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Thread started 12/18/04 10:50pm

pennylover

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Why is Frankie Beverly So Underrated?

I was just listening 2 Jill Scott’s Family Reunion. I love the hell out of this song, anyways she mentions Frankie Beverly. I love Frankie Beverly. Why is he so underrated? Has he ever won a Grammy? eek
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Reply #1 posted 12/18/04 11:15pm

NWF

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pennylover said:

I was just listening 2 Jill Scott’s Family Reunion. I love the hell out of this song, anyways she mentions Frankie Beverly. I love Frankie Beverly. Why is he so underrated? Has he ever won a Grammy? eek


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To me, Maze was just funky party music.
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Reply #2 posted 12/19/04 2:04am

LilJon

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i think they have won a grammy r 2 in th past let me check grammy.com 1st.....no they havent won anything
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Reply #3 posted 12/19/04 4:26am

Hotlegs

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To me, Maze was just funky party music.



nod Exactly. The only cuts that I could tolerate by them were "Before I Let Go, Joy & Pain, I Can't Get Over You.
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Reply #4 posted 12/19/04 7:36am

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I'm a big fan of Maze & Frankie Beverly.
I think songs like "Joy & pain" "Happy feeling"
& "the look in your eyes" R pure magic!
Just take a listen 2 their 1980 "Live in New Orleans" album.
/peace Manki
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Reply #5 posted 12/19/04 7:37am

JesseDezz

It's something about them that never seemed to catch on with the mainstream. Maybe it was the hat.
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Reply #6 posted 12/20/04 7:48am

pennylover

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Thank u 4 replying 2 this post. 4 a minute I thought I was the only 1 who liked Frankie Beverly. I was just curious as 2 why his career never blew up.
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Reply #7 posted 12/20/04 8:50am

Thriller81

My first concert ever was Frankie Beverly and Maze in 1993. Maze always had a laid back, Black family reunion feel. 'Live in New Orleans' is one of the best live albums I've heard next to Marvin Gaye's Live in Oakland.
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Reply #8 posted 12/20/04 9:05am

Dancelot

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NWF said:

shrug


To me, Maze was just funky party music.


Party music?? ehmmm... you're not confusing them with Kool& the gang by any chance wink but I guess you never did catch a full Maze album, did you? they always had their best moments with their slow and midtempo jams nod and Frankies unique silky voice you just have to love... please, go and catch tracks like

I Wanna Thank You worship (probably my fave Maze slowie)
Can't Stop the Love (would be a standout track even on the best Anita Baker albums)
The look in your eyes (classic!)
We are one, Happy Feelings, Look at California, Golden Time Of Day, Love is the key, A Place in my heart, Silky Soul ... ...


hell, there are tons more where that came from smile oh yes, and they DID have some superb uptempo tracks as well nod

They are one of the greatest fucking bands ever, hands down!!!

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Reply #9 posted 12/20/04 9:47am

pennylover

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Dancelot said:

NWF said:

shrug


To me, Maze was just funky party music.


Party music?? ehmmm... you're not confusing them with Kool& the gang by any chance wink but I guess you never did catch a full Maze album, did you? they always had their best moments with their slow and midtempo jams nod and Frankies unique silky voice you just have to love... please, go and catch tracks like

I Wanna Thank You worship (probably my fave Maze slowie)
Can't Stop the Love (would be a standout track even on the best Anita Baker albums)
The look in your eyes (classic!)
We are one, Happy Feelings, Look at California, Golden Time Of Day, Love is the key, A Place in my heart, Silky Soul ... ...


hell, there are tons more where that came from smile oh yes, and they DID have some superb uptempo tracks as well nod

They are one of the greatest fucking bands ever, hands down!!!

