missfee said: the only thing that can save MJ's career is if he takes a step further than what prince did:
change his name, and his identity and record under it. [Edited 12/29/04 9:56am] ROTFL. love is a fate resigned memories mar my mind love it is a fate resigned Over futile odds and laughed at by the Gods and now the final frame Love is a losing game | |
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LEGO THRILLER (watch it here) Someone has done a shot-by-shot recreation of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video using Legos. [Edited 12/29/04 11:00am] | |
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Forget his career. He needs to work on MJ the man first. He's obviously got serious issues. | |
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EverlastingNow said: A reunion tour with his brothers without charging $1000 for tickets. He could perform Jacksons songs and solo material NO LIP SYNCING and remind everyone why we loved him to begin with. I seen the Victory and Bad tours and he was awesome and it was great seeing him perform before his live performance became Memorex.
I heard a rumor that,just before the recent molestation charges surfaced last year, a tour promoter (ClearChannel?) offered Michael and his brothers a STAGGERING sum of money to launch an extensive reunion tour.But of course,MJ's latest problems forced the promoter to cancel the deal. | |
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whodknee said: Forget his career. He needs to work on MJ the man first. He's obviously got serious issues.
Very good point. | |
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DavidEye said: EverlastingNow said: A reunion tour with his brothers without charging $1000 for tickets. He could perform Jacksons songs and solo material NO LIP SYNCING and remind everyone why we loved him to begin with. I seen the Victory and Bad tours and he was awesome and it was great seeing him perform before his live performance became Memorex.
I heard a rumor that,just before the recent molestation charges surfaced last year, a tour promoter (ClearChannel?) offered Michael and his brothers a STAGGERING sum of money to launch an extensive reunion tour.But of course,MJ's latest problems forced the promoter to cancel the deal. i remember Jermaine on Larry King saying they were going to tour and Larry was like "even Michael?" and Jermaine replied, "yes, even Micheal." | |
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jayaredee said: DavidEye said: I heard a rumor that,just before the recent molestation charges surfaced last year, a tour promoter (ClearChannel?) offered Michael and his brothers a STAGGERING sum of money to launch an extensive reunion tour.But of course,MJ's latest problems forced the promoter to cancel the deal. i remember Jermaine on Larry King saying they were going to tour and Larry was like "even Michael?" and Jermaine replied, "yes, even Micheal." but was this before or after the latest charges? | |
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DavidEye said: jayaredee said: i remember Jermaine on Larry King saying they were going to tour and Larry was like "even Michael?" and Jermaine replied, "yes, even Micheal." but was this before or after the latest charges? Oh of course they were before the charges. Nothing came of MJ after those charges except Sony hurrying to fulfill the contract before his trial ends | |
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jayaredee said: DavidEye said: but was this before or after the latest charges? Oh of course they were before the charges. Nothing came of MJ after those charges except Sony hurrying to fulfill the contract before his trial ends Looks like Michael screwed things up for him and his brothers Lord knows they all could have used that money | |
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DavidEye said: I really don't think that anything can "save" Mike's career at this point.Even if he gets acquitted,too much damage has already been done.His image has been destroyed and for the most part,it's his own fault.Even if he makes a great album,let's be honest,it can't possibly make people forget his eccentric behavior,that crazy and ill-advised documentary,the multiple surgeries,and every other MJ scandal from recent years.Fortunately for him,he still has a loyal,sizable fanbase around the world,but it's not enough to save his career.
But he's still selling tons of albums around the world each week so how does his career need saving? There's a whole world outside of America, you know? I honestly think that if he's found innocent of child molestation then the majority of the public will quickly move on. He's been considered an eccentric weirdo for the past two decades and he's still managed to release three albums that have each topped 20m in that time. You forget that a lot of folk like their artists to be a bit strange. | |
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namepeace said: Like his contemporaries, I don't think he'll ever sell original recordings in large numbers stateside ever again. Those days are over. But I am hoping that the evidence will justify the biggest release he could bring about in 2005: his own. From state custody.
I hope so, too. | |
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There are plenty of ways to save his career, only i'm afraid he is too far gone to make it happen. I don't think he can imagine recording an album on an not-stellar budget, expecting not-stellar sales, making under-1million$$-videos, working his ass off to get some of his stage presence back; You know, working, with a realistic outlook and budget.
If the guy had the sense to scale back, work out some creative ideas (stictly music, please), invite one or two (co-)producers who would keep an eye on things, select twelve tracks, and work on them for 6 months. He would make a reasonable profit on his die-hard fanbase alone, and if he has two or three growers à la Butterflies on there that would do well on radio, plus some critical acclaim, and you could have a genuine success again. But someone else put it correctly above: he first needs a decent ass-wooping and maaajor reality check. Because people will forgive the eccentricies (sp?), but he's not eccentric, he's just waay out of it. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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1. Old face back? - Let's deal with some more realistic choices shall we?
