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Thread started 11/18/04 1:42pm

thekidsgirl

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Rise and Fall of the Diva

Remember the days of the early 90's
when the charts were ruled buy the likes of
Whitney, Janet, Mariah, Celine, and a score of wanna-bes

They were some classy, demanding, queenish, divas with big hair and bigger voices but the somewhere
along the way they went out of style like high top fades.

The trend changed and suddenly everywoman was either
"super-down to earth" or a "ride or die chick"

But you know what...I miss my divas!
I miss the days when they were respected and adored, not
just jokes.

Do you think these fallen ladies will ever rise backto glory?

Will Whitney forever be associated with drugs and Bobby Browns shenanagens?

Will we always wonder if Mariah is on the verge?

Can America get past Janets boob and sub-par album?

When will these ladies return to glory? I know there only human
but can the public allow them to reclaim their throne???
If you will, so will I
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Reply #1 posted 11/18/04 1:56pm

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U remember groups like en vogue,the good girls, jade and solo acts like cece peniston and even more so acts like the high class ball breaking funky as hell Jody watley ("larger then life" album has some of the funkiest production and fiesty vocals, attitude wise, u'll ever hear!), Kayrn White and even Pebbles.....they were diva's too right? MC Lyte and queen latifah represented the hood diva(?), En vogue cornered both those markets.....


Remember Diana Ross' "workin overtime"? Damn that track kiled me!
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/04 1:57pm

Fleshofmyflesh

Nope.
If Elvis can't come back, neither can them ho's.
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Reply #3 posted 11/18/04 2:01pm

thekidsgirl

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thesexofit said:

U remember groups like en vogue,the good girls, jade and solo acts like cece peniston and even more so acts like the high class ball breaking funky as hell Jody watley ("larger then life" album has some of the funkiest production and fiesty vocals, attitude wise, u'll ever hear!), Kayrn White and even Pebbles.....they were diva's too right? MC Lyte and queen latifah represented the hood diva(?), En vogue cornered both those markets.....


Remember Diana Ross' "workin overtime"? Damn that track kiled me!


Yes yes yes Thanks for the additions!
those women fall in the same category Especially Envouge!
They were the truth back then!
Those hamonies could hurt a man
If you will, so will I
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Reply #4 posted 11/18/04 4:03pm

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thekidsgirl said:

thesexofit said:

U remember groups like en vogue,the good girls, jade and solo acts like cece peniston and even more so acts like the high class ball breaking funky as hell Jody watley ("larger then life" album has some of the funkiest production and fiesty vocals, attitude wise, u'll ever hear!), Kayrn White and even Pebbles.....they were diva's too right? MC Lyte and queen latifah represented the hood diva(?), En vogue cornered both those markets.....


Remember Diana Ross' "workin overtime"? Damn that track kiled me!


Yes yes yes Thanks for the additions!
those women fall in the same category Especially Envouge!
They were the truth back then!
Those hamonies could hurt a man



unfortunately mariah might be the biggest fallen diva but i do think she can make a strong come back. she has the talent to do it.
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Reply #5 posted 11/19/04 12:19pm

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Remember the days of the early 90's
when the charts were ruled buy the likes of
Whitney, Janet, Mariah, Celine, and a score of wanna-bes

They were some classy, demanding, queenish, divas with big hair and bigger voices but the somewhere
along the way they went out of style like high top fades.

The trend changed and suddenly everywoman was either
"super-down to earth" or a "ride or die chick"

But you know what...I miss my divas!
I miss the days when they were respected and adored, not
just jokes.

Do you think these fallen ladies will ever rise back to glory?


Remember that music, like most other trends, tends to be cyclical. Mariah, Celine, Whitney and Janet were huge in the 1990's, and like the supermodels they shared the spotlight with in popularity, tended to be marketed as larger than life; therefore the "diva" designation. In contrast, grunge and hip-hop were supposed to be raw and rough, so the fellas had to show that they were down with the people, or "keepin' it real." That's why people liked Kurt Cobain in his dirty flannel and the whole east coast/west coast street wear.

Now these days, with reality TV and a new generation raised on TRL, accessibility is nearly mandatory. We older fans of Whitney, Janet and Mariah may have only become aware of Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera and Jessica Simpson when they blew up with the boy band craze, but younger fans had grown up watching them on the Disney Channel and Nickelodeon, so they were already familiar with them when their music came out. Likewise, Beyonce and Aaliyah had already been on "Star Search" so they were also part of this new wave. Then you throw in the WB, "American Idol", etc., and you have a whole new generation of stars to compete with the previous idols. It's not that music fans dislike Whitney, Janet, Mariah, et al., but younger fans look at them as artists that their parents or older siblings loved, while us fans who are their peers expect some growth and maturity in their music. What makes it difficult for the older divas is that they may want to go in a certain direction musically, but the record companies are resistant to change the formula which made them famous (i.e., a lot of money), so they force them to put out a sound which no longer suits them. Plus some artists feel threatened by the new generation of artists, so they try too hard to stay relevant and end up fumbling in the process.

Anyway, all of the 90's divas are capable of a huge comeback. They need to recognize that they are the elder stateswomen who the younger artists look up to , and they need to do some music which represents that. Tina Turner did this back in the 80's with "Private Dancer" which exploded after most people thought her career was over.

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