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Thread started 02/18/05 1:06pm

DrWood

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New Brian McKnight song

"Everytime You Go Away" Sounds too much like "Purple Rain." The chord structure, the string orchestration & guitar solo. Even the line "I know I'm being a little self-centered, but IIII....." ripoff from 'If I Was Your Girlfriend!" Anyone else notice this?
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Reply #1 posted 02/18/05 3:23pm

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DrWood said:

"Everytime You Go Away" Sounds too much like "Purple Rain." The chord structure, the string orchestration & guitar solo. Even the line "I know I'm being a little self-centered, but IIII....." ripoff from 'If I Was Your Girlfriend!" Anyone else notice this?



I was about to post this!

To me it sound like "Purple Rain" mixed with any song by that horrid group Jagged Edge.

Surprisingly it's not the worst song he released in his carreer.
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Reply #2 posted 02/18/05 5:41pm

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DrWood said:

"Everytime You Go Away" Sounds too much like "Purple Rain." The chord structure, the string orchestration & guitar solo. Even the line "I know I'm being a little self-centered, but IIII....." ripoff from 'If I Was Your Girlfriend!" Anyone else notice this?

When it get's this close and obvious...you gotta call it "tribute". I hope that was the intent.
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Reply #3 posted 02/18/05 6:05pm

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Tribute? I'm sure Meshell Ndgeocello feels the same way about Brian ripping off her song!!
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Reply #4 posted 02/18/05 6:09pm

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If it's Brian McKnight, to me it sounds like every sad piece of drivel he's ever written, the same mid-tempo bland slow love song, it's like watching dead fish float. I'll pass.
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Reply #5 posted 02/18/05 8:54pm

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Is this the song that rips off the melody of Jagged Edge's "Let's Get MArried"?

Brian has become such a fraud and lazy. His first album was great, second was nice-- but each year he just got lazier. In a Vibe article back around 97, he all but admitted he has a formula and he sticks with it to sell records.
I understad song writers have a style, but c'mon.


He stole Me'shell's song and it went to number one; on one cd-- Superhero-- I believe, he swiped the Linn drum beat to sound like Prince; now he's ripping off JE.
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Reply #6 posted 02/18/05 9:25pm

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I know I shouldn't be this way, but I can't stand dude. I just don't like him. He's talented, he writes and plays; he has a good voice...but I don't like him. Something seems really phony about him. Most of his music bores me to tears and to be honest, I'm just not feeling anything he does - for no real reason. Yeah, I know its wrong but...that's how I feel about him.
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Reply #7 posted 02/18/05 9:31pm

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Funny, cause when he was on Jay Leno performing this song he was up there with a guitar. Looking like someone else we know Hummmm?
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Reply #8 posted 02/18/05 11:41pm

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why is his music so r&b oriented? he had a great jazz feel his first album..



aint like it used to be.. thats for sure
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Reply #9 posted 02/19/05 8:04pm

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twink69 said:

Tribute? I'm sure Meshell Ndgeocello feels the same way about Brian ripping off her song!!

a bit of kind sarcasm

I'm with musicman "His first album was great, second was nice-- but each year he just got lazier."

I actually think that Brian is pretty talented. Fear has a way of paralyzing some into these safe places. He's been playing it really safe. It takes all kinds. He seems to be one of those "safe" guys. Like if he weren't a musician he'd be an accountant or something along those lines.

He doesn't annoy me as much as he does you guys...but it is annoying to see one with the potential to do so much more, doing so much less.
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Reply #10 posted 02/20/05 12:58am

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BlaqueKnight said:

I know I shouldn't be this way, but I can't stand dude. I just don't like him. He's talented, he writes and plays; he has a good voice...but I don't like him. Something seems really phony about him. Most of his music bores me to tears and to be honest, I'm just not feeling anything he does - for no real reason. Yeah, I know its wrong but...that's how I feel about him.


It's not wrong at all. Brian is a fucking HACK. He started off great w/ the first album - decent/good songs, great voice, interesting...