Here it goes: (in no paticular order) 1. Michael lends tremendous support to the 50,000 plus victim of the devasting eathquake/tidal Wide in southern Asia. 2. Michael admits he was wrong for sleeping with children (different from doing anything of a sexual nauture) and publicaly admits himself into some type of mental institution (if he's innocent, this is still a good PR move) 3. Michael releases an artistically Musicology like album and tops the charts like in his glory days. (this is the least likely thing to happen - unfortunately. 4. If the children finally come clean (assuming Micheal didn't do anything wrong) and admit their parents made them lie so they could get paid. 5. Invite black children to his house, instead of white children. (ok, I'm just being funny - not trying to offend anyone) That's it! Either two, or three of those actions need to happen. Basically, he needs an image makeover (like Kobe Bryant, but a more serious). | |
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goat2004 said: 5. Invite black children to his house, instead of white children. (ok, I'm just being funny - not trying to offend anyone)
I hope that really was a joke as he invites black children to Neverland all the time. | |
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Mike is pretty much screwed his career to the point of no return, at least stateside. I don't know how well a J%/Jackson reunion tour whould work out. I also heard he does like tour because he claims that he loses 5 pounds after each shaw. "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
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Look here for MJ's career I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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jayaredee said: Is that he tour, assuming he's innocent.
I mean, ive seen Cher, Madonna, Prince live. I can't die without seeing MJ live. It is not gonna happen, and if it does happen... It wont be live.... but a playbackshow!. the beautiful ones, you always seem to loose | |
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CinisterCee said: Someone has done a shot-by-shot recreation of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video using Legos.
That was the cheapest piece of crap I've ever seen! I LOVED it!!! | |
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CinisterCee said: LEGO THRILLER (watch it here) Someone has done a shot-by-shot recreation of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video using Legos. [Edited 12/29/04 11:00am] FUNNIEST SHIT EVER!! I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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What I wish he would do and what he should have done a long time ago is that he stops lip synching. Just take the microphone and SING, prove us that you can still do it. Also what I think would be cool if he showed off more beat boxing, do an a cappella... because that's some hot stuff. He can't play an instrument and he basically creates his music vocally so why not showing us what he does best. I for one would be much thrilled to see a nice, intimate live performance by him than see an exhausted 46 year old man lip synching and trying to move like a 20 year old kid. | |
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I wish he would put on some jeans and a tshirt and do a ONA-style tour. He really can sing, he's got a great catalog, he can play piano perfectly well, I bet he knows how to play guitar passably, he can take a small band. . .
Or just dance! He's a fucking beautiful dancer. . .start a little dance company and take it on tour. It'd sell out everywhere, 'cause he's MJ, and he could focus on the dance. I think that the reason he lip-synchs on stage is that he cares more about good dancing than good singing. So dance, already! | |
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whodknee said: Forget his career. He needs to work on MJ the man first. He's obviously got serious issues.
Michael has 2 parents, 5 brothers and 3 sisters to help him deal with his problems. | |
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Krytonite said: whodknee said: Forget his career. He needs to work on MJ the man first. He's obviously got serious issues.
Michael has 2 parents, 5 brothers and 3 sisters to help him deal with his problems. One Problem.... All of their last names are JACKSON!!! I don't think they can help him any more than they could help themselves, They're all screwed up, they need some Dr. Phil or somethin'. Every time I watch the other people news, I see a false picture of myself, another one of u. They try 2 tell us what we want, what 2 believe. Didn't that happen in the Garden, when somebody spoke 2 Eve? But I'm willin'.... | |
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Hell, I'm surprised this place hasn't been changed to MJ.org anyway.
"independent and unofficial MJ fan conspiracy theory site" | |
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bodank35 said: Krytonite said: Michael has 2 parents, 5 brothers and 3 sisters to help him deal with his problems. One Problem.... All of their last names are JACKSON!!! I don't think they can help him any more than they could help themselves, They're all screwed up, they need some Dr. Phil or somethin'. Please explain. I'm dying to know why Michael's parents, brothers and sisters are screwed up. It's their fault what has happened to Michael? | |
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CinisterCee said: LEGO THRILLER (watch it here) Someone has done a shot-by-shot recreation of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video using Legos. this is A.W.E.S.O.M.E. !!! Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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subhuman09 said: Hell, I'm surprised this place hasn't been changed to MJ.org anyway.
"independent and unofficial MJ fan conspiracy theory site" | |
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tackam said: I wish he would put on some jeans and a tshirt and do a ONA-style tour. He really can sing, he's got a great catalog, he can play piano perfectly well, I bet he knows how to play guitar passably, he can take a small band. . .
Or just dance! He's a fucking beautiful dancer. . .start a little dance company and take it on tour. It'd sell out everywhere, 'cause he's MJ, and he could focus on the dance. I think that the reason he lip-synchs on stage is that he cares more about good dancing than good singing. So dance, already! That would be brilliant. Alas, it won't come to pass. | |
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whodknee said: Forget his career. He needs to work on MJ the man first. He's obviously got serious issues.
Cosign!!!!! "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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jayaredee said: ...I can't die without seeing MJ live.
I could. Woulda been cool to have seen him back in his Off the Wall/Thriller days, but I'm not interested anymore. "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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