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How come artists need 15 different people to produce their albums? Long gone are the days when artists only used one producer, to produce an album.Ican understand wanting to try different styles/sounds but sometimes it comes off sounding like a mess. | |
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dancerella said: Long gone are the days when artists only used one producer, to produce an album.Ican understand wanting to try different styles/sounds but sometimes it comes off sounding like a mess.
True, but you have to understand a little bit about how the market works. These days, pop music is a producer's market. Certain names represent a certain percentage of guarenteed sales. Kanye West, Dr. Dre, the Roots, Lil Jon  all have a certain rep that guarentees sales to a certain market. Labels are corporations. Like all corporations, they follow a business plan that is expected to guarentee a certain degree of success. Its about covering their bases. If Dancerella puts out a CD called "Born to Dance" and the title single, "Dancing with You" is produced by Kanye West as are 3 other tracks on the CD, Jermaine Dupree produced 3 others and the rest are produced by R. Kelly, they can basically look at the amount of money that a number of other songs produced by the same producer that were released with first time artists singing on them and make an educated guess as to how many units the record will move based on who produced it alone. It is a logical method that proves to work in giving them a general reference as to how much money to sink into that particular artist's music video, etc. So if "Danicing With You" does well after haing the top producer of the moment working on the single, they can take comfort in knowing there will be a return on their investment whether "Dancerella" the artist is successful or not. That way, if failure occurs, when its time to put heads on the chopping block one dept. will say "We got Kanye", another will say "We had Bernie master the record" - "Blame the lack of success on the art dept. The cover sucked". Its also about how many are trying to reach their hands in the artist's cookie jar. See?
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BlaqueKnight said: dancerella said: Long gone are the days when artists only used one producer, to produce an album.Ican understand wanting to try different styles/sounds but sometimes it comes off sounding like a mess.
True, but you have to understand a little bit about how the market works. These days, pop music is a producer's market. Certain names represent a certain percentage of guarenteed sales. Kanye West, Dr. Dre, the Roots, Lil Jon all have a certain rep that guarentees sales to a certain market. Labels are corporations. Like all corporations, they follow a business plan that is expected to guarentee a certain degree of success. Its about covering their bases. If Dancerella puts out a CD called "Born to Dance" and the title single, "Dancing with You" is produced by Kanye West as are 3 other tracks on the CD, Jermaine Dupree produced 3 others and the rest are produced by R. Kelly, they can basically look at the amount of money that a number of other songs produced by the same producer that were released with first time artists singing on them and make an educated guess as to how many units the record will move based on who produced it alone. It is a logical method that proves to work in giving them a general reference as to how much money to sink into that particular artist's music video, etc. So if "Danicing With You" does well after haing the top producer of the moment working on the single, they can take comfort in knowing there will be a return on their investment whether "Dancerella" the artist is successful or not. That way, if failure occurs, when its time to put heads on the chopping block one dept. will say "We got Kanye", another will say "We had Bernie master the record" - "Blame the lack of success on the art dept. The cover sucked". Its also about how many are trying to reach their hands in the artist's cookie jar. See?
whats wrong with lil jon's art?hes different | |
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ABeautifulOne said: BlaqueKnight said: True, but you have to understand a little bit about how the market works. These days, pop music is a producer's market. Certain names represent a certain percentage of guarenteed sales. Kanye West, Dr. Dre, the Roots, Lil Jon all have a certain rep that guarentees sales to a certain market. Labels are corporations. Like all corporations, they follow a business plan that is expected to guarentee a certain degree of success. Its about covering their bases. If Dancerella puts out a CD called "Born to Dance" and the title single, "Dancing with You" is produced by Kanye West as are 3 other tracks on the CD, Jermaine Dupree produced 3 others and the rest are produced by R. Kelly, they can basically look at the amount of money that a number of other songs produced by the same producer that were released with first time artists singing on them and make an educated guess as to how many units the record will move based on who produced it alone. It is a logical method that proves to work in giving them a general reference as to how much money to sink into that particular artist's music video, etc. So if "Danicing With You" does well after haing the top producer of the moment working on the single, they can take comfort in knowing there will be a return on their investment whether "Dancerella" the artist is successful or not. That way, if failure occurs, when its time to put heads on the chopping block one dept. will say "We got Kanye", another will say "We had Bernie master the record" - "Blame the lack of success on the art dept. The cover sucked". Its also about how many are trying to reach their hands in the artist's cookie jar. See?
whats wrong with lil jon's art?hes different 
/still trying to get past the idea of "Lil' Jon's art" | |
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he doe sgreat music including Ooooh NaaaNaaaaNaaaa me and my girlfriends fav song.its a slo song with a lot of far out lyrics xample:
oohhhh naanaanaa im so horny and i want u to f*** me im tired of masterbating got my body shaking no orgasm faking with me  | |
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ABeautifulOne said: he doe sgreat music including Ooooh NaaaNaaaaNaaaa me and my girlfriends fav song.its a slo song with a lot of far out lyrics xample:
oohhhh naanaanaa im so horny and i want u to f*** me im tired of masterbating got my body shaking no orgasm faking with me Wow, that's poetry! How profound! | |
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BlaqueKnight said: dancerella said: Long gone are the days when artists only used one producer, to produce an album.Ican understand wanting to try different styles/sounds but sometimes it comes off sounding like a mess.
True, but you have to understand a little bit about how the market works. These days, pop music is a producer's market. Certain names represent a certain percentage of guarenteed sales. Kanye West, Dr. Dre, the Roots, Lil Jon all have a certain rep that guarentees sales to a certain market. Labels are corporations. Like all corporations, they follow a business plan that is expected to guarentee a certain degree of success. Its about covering their bases. If Dancerella puts out a CD called "Born to Dance" and the title single, "Dancing with You" is produced by Kanye West as are 3 other tracks on the CD, Jermaine Dupree produced 3 others and the rest are produced by R. Kelly, they can basically look at the amount of money that a number of other songs produced by the same producer that were released with first time artists singing on them and make an educated guess as to how many units the record will move based on who produced it alone. It is a logical method that proves to work in giving them a general reference as to how much money to sink into that particular artist's music video, etc. So if "Danicing With You" does well after haing the top producer of the moment working on the single, they can take comfort in knowing there will be a return on their investment whether "Dancerella" the artist is successful or not. That way, if failure occurs, when its time to put heads on the chopping block one dept. will say "We got Kanye", another will say "We had Bernie master the record" - "Blame the lack of success on the art dept. The cover sucked". Its also about how many are trying to reach their hands in the artist's cookie jar. See?
i see. it's just a shame what the record industry has turned into. it's all about money and not artistry or talent. | |
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i realized the music industry is at the bottom of the bottom when they a contract to the talentless Asian guy from American Idols as a joke and the singers like Jeffery Osborne, Pebo Bryson Howard Hewitt etc with emence(sp)
talent don't.... | |
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I can remember the days when a lot of the artists, especially the groups, produced themselves. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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