Then he fell into this adult contemporary, lazy ass, "safe to play in your cubicle" type shit. He's so fucking BORING! Doesn't use his voice for good, just shows up to do lazy renditions on award shows bored

I read an interview once where he said he has a "formula" for making hit records... that he's "simplified it" b/c the audience can't handle challenging material neutral I guess that's true if all you care about is sales, charts & doing Christmas albums but I lost ALL respect I once had for him as an artist. He gave up years ago... so fuck him disbelief
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Reply #11 posted 02/20/05 12:59am

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anon said:

twink69 said:

Tribute? I'm sure Meshell Ndgeocello feels the same way about Brian ripping off her song!!

a bit of kind sarcasm

I'm with musicman "His first album was great, second was nice-- but each year he just got lazier."

I actually think that Brian is pretty talented. Fear has a way of paralyzing some into these safe places. He's been playing it really safe. It takes all kinds. He seems to be one of those "safe" guys. Like if he weren't a musician he'd be an accountant or something along those lines.

He doesn't annoy me as much as he does you guys...but it is annoying to see one with the potential to do so much more, doing so much less.


It's not fear, it's him being uninterested in being better. He's content to do drivel, read the post above. I wish I had that article...
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Reply #12 posted 02/20/05 1:37pm

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CalhounSq said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I know I shouldn't be this way, but I can't stand dude. I just don't like him. He's talented, he writes and plays; he has a good voice...but I don't like him. Something seems really phony about him. Most of his music bores me to tears and to be honest, I'm just not feeling anything he does - for no real reason. Yeah, I know its wrong but...that's how I feel about him.


It's not wrong at all. Brian is a fucking HACK. He started off great w/ the first album - decent/good songs, great voice, interesting...

Then he fell into this adult contemporary, lazy ass, "safe to play in your cubicle" type shit. He's so fucking BORING! Doesn't use his voice for good, just shows up to do lazy renditions on award shows bored

I read an interview once where he said he has a "formula" for making hit records... that he's "simplified it" b/c the audience can't handle challenging material neutral I guess that's true if all you care about is sales, charts & doing Christmas albums but I lost ALL respect I once had for him as an artist. He gave up years ago... so fuck him disbelief

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Co-Sign. I just can't figure out why he has not be sued. His music is not a tribute to other artist but out and out stealing.
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Reply #13 posted 02/20/05 3:08pm

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I hate this damn song
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Reply #14 posted 02/20/05 5:42pm

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laurarichardson said:

CalhounSq said:



It's not wrong at all. Brian is a fucking HACK. He started off great w/ the first album - decent/good songs, great voice, interesting...

Then he fell into this adult contemporary, lazy ass, "safe to play in your cubicle" type shit. He's so fucking BORING! Doesn't use his voice for good, just shows up to do lazy renditions on award shows bored

I read an interview once where he said he has a "formula" for making hit records... that he's "simplified it" b/c the audience can't handle challenging material neutral I guess that's true if all you care about is sales, charts & doing Christmas albums but I lost ALL respect I once had for him as an artist. He gave up years ago... so fuck him disbelief

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Co-Sign. I just can't figure out why he has not be sued. His music is not a tribute to other artist but out and out stealing.

lol Dude sucks, and I'm tired of seeing his face on EVERY awards show on BET.
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Reply #15 posted 02/20/05 9:20pm

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CalhounSq said:

anon said:


a bit of kind sarcasm

I'm with musicman "His first album was great, second was nice-- but each year he just got lazier."

I actually think that Brian is pretty talented. Fear has a way of paralyzing some into these safe places. He's been playing it really safe. It takes all kinds. He seems to be one of those "safe" guys. Like if he weren't a musician he'd be an accountant or something along those lines.

He doesn't annoy me as much as he does you guys...but it is annoying to see one with the potential to do so much more, doing so much less.


It's not fear, it's him being uninterested in being better. He's content to do drivel, read the post above. I wish I had that article...



I will look for the article. I'm sure it's out there.
If that is in fact true...admitting to a formula, then that is kinda lame.
But his formula works like the boy band formula works. They're easy and no risk.

