Now of course there are plenty of young, untimely deaths in the history of rock, but has anybody considered tragedies in rock that didn't result in death? My two pics are Curtis Mayfield's paralysis and Sly Stone's disillusion, addiction, artistic decline and ultimate disappearance.

Whitney and Mariah morph into an addict and a childlike bimbo playing dressup in her hooker mother's closet, respectively.

I'm surprised Courtney Love's survived as long as she has.

SosGemini said we couldn't have any more Michael Jackson threads people...

SpcMs said:

VoicesCarry said:

co-

subhuman09 said:

co-sign

Prince becoming a JW

Nelly.

Me not being a rock star.

pennylover said:

Yeah I must admitt that's fucking hilarious

In any case, other things that might not be "tragedies" per se are the extents to which a lot of old veterans have sold out ala Macca, Clapton, Sting, Santana and others.

Btw voices, good choice on Mariah. Glitter in and of itself is also quite a tragedy

subhuman09 said:

co-sign.

Top 3

Eminem
Justin Timber
William Hung

Chico1 said:

Woops! Replace William Hung with Usher.


those pieces of shite edit!
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the breakup of the Beatles

whenpigeonscry said:

Thanks to your avatar and signature, I'm hearing the "What's Happening" theme in my head.


Al Green & hot grits.

Prince changing his style in 1985.

The fall of Rick James due to drugs.

Janet Jackson selling out to current trends after her "Rhythm Nation" album.

Michael Jackson becoming so weird.

Whitney Houston coming on the scene period.

Hip hop dominating R&B.

The death of funk.
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What happened to Motown

STAX is gone after 75'

Michael Jackson

No More Funk

Rap Music is so popular

Beatles break-up

Usher starts to sing

East Coast vs. West Coast

Although i'm a HUGE fan of The Beatles i doubt that they'd have been
any good when the hadn't broken up
Cause they all weren't getting along any more
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Dewrede said:

vainandy said:

I agree with the JJ, MJ, and funk died parts of your post. Good calls. I would also like to add that it's quite sad to me that the MAJORITY of artists today are signed, sold, and marketed on looks primary, talent (and that term is used loosely) secondary. Sure, there are artists like Ani DiFranco & pj Harvey who don't go all t & a to sell albums (though, unfortunately, they don't sell many albums), but even touted "Singer/Songwriter" artists such as John Mayer & Jewel (remember - she didn't start out as a pop singer) have been put into pretty little packages, posed for mass-market photo spreads, and let music videos try to sell their latest efforts for them. Singers don't even need to 'sing' anymore.

And as much as I love what some artists have done with the medium, I must say that MTV really did play a part in killing quality music. It seems that the current school of thought adheres to the following maxim: 'Who cares that songs by Usher, Nelly, nameless boy bands, Christina, Britney, Jessica, Ashlee, and Lindsay are pretty much crap? They look good in videos and can garner tons of revenue by sounding mediocre and canned anyway!'

Also, I remember the good ol' days when rap artists made their own albums, pop or r&b singers made their own albums and ne'er the 'tween should meet. Sure, once in awhile they congregated (like MC Lyte on Sinead O'Connor's I Want Your Hands On Me), but now, every song out there seems to have the word "featuring" after the title, and that is then followed by at least 3 names. No more Ashanti, Fat Joe, R Kelly, Ja Rule, Usher, Nelly, etc. mix and matches. No no no.

Chico1 said:

Nipplegate nincompoopery aside, Justified is still a good album.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Good call, although the body count is high.

CinisterCee said:

OMG...shhhh....don't say that shit to loud. They gonna come and beat ya with a


Ursher is betta than Justin Timber just ask Urshers momma.....



I think ya'll named them all:


Whitney

Mariah

Papa Joe's Kids (Michael and Janet)

MTV no longer being a music channel

BET...no conscience

The boy bands being called boy "bands" and being called talented

and that downloading music is considered "wrong" when the crap that is released is considered "right"....
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Adam Ant going mental.

I MISS ADAM!

Please come back, my little Dandy Highwayman.

Oh, and the breakup of The Smiths too.

Damn, now I can't think of any others. I think a lot of the big tragedies have been mentioned.

What a bummer of a thread.

when hip hop went "gansta"

mysogynistic rap videos

the emphasis of style over substance in music (thanks mtv)

massive conglomerates owning mulitple radio stations and controlling playlist so every station literally sounds the same (does anyone even listed to the radio anymore?)

meow85 said:

sorry

CinisterCee said:

Who said anything about nipplegate? He's just crap period.

Chico1 said:

whatever. *nipple tweak*