Anxiety said:

word.

mrdespues said:

Where did I say that (this is the second time you've pulled ideas out of thin air and labelled them mine)? You really missed my point entirely. THE POINT IS: An artist with an immaculately-crafted image should not diss another artist with an immaculately-crafted image for exploiting cash flow. It's hypocritical. If this were, say, Ella Fitzgerald or BB King, well, they can say whatever the fuck they want. But since Bjork uses smoke and mirrors just as much as Beyonce, she doesn't have a leg to stand on.

And, yeah, if you thought her music sucked and she was incredibly popular, you'd be bitching about her succeeding via distraction, style and controversy. Obviously. Why do you think so many people on this board bitch about Madonna?
[Edited 10/28/04 19:14pm]

TheRealFiness said:

It's sad but ohh so true.

Hotlegs said:

if what was in the "hyperballad" video is what oompa loompas look like these days, then oompa-loompa me do!

VoicesCarry said:

oh shut up.

mrdespues said:

Well there's an intelligent reply

Without taking sides or sounding harsh, I think the explanation is pretty simple.

Sure, everyone in entertainment uses their image to get ahead. Even if an artist is anti-image like say New Order or somebody, that still becomes a selling point.

But I think the difference is what you're selling. Of course Bjork uses imagery and fashion. Perhaps better than anyone. But she's doing it for the sake of furthering her art. She's selling herself. And that's what artists who go for fame and recognition do, they sell themselves. But that doesn't necessarily mean selling OUT.

When you start selling soda and fast food and cosmetics and deodorant and cars, you run the risk of looking a wee bit fake. I don't always have a problem with it. But I can see how someone as singly motivated as Bjork would.

Bjork isn't saying she hates Beyonce's fashion sense or her choice of eye shadow. I think she's just expressing disappointment in a fellow artist she has a lot of respect for. I don't find this catty or mean-spirited at all. Not even hypocritical. It's a bit strange coming from Bjork. I'm not used to her talking about other celebrities much. But it certainly isn't slander.

sosgemini said:

Oh hell no. What was she smoking when she did this photoshoot? she must have smoked a and thought she Beyonce. Give me a fucking break.

Hotlegs said:

ever heard of a little thing called "photoshop"? no way bjork could make her bjoobs look like that.

PS:



look familiar?

VoicesCarry said:

You are shifting your negative opinion of Bjork somewhat everytime to just vent.
We carefully pointed out the difference between Bjork and Beyonce's images, the tools they use and what they try to reach, but you just twist another bit of your negative-no-matter-what-opinion to keep on venting.

So now she is hypocritical for having an opinion and now somehow Madonna is involved again. We were not talking about Madonna.

Supernova said:

Huh? I gave the guy a compliment...

Anxiety said:

Or she could have use wonderbra.

Anxiety said:

If I am correct it's actually a picture of Rosanne, heheh

Hotlegs said:

Dude, that's Elvira.

GangstaFam said:

LoL

Rosanne then took a pic as Elvira, who ever Elvira is.

GooeyTheHamster said:

How am I shifting my "negative" opinion of Bjork?

I actually think she's musically brilliant, and even if I don't happen to "get" it, I can respect her for her talent and actually understand why other people like her.

And I cited Madonna as an example of someone whom a lot of people believe is untalented, but who "gets by" on flash and style. We're not allowed to reference other artists in a discussion now?

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for artists to do commercials.We always hear horror stories about how record companies rip off artists,so they should make money any way they can,and getting paid millions of dollars for doing a one-minute commercial isn't such a bad deal.Look at it this way...Beyonce is "hot" right now and her name carries alot of value.But one day,she might become a forgotten has-been,struggling just to get a gig in Vegas (especially considering how fickle today's pop audiences are).She has to milk her current success for all it's worth,because it may not last forever.


Another thing....her commercials have NOTHING to do with her music.She is still a legitimate musical artist,regardless of the other ways in which she chooses to make a quick buck.

GooeyTheHamster said:

DISQUALIFIED!!!

For the love of all that's sacred, I can't believe this frickin' thread has gotten so nuts. The title is misleading, because Bjork didn't "diss" Beyonce'.
It's been pointed out several times already that she really likes her. I actually read this quote last week (in Interview magazine, I think) and thought nothing of it. She sounded concerned more than anything else.

GangstaFam said:

I am referring to Bjork.

Hotlegs said:

Hotlegs said:

yes, well. it's still elvira. scroll up a bit. i posted the source pic they used.

GooeyTheHamster said:

I guess that makes it even, because I have no idea what you're talking about NOW.

OdysseyMiles said:

Sure ya can, it's the Org.

I love this thread.

Supernova said:

Of course.

Let's turn this into a BJORK AND HER OUTFITS thread!

oops
[Edited 10/29/04 12:24pm]

Bjork you need to quit hatin'. You just mad cuz ain't nobody called you to do no commercials. If the opportunites are out there get em and that's what Beyonce's doing.