In a way...he's like a boy band wanna be (and he did do that thing with the ex boy band guy). That formula plays on hormones and puberty. His plays on phase 2. Actually thats exactly what he banks on...he's the wedding singer that lucked up. His songs will always play at the weddings.

You guys are so hard on him that I'm starting to feel a little empathy. He's not that bad.

It's possible that he's lazy. But I would tend to think that it's fear. He's never really taken risk. Maybe he's just not that type. Also that comment "....simplified it" b/c the audience can't handle challenging material..." Maybe that's how he justifies his inability/fear to challenge himself. But those are the demons he will face in the dark.

Either way...There's room for all kinds.

Let the wedding singer be.
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Reply #16 posted 02/20/05 11:35pm

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anon said:

CalhounSq said:



It's not fear, it's him being uninterested in being better. He's content to do drivel, read the post above. I wish I had that article...



I will look for the article. I'm sure it's out there.
If that is in fact true...admitting to a formula, then that is kinda lame.
But his formula works like the boy band formula works. They're easy and no risk.

In a way...he's like a boy band wanna be (and he did do that thing with the ex boy band guy). That formula plays on hormones and puberty. His plays on phase 2. Actually thats exactly what he banks on...he's the wedding singer that lucked up. His songs will always play at the weddings.

You guys are so hard on him that I'm starting to feel a little empathy. He's not that bad.

It's possible that he's lazy. But I would tend to think that it's fear. He's never really taken risk. Maybe he's just not that type. Also that comment "....simplified it" b/c the audience can't handle challenging material..." Maybe that's how he justifies his inability/fear to challenge himself. But those are the demons he will face in the dark.

Either way...There's room for all kinds.

Let the wedding singer be.
[Edited 2/20/05 21:22pm]


The article is out there, I think it was in Vibe some years ago. But that's just the point - he has a very nice voice, he just doesn't use it for anything that's any good. And THAT's a damn shame neutral
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Reply #17 posted 02/21/05 12:28am

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CalhounSq said:

anon said:




I will look for the article. I'm sure it's out there.
If that is in fact true...admitting to a formula, then that is kinda lame.
But his formula works like the boy band formula works. They're easy and no risk.

In a way...he's like a boy band wanna be (and he did do that thing with the ex boy band guy). That formula plays on hormones and puberty. His plays on phase 2. Actually thats exactly what he banks on...he's the wedding singer that lucked up. His songs will always play at the weddings.

You guys are so hard on him that I'm starting to feel a little empathy. He's not that bad.

It's possible that he's lazy. But I would tend to think that it's fear. He's never really taken risk. Maybe he's just not that type. Also that comment "....simplified it" b/c the audience can't handle challenging material..." Maybe that's how he justifies his inability/fear to challenge himself. But those are the demons he will face in the dark.

Either way...There's room for all kinds.

Let the wedding singer be.
[Edited 2/20/05 21:22pm]


The article is out there, I think it was in Vibe some years ago. But that's just the point - he has a very nice voice, he just doesn't use it for anything that's any good. And THAT's a damn shame neutral


You guys got me listening to the wedding singer. I forgot how much I actually like his voice. Also I didn't realize I had so much of his stuff. Good thing for anonymity.

Found an article. Is this it?:
http://launch.yahoo.com/r...w/12057783

I'd never actually read anything about him.
It's not that bad. It makes me appreciate him more in some ways.

That fantasy-booth thing kinda weirded me out, though. A token booth...ok.
A telephone booth...that's fine too. But fantasy...

I was half kidding about the boy band thing but I'm starting to think that may be dead on.

His voice is sexy...but you don't want to hear him talk about sex. Maybe we should all be thankful that he's doing the wedding song thing and leave well enough alone.

