WildheartXXX said:

I know the circumstances, but it doesn't make the album seem any less shitty. Bob Dylan's "John Wesley Harding" was recorded under very similar circumstances (minus the heroin), and it's a classic. But I do agree with you that sound of the album is great. It rocks like a beast. It's just unfortunate that nobody came with any real songs.

And naturally Jimmy Page says it's his best album. I think it's required that all musicians praise their shitty albums and claim them amoung their faves so that the record buying audience thinks they missed something, and tries to convince themselves that the record is as great as the artist says it is. I'm sure Mick Jagger thought "Emotional Rescue" was a masterpiece as well.
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minneapolisgenius said:

NO WAY IN HELL. I mean, it's not far from it. It is the second worst, but I think "In Through the Out Door" beats "Presence." With the exception of "Carouselambra" the songs are much stronger IMHO (to quote mistermaxxx). "All My Love," "I'm Gonna Crawl," "In the Evening."

I even dig "Hot Dog," although I did notice something about it. Jimmy Page could solo like a mutha in all forms of music (delta blues, hard blues rock, jazzy-shit, country-ish shit, metallic shit, reggae, etc). But when it comes to Bakersfield country, Merle Haggard and Buck Owens would laugh him out of the studio. It would've sounded better though had he played it on a Tele. That song is an instance where I think Plant outperforms Page.

JACKAL said:

I never said my list was supposed to be an anthology. It's a double CD set for road trips. I don't need to listen to Zeppelin chronologically. I know what their progression was, and I like to mix it up.

The footage that they would show on VH1 Classic, is either the crappy "video" of "Over The Hills and Far Away" which was made from bootleg video footage from fans(and is so poorly put together that it's unwatchable), possibly "Whole Lotta Love" (same thing), and maybe some footage from The Song Remains The Same. The majority of DVD footage is made up of film and video that had never been seen by anyone until Page dug it all up, cleaned it up, and compiled it all for the 2 DVD set. It's pretty amazing. There's the majority of their Royal Albert Hall 1970 concert on there, some rare TV appearances from '69 in Paris and Denmark, (before anyone knew who they were) Madison Square Garden '73, Earls Court '75, and Knebworth. Plus some interviews from back in the day.

So anyway, none of that footage is ever shown on VH1 because they don't have the rights to use it so far.

JACKAL said:

You dig "Hot Dog"?!



I do love "In The Evening" and "All My Love" though.

minneapolisgenius said:

Note the title of the thread. Anthology.

If only I knew someone with the DVD.

And yes, that shit on VH1 is pretty unwatchable.
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minneapolisgenius said:

Yeah, I dig "Hot Dog." I like that Bakersfield style of music.

"And if I ever find that girl I know one thing for sure
I'm gonna give her something like she never had before"

JACKAL said:

Was that the title of the thread? My eyes didn't read past "Led Zeppelin..."

and I MAY be able to send something to you.
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JACKAL said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Do you come with it?

JACKAL said:

Hmmm, how did I know that's what you'd ask?

Only if you pay for postage.

minneapolisgenius said:

Because you know me too well. And that can be arranged.

PS. I think I like having you in a US time zone.

JACKAL said:

Well, the postage is about to go up, (WAY up) because I leave for Europe again on Wednesday.

minneapolisgenius said:

Grrr. That's probably a little too rich for my blood.

JACKAL said:

You need shooting.

I was at the cd store today, and yes, the Led Zep early days, latter days was for sale (11 euros).. Since I own every Zep album, I'm not going to buy it (I hate greatest hits compilations)..
But I found Robert Plant's Dreamland for only 4 euros (3.5 dollars)



behold, my anthology

1. Babe, I'm gonna leave you
2. Dazed and Confused
3. Communication Breakdown
4. How many more times
5. Whole lotta love
6. Thank You
7. Heartbreaker
8. Immigrant Song
9. Since I've been loving you
10. Gallows Pole
11. Tangerine
12. That's the way
13. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp


1. Black Dog
2. Rock and Roll
3. The Battle of Evermore
4. Stairway to Heaven
5. Misty Mountain Hop
6. Going to California
7. The Rain Song
8. Over the Hills and far away
9. The Crunge
10. No Quarter
11. In my time of dying
12. Trampled under foot
13. Kashmir


1. Down by the seaside
2. Ten years gone
3. Boogie with stu
4. Black country woman
5. Achilles last stand
6. Fool in the rain
7. All of my love
8. in the Evening
9. Poor Tom
10. Moby Dick, live

JACKAL said:

Page was too busy scoring heroin from across the street that's why his playing is all over the place. Listen to South Bound Suarez, he hardly keeps the solo together on that track but it has its own charm. I think ITTOD is stronger than Presence songwise i just think the production sucks. You can hardly hear Plant on in The Evening and Carouselambra.

Eraserhead said:

No What Is and What Should Never Be, Sick Again and When The Levee Breaks!! They're essential!

Cloudbuster said:

WildheartXXX said:

I think I forgot "When the Levee Breaks" on mine.

Cloudbuster said:

I don't get it.

WildheartXXX said:

I wish they would have fixed ITTOD when they remastered it. They should have remixed it as well, I suppose. I think it's a tad bit too reliant on keyboards as well, but the songs are much stronger.

minneapolisgenius said:

I think that may be the absolute greatest Led Zeppelin song of all-time. I think it's their definitive song. It's no secret that a lot of their songs were stolen blues songs, as is this one. So, I think it's fitting, that this is the one that, to me, best defines their sound. If someone asked me, "What does Led Zeppelin sound like," this is what I would play for them.

JACKAL said:

I think in terms of showing off the band at their best Levee is their best song. It's so freakin heavy!

minneapolisgenius said:

Just want to add...I love most of their live stuff but some of it is simply ok. Stairway to Heaven & Rock n Roll imo sucks live (compared to the studio version), and even though I love the Earls Court version of In My Time of Dying...Pagey's playing on the PG version is simply jaw dropping. His guitar sounds is so friggin awesome on that song. That song is one of the reasons I love him and Zep so much.

However the 2 disc compilation you made has a GREAT selection of tunes. Nice variation of all of their styles...they were far from JUST a hard rock band.
...which brings me to The Crunge. What a funky tune. Jackal needs to stop foaming at the mouth and get with this song. "Has anyone seen the bridge?" Its in the vein of Out On The Tiles & Trampled Underfoot. It is a tune that I remember thinking WTF? when I 1st heard it...but it grew on me quickly.

Pagey said:

Yeah, In My Time Of Dying is awesome either way. The EC version though has some great visuals to go with it, and it ends up being the most watched part off both of the DVDs for me.

"...they were far from JUST a hard rock band."

That about sums it up. So many different layers.

I've just been getting into Out On The Tiles again recently. And ever since I've gotten the DVD, I like the live EC version of Trampled Underfoot better than the studio version. That and IMTOD on there, it just blows my mind every time. The look as though they are seriously possessed. It's actually creepy. (but in a good way)

Or it could be how high they all were.

WildheartXXX said:

Plant wailing on the harmonica, also. Dig it.

Pagey said:

I don't hate "The Crunge." I just don't think it's very good. It's a very mediocre attempt at a James Brown song, "Sex Machine" to be specific. I'll stick with the Godfather.

JACKAL said:

For hating ALS, TSRTS & NQ.

Cloudbuster said:

He's rabid you know.

minneapolisgenius said: