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Reply #30 posted 02/06/05 2:39pm

VoicesCarry

Brian Wilson thought the best pop song ever was Be My Baby, by The Ronettes. I think because it's been a prototype for so much, it deserves a shot at #1 biggrin
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Reply #31 posted 02/06/05 2:42pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Brian Wilson thought the best pop song ever was Be My Baby, by The Ronettes. I think because it's been a prototype for so much, it deserves a shot at #1 biggrin

I love that song so much! It makes me cry just about everytime I hear it. So beautiful. There was a great deal of similarity between the production of the Beach Boys songs and any of Phil Spector's tunes. I wish there was even a speck of that around today. sad
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Reply #32 posted 02/06/05 2:43pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

VoicesCarry said:

Brian Wilson thought the best pop song ever was Be My Baby, by The Ronettes. I think because it's been a prototype for so much, it deserves a shot at #1 biggrin

I love that song so much! It makes me cry just about everytime I hear it. So beautiful. There was a great deal of similarity between the production of the Beach Boys songs and any of Phil Spector's tunes. I wish there was even a speck of that around today. sad


I know sad sad Brian always had mucho respect for Spector's production capabilities, and I think there were a lot of wall of sound influences in the BB's music.
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Reply #33 posted 02/06/05 2:52pm

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Did brian ever put together such a dissonant, nightmarish collage as the beatles did on "Tomorrow never knows" (which was largely the work of Paul McCartney)

Actually I believe John Lennon rode herd on that tune.

"My first psychedelic song."

~John Lennon

Great piece in any case.

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Reply #34 posted 02/06/05 4:36pm

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theAudience said:

jacktheimprovident said:

Did brian ever put together such a dissonant, nightmarish collage as the beatles did on "Tomorrow never knows" (which was largely the work of Paul McCartney)

Actually I believe John Lennon rode herd on that tune.

"My first psychedelic song."

~John Lennon

Great piece in any case.

tA

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That's definitely a Lennon composition.
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Reply #35 posted 02/06/05 4:39pm

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I honestly prefer the version done by this man:-




Remember the black and white video? That was on everywhere when I was small.....
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Reply #36 posted 02/06/05 4:41pm

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theAudience said:

jacktheimprovident said:

Did brian ever put together such a dissonant, nightmarish collage as the beatles did on "Tomorrow never knows" (which was largely the work of Paul McCartney)

Actually I believe John Lennon rode herd on that tune.

"My first psychedelic song."

~John Lennon

Great piece in any case.

tA

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Well perhaps I'm misinformed, but I remember my history of rock n roll professor mentioning that the tape loops were recorded and mixed together by paul mccartney, and that the conception of the song was lennon
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Reply #37 posted 02/06/05 4:50pm

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I'll have to check my Beatles books (God that makes me sound like a nerd), but to my recollection, this was all very much a Lennon project. I know the song has a loop of Paul laughing that was sped up to sound like a seagull. I'd give more credit to George Martin than Paul McCartney actually. He was the one that taught them all of the studio tricks to use.
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Reply #38 posted 02/06/05 5:15pm

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thesexofit said:

I honestly prefer the version done by this man:-




Remember the black and white video? That was on everywhere when I was small.....

This is one of those instances where I refuse to believe you're being real.
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Reply #39 posted 02/06/05 5:23pm

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I like the theremine (spelling ?!) in it
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Reply #40 posted 02/06/05 5:24pm

VoicesCarry

RipHer2Shreds said:

thesexofit said:

I honestly prefer the version done by this man:-




Remember the black and white video? That was on everywhere when I was small.....

This is one of those instances where I refuse to believe you're being real.


Now, now. Even Marky Mark admitted it in Good Vibrations - "morons make me wealthy". wink

/don't really mean it, but that line seemed too presaging to ignore in this case
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Reply #41 posted 02/06/05 5:29pm

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VoicesCarry said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


This is one of those instances where I refuse to believe you're being real.


Now, now. Even Marky Mark admitted it in Good Vibrations - "morons make me wealthy". wink

/don't really mean it, but that line seemed too presaging to ignore in this case
[Edited 2/6/05 17:25pm]


Hey, song is awesome....."it's sucha good vibration, such a sweeeeet sensation"

Good workout song too....."drug free so put the crack up" (?)
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Reply #42 posted 02/06/05 5:36pm

VoicesCarry

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Hey, song is awesome....."it's sucha good vibration, such a sweeeeet sensation"

Good workout song too....."drug free so put the crack up" (?)


The only good thing in there is the Loleatta Holloway sample.
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Reply #43 posted 02/06/05 5:38pm

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VoicesCarry said:

thesexofit said:



Hey, song is awesome....."it's sucha good vibration, such a sweeeeet sensation"

Good workout song too....."drug free so put the crack up" (?)


The only good thing in there is the Loleatta Holloway sample.


People like "the power" by Snap! and "everybody dance now" by C and c music factory, yet people rag on this?.....
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Reply #44 posted 02/06/05 5:47pm

goat2004

A very good pop song..
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Reply #45 posted 02/06/05 5:49pm

VoicesCarry

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People like "the power" by Snap! and "everybody dance now" by C and c music factory, yet people rag on this?.....


lol

I'm not a huge fan of those, either. You got the same formula that was used in Good Vibrations, only repeated with Martha Wash, and so on.

These songs just kind of....sit there. Don't do anything for me at all.
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Reply #46 posted 02/06/05 10:51pm

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jacktheimprovident said:

Well perhaps I'm misinformed, but I remember my history of rock n roll professor mentioning that the tape loops were recorded and mixed together by paul mccartney, and that the conception of the song was lennon

Looks like the production might have been more of a team effort.

From someone who'd know...

"They discovered Stockhausen for themselves. I guess we talked a lot about things and it's very difficult to put your finger on who discovered what. "Tomorrow Never Knows" though ... they'd bought themselves tape-recorders and they'd started playing with them in their own homes ... I think Paul discovered it first ... they got into making little loops for themselves. On any tape recorder, if you cover the erase head and put on a loop of tape, you can put on a sound and if you switch it off after a few seconds it keeps going round and round, overdubbing itself. You can build up a funny whirling kind of sound, and by playing that at various speeds they got all these weird sounds. For "Tomorrow Never Knows" they all went away and made loops at various speeds, and brought them to me. I'd play them on a machine, keep some and discard others, and we eventually ended up with eight loops of different sounds. We'd already laid down a basic track of John's voice, and the drums, and bass I think, and we'd already put John's voice through a Leslie speaker, because he'd said to me "I want my voice to sound as though it is coming from a hill top in Tibet" - obviously he was hung up on the Tibetan Book of the Dead. He wanted a voice in which you could hear the words, but it had to have an ethereal effect, so I put it through the Leslie and he was knocked out with it. Then putting all these loops on, we got eight tape machines and put one loop on each, and I fed each of those machines into the control desk, so that by raising any of the faders at any moment you could bring up the sound of any one particular loop. We already had the rhythm track and the voice, so then we did a mix, and brought up any loop we fancied at any particular time. That's how we got that effect."

~Sir George Martin (Melody Maker - 1971)


Special treat: http://www.beatlemania.ca...rknows.htm


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Reply #47 posted 02/06/05 11:10pm

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Great song..


but no
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