Man! I wish I hadn't read that booth part...that visual's gonna last for a good month.
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Reply #18 posted 02/21/05 12:30am

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anon said:

CalhounSq said:



The article is out there, I think it was in Vibe some years ago. But that's just the point - he has a very nice voice, he just doesn't use it for anything that's any good. And THAT's a damn shame neutral


You guys got me listening to the wedding singer. I forgot how much I actually like his voice. Also I didn't realize I had so much of his stuff. Good thing for anonymity.

Found an article. Is this it?:
http://launch.yahoo.com/r...w/12057783

I'd never actually read anything about him.
It's not that bad. It makes me appreciate him more in some ways.

That fantasy-booth thing kinda weirded me out, though. A token booth...ok.
A telephone booth...that's fine too. But fantasy...

I was half kidding about the boy band thing but I'm starting to think that may be dead on.

His voice is sexy...but you don't want to hear him talk about sex. Maybe we should all be thankful that he's doing the wedding song thing and leave well enough alone.

Man! I wish I hadn't read that booth part...that visual's gonna last for a good month.


Let me just start by saying that picture is HORRIBLE whofarted He is SUCH a fucking meathead!! shake
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Reply #19 posted 02/21/05 4:49am

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Brian is talented,no doubt,but I find him to be really,really boring.He specializes in slow R&B/adult contemporary and I guess the ladies love him,but his music is a snoozefest imo.And why does he have to keep ripping off Prince? A few years ago,he came out with a song that was a blatant rip-off of "Adore" or "Scandalous"....same music,and he was singing in a Prince-like falsetto.I actually felt embarrassed for him when I heard this song.
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Reply #20 posted 02/21/05 11:01am

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CalhounSq said:

anon said:



You guys got me listening to the wedding singer. I forgot how much I actually like his voice. Also I didn't realize I had so much of his stuff. Good thing for anonymity.

Found an article. Is this it?:
http://launch.yahoo.com/r...w/12057783

I'd never actually read anything about him.
It's not that bad. It makes me appreciate him more in some ways.

That fantasy-booth thing kinda weirded me out, though. A token booth...ok.
A telephone booth...that's fine too. But fantasy...

I was half kidding about the boy band thing but I'm starting to think that may be dead on.

His voice is sexy...but you don't want to hear him talk about sex. Maybe we should all be thankful that he's doing the wedding song thing and leave well enough alone.

Man! I wish I hadn't read that booth part...that visual's gonna last for a good month.


Let me just start by saying that picture is HORRIBLE whofarted He is SUCH a fucking meathead!! shake


I hate it when I laugh at dumb remarks like that

DavidEye said:


Brian is talented,no doubt,but I find him to be really,really boring.He specializes in slow R&B/adult contemporary and I guess the ladies love him,but his music is a snoozefest imo.And why does he have to keep ripping off Prince? A few years ago,he came out with a song that was a blatant rip-off of "Adore" or "Scandalous"....same music,and he was singing in a Prince-like falsetto.I actually felt embarrassed for him when I heard this song.


I am with you both on this one. Same remark to the pic...and same response to that song. Couldn't listen to it.

As far as the ladies loving him. I don't. Like, I wouldn't want to see him in concert or anything. I'm fine with the cds. I do love the quality of his voice however. As far as the personal thing...the way it's seeming that he's petty and sleazy and all those qualities that I REALLY dislike. This is the reason that I make a point to avoid the gossip...especially if I like an artist. It sucks when the personal life starts to discolor the art.

True, when you hear so much of another artist in his work...it makes you wonder. Is this just that he honestly subconsciously picks up the artists he admires...or is it blatant. I like to believe the former. I think if I thought other, it would be hard to enjoy the song.

Now don't refute that 'cause I know the truth...let me keep my little delusion here.
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Reply #21 posted 02/21/05 5:05pm

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I know I shouldn't be this way, but I can't stand dude. I just don't like him. He's talented, he writes and plays; he has a good voice...but I don't like him. Something seems really phony about him. Most of his music bores me to tears and to be honest, I'm just not feeling anything he does - for no real reason. Yeah, I know its wrong but...that's how I feel about him.

u took the words out of my mouth. I have never liked him or anything that has come out of his mouth sad
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