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worship worship
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Reply #10 posted 12/20/04 9:48am

pennylover

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I never heard 'Live in New Orleans'. I will diffidently go out and purchase it. I love Frankie Beverly and Maze. So freakin underrated. Does Woo play the drums? I know he was with Frankie 4 a long time. He left the group but came back. I’m so glad u guys gave him props on this thread. 4 those not hip 2 Frankie really need 2 listen 2 some of his CD’s. He’s very funk, soulful and a laid back type of guy.
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Reply #11 posted 12/20/04 10:05am

funkpill

And his concerts are just awesome!!!!!
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Reply #12 posted 12/20/04 10:15am

Dancelot

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funkpill said:

And his concerts are just awesome!!!!!


true!!! I sadly saw them just once, that was back in 1991... wonderful experience nod
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Reply #13 posted 12/20/04 10:19am

Dancelot

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omfg I forgot to mention "Can't get over you", one of my absolute faves!

(I mixed it up with "Can't Stop the Love " boxed )







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Reply #14 posted 12/20/04 10:49am

DavidEye

"The Look In Your Eyes" (1980) music

"Before I Let Go" (1981) music

...
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Reply #15 posted 12/20/04 11:48am

funkpill

"The Look In Your Eyes" & "The Morning After" are my favorites.....
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Reply #16 posted 12/20/04 10:13pm

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My Maze favorites:
"Feel That Your Feeling"
"The Look In your Eyes"
"Happy Feeling"
"Lady Of Magic"
"Magic"
"Family"
"Before I let Go"
"Joy And Pain"
"We Need Love To Live"
"Golden Time Of Day"
"A Place In My Heart"
"Lovely Inspiration"
"Southern Girls"
"We Are One"
"Reason"
"I Wish You Well"



"...We are Happy(Happy)....'Cause were one big family...."


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" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #17 posted 12/20/04 10:47pm

funkpill

paligap said:

My Maze favorites:
"Feel That Your Feeling"
"The Look In your Eyes"
"Happy Feeling"
"Lady Of Magic"
"Magic"
"Family"
"Before I let Go"
"Joy And Pain"
"We Need Love To Live"
"Golden Time Of Day"
"A Place In My Heart"
"Lovely Inspiration"
"Southern Girls"
"We Are One"
"Reason"
"I Wish You Well"



"...We are Happy(Happy)....'Cause were one big family...."


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Don't forget "Look At California".....classic...
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Reply #18 posted 12/21/04 1:24am

funkpill

Dancelot said:

funkpill said:

And his concerts are just awesome!!!!!


true!!! I sadly saw them just once, that was back in 1991... wonderful experience nod

Ahh man!!!! I think I seen them a least 4 or 5 times...
Great shows, all of them!!!!
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Reply #19 posted 12/21/04 3:06am

paligap

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funkpill said:



Don't forget "Look At California".....classic...


biggrin Oh Yeah! Ndeed!!
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Reply #20 posted 12/21/04 5:12am

funkpill

pennylover said:

I never heard 'Live in New Orleans'. I will diffidently go out and purchase it. I love Frankie Beverly and Maze. So freakin underrated. Does Woo play the drums? I know he was with Frankie 4 a long time. He left the group but came back. I’m so glad u guys gave him props on this thread. 4 those not hip 2 Frankie really need 2 listen 2 some of his CD’s. He’s very funk, soulful and a laid back type of guy.

Get both the CD & the DVD version of this concert.....
While you're at it, get the 'Live In L.A.' CD & DVD.....
And guess what???? George Clinton is in the audience having a good time.....
Both are great concerts.....
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Reply #21 posted 12/21/04 2:06pm

DavidEye

funkpill said:

pennylover said:

I never heard 'Live in New Orleans'. I will diffidently go out and purchase it. I love Frankie Beverly and Maze. So freakin underrated. Does Woo play the drums? I know he was with Frankie 4 a long time. He left the group but came back. I’m so glad u guys gave him props on this thread. 4 those not hip 2 Frankie really need 2 listen 2 some of his CD’s. He’s very funk, soulful and a laid back type of guy.

Get both the CD & the DVD version of this concert.....



Is the DVD the actual New Orleans show that was filmed back in 1981 (which resulted in the 2-LP "Live In New Orleans" set)? I gotta get my hands on that! I love the album.
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Reply #22 posted 12/21/04 2:11pm

DavidEye

pennylover said:

Thank u 4 replying 2 this post. 4 a minute I thought I was the only 1 who liked Frankie Beverly. I was just curious as 2 why his career never blew up.



Actually,Frankie Beverly and Maze have had ALOT of success with R&B audiences.They never really "crossed over" or experienced big pop success,but their albums and singles routinely go to the top of the R&B charts.
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Reply #23 posted 12/21/04 9:28pm

funkpill

DavidEye said:

funkpill said:


Get both the CD & the DVD version of this concert.....



Is the DVD the actual New Orleans show that was filmed back in 1981 (which resulted in the 2-LP "Live In New Orleans" set)? I gotta get my hands on that! I love the album.

YEP!!!! Sure is.....
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Reply #24 posted 12/21/04 10:24pm

NWF

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Dancelot said:

NWF said:

shrug


To me, Maze was just funky party music.


Party music?? ehmmm... you're not confusing them with Kool& the gang by any chance wink but I guess you never did catch a full Maze album, did you? they always had their best moments with their slow and midtempo jams nod and Frankies unique silky voice you just have to love... please, go and catch tracks like

I Wanna Thank You worship (probably my fave Maze slowie)
Can't Stop the Love (would be a standout track even on the best Anita Baker albums)
The look in your eyes (classic!)
We are one, Happy Feelings, Look at California, Golden Time Of Day, Love is the key, A Place in my heart, Silky Soul ... ...


hell, there are tons more where that came from smile oh yes, and they DID have some superb uptempo tracks as well nod

They are one of the greatest fucking bands ever, hands down!!!

.
[Edited 12/20/04 1:07am]


Maybe I will scope them out more. But I always saw them as a funky party band that I didn't really take too seriously. Sure, I'd say they were like Kool and the Gang or even Cameo or Slave.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #25 posted 12/21/04 10:43pm

jamaulredmond

They focused and promoted their music only to the black audience.Correction, The older black audiences .
I don't think they ever wrote or wanted to write a so called "Cross over" song.


I Put Maze in the same boat with Teddy Pedergrass or Curtis Mayfield. The Staple Singers. Other people like that. They wrote strickly SOUL music for an older black audience.
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Reply #26 posted 12/21/04 11:13pm

funkpill

jamaulredmond said:

They focused and promoted their music only to the black audience.Correction, The older black audiences .
I don't think they ever wrote or wanted to write a so called "Cross over" song.


I Put Maze in the same boat with Teddy Pedergrass or Curtis Mayfield. The Staple Singers. Other people like that. They wrote strickly SOUL music for an older black audience.

And that's not a bad thing....is it?????
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Reply #27 posted 12/21/04 11:38pm

funkpill

funkpill said:

jamaulredmond said:

They focused and promoted their music only to the black audience.Correction, The older black audiences .
I don't think they ever wrote or wanted to write a so called "Cross over" song.


I Put Maze in the same boat with Teddy Pedergrass or Curtis Mayfield. The Staple Singers. Other people like that. They wrote strickly SOUL music for an older black audience.

And that's not a bad thing....is it?????

Frankie himself stated that he owe his black following for sticking w/ him & the band...He knows his roots....
But if you ever attended to one of his concerts, he has a mixture of people in the audience.....
He didn't have to sellout to get that type of crowd.....
It just goes to show you that people will find good music.....
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Reply #28 posted 12/22/04 2:33pm

jamaulredmond

funkpill said:

jamaulredmond said:

They focused and promoted their music only to the black audience.Correction, The older black audiences .
I don't think they ever wrote or wanted to write a so called "Cross over" song.


I Put Maze in the same boat with Teddy Pedergrass or Curtis Mayfield. The Staple Singers. Other people like that. They wrote strickly SOUL music for an older black audience.

And that's not a bad thing....is it?????



Not bad at all. It's a normal thing. That's why I listed all the other artist that remained popular within a certain demographic but never really get that much credit.
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Reply #29 posted 12/22/04 4:11pm

OdysseyMiles

I rate them highly!

bowbow

I saw these guys once, and it was back in '93. Toni Braxton opened. All ages and backgrounds were there. The whole concert was like one big party. NICE!
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