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Thread started 10/23/04 3:12am

jolajeph

TQ does "Adore".....JUSTICE!

I always thought it would be a crime if an artist covered "Adore" but TQ has done it & I have to give props to the guy.
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Reply #1 posted 10/23/04 10:03am

Luv4oneanotha

Isn't TQ, the guy who sang that song about F*cking your girlfriends sister?
wtf?
I remember him, he use to Take Shots at P, and now he's using a Cover?
F*cking Hypocrite's
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Reply #2 posted 10/23/04 10:16am

Lennon

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Nobody can cover Adore better than Prince sang it... TQ sucks anyhow...
the beautiful ones, you always seem to loose
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Reply #3 posted 10/23/04 10:27am

way2funky

Who the hell is TQ?
'You must first be a Prince before you can be King'

king nod
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/04 12:02pm

psykosoul

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Nobody can cover Adore better than Prince sang it...


Lather...rinse....repeat....
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/04 5:53pm

KatSkrizzle

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way2funky said:

Who the hell is TQ?

co-sign
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Reply #6 posted 10/23/04 6:15pm

Adisa

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KatSkrizzle said:

way2funky said:

Who the hell is TQ?

co-sign

Double co-sign, and please post a link cuz it's hard to believe that Prince would let this guy record that song.
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #7 posted 10/23/04 6:41pm

TheJourney4all
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way2funky said:

Who the hell is TQ?



TQ isn't the first artist to combine hard-core hip-hop lyrical scenarios with a melodic r&b vocal delivery. But with this 18-track collection, he's taken this particular form to the next level of expression. TQ wraps his soulful, yearning tenor around the raw, uncensored language of the new melenia hip-hop generation, but uses that language to tell stories of cinematic detail and heartfelt emotion.

Case in point: The brilliantly sung, powerfully produced tribute track "Westside," the album's certified gold Top Ten single and hit video. Dedicated to late rap icons Eazy-E and Tupac Shakur, "Westside" gives props to the rappers who most influenced TQ's life and music. Taken on its own terms, the song is as much of an urban anthem as Stevie Wonder's "Living For The City"—and as tuneful as any Luther Vandross or Babyface hit.

"This song means a lot to me," he explains, "because it accurately reflects how I feel about real brothers like Eazy, Tupac, Too Short, and Ice Cube. They were all instrumental in giving a powerful global voice to Black kids who, without rap, might never have been heard.

"I had to be down with that, but in my own way. Most people rap about it—I had to sing about it."

TQ wrote every word on They Never Saw Me Coming, with the lion's share of the sparse, on-point production handled by Mike Mosley of Steady Mobbin Productions. Mosley's outstanding studio work with such artists as Tupac Shakur and E-40 speaks for itself. "Mike and I really like and respect each other," TQ acknowledged. "He's very serious about his work, like I am. By motivating each other, we both gave my project 110 percent."

"Bye Bye Baby," a Mosley/Ty Howard produced track, is based on a true story about a woman shot by a drive-by bullet meant for her man; it's followed by "The Comeback," a soul-searing track detailing the violent revenge wreaked on the shooter. "Darling Mary" is a playful ode to urban life's blunted reality; "When I Get Out," a pulsating ballad between TQ and Ericka Yancey, about an incarcerated brother's insecurity when it comes to his lover on the outside.

A horrifying drug-related incident from TQ's past was the source of "Remember Melinda"; "Make That Money" is a contemporary hustlers' theme song, featuring a guest rap by E-40 and another showstopping performance by TQ. "The bottom line," he states, "is that this album is about my life, the lives of the people that are close to me, and those that influenced me."

The artist known as TQ was born Terrance Quaites in Mobile, Alabama. Shortly thereafter, TQ's family moved to Compton, California, the birthplace of N.W.A. and other rap legends. TQ was raised in the church (he sang in the choir) but his real education came from the streets, where the first wave of hip-hop music became the soundtrack to his life. "From Monday to Saturday I was hangin', partyin', chasing girls, getting in trouble, and straight-up acting the fool," he admits. "But on Sunday my mother dragged me out of bed to go to church. That's where I developed my singing voice and learned how to make people feel me."

TQ was never a thug in the true sense of the word: His hard-working parents instilled positive values in him, and didn't hesitate to set him straight when he was wrong. At 16, when his mom found a gun in his room, she sent the teenager to live with an aunt in Atlanta. In retrospect, says TQ, "sending me down South saved my life. It made me straighten up—for awhile, anyway."

These conflicting circumstances honed TQ's survival instincts and his passion for music. "The little money I had to buy records was spent on rap," he notes. "See, I really wasn't much into my generation's r&b. I listened more to the old-school soul that my parents had in the house. So my music now is more a combination of that and hard-core hip-hop."

After working as an intern at A&M Records, TQ was tapped as the lead singer in a group called Coming of Age. In 1993, the group scored a Top 40 R&B hit with "Coming Home To Love" (Zoo Entertainment). TQ left the group in search of a solo career and landed a deal at Atlantic. But he says the label asked him to water-down his lyrics, and no album was ever issued.

TQ knows that the lyrical content of They Never Saw Me Coming is certain to spark controversy. But he refuses to acquiesce, believing that honesty, talent, and freedom of expression are on his side. "Like protons and neutrons," he theorizes, "life is about positives and negatives, little pluses and minuses. If you cover up the minuses then the pluses don't mean shit. That's why I'll never sugar-coat my lyrics to keep a record deal or to satisfy anybody else's view of what my music should be."

"What I love about my present labels is that they've given me complete creative control, and that nobody fucks with me about my songs. As an artist who believes in God, himself and his music, I couldn't ask for more than that."

- www.tqweb.com
[Edited 10/23/04 18:44pm]
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Reply #8 posted 10/23/04 6:53pm

CalhounSq

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WTF is going on on this thread??? whofarted disbelief chair
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #9 posted 10/23/04 6:54pm

TheJourney4all
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Adisa said:

KatSkrizzle said:


co-sign

Double co-sign, and please post a link cuz it's hard to believe that Prince would let this guy record that song.


Listen
TQ



Audio CD (August 31, 2004)
Label: Lightyear
ASIN: B0002M5TEI
Styles: Urban
Parental Advisory
Tracklisting
Listen...
# Title Artist Time

1. Intro TQ 01:52
2. Right On TQ 04:30
3. Listen TQ 03:55
4. Sista TQ 03:54
5. Fly TQ 04:00
6. Call Me TQ 04:19
7. Gne But Not Forgotten TQ 05:30
8. Angela Jones TQ 03:52
9. What U Got TQ 04:06
10. Relax TQ 04:02
11. Until TQ 05:04
12. Adore TQ 05:11

http://music.channel.aol....mid=703763
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Reply #10 posted 10/23/04 8:13pm

LoveAlive

I have heard TQ's version of ADORE and it is not all that IMO.....#1 one of the things that made ADORE such a tight song was that the organ(and the rest of the music in the background) underscroed the emotion in the lyrics and in Prince's singing....they complimented each other...TQ took the organ out,sped the song up using lame r&b/urban sounding music making it something to blast in the jeeps.....#2 TQ's vocal is so whiny and no where near as emotive and sincere as Prince's. It seem as if TQ was trying hard to "get the song just right". TQ just aint convincing singing this song....PRINCE was feeling what he was singing and made us feel that he was feeling it too.....nice try TQ..but I will stick with the original!!!
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Reply #11 posted 10/25/04 5:53am

KatSkrizzle

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OK, how about I'm really embarassed that I didn't know...TQ! the Cash Money kid!
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Reply #12 posted 10/25/04 9:00am

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I think T.Q. did a very nice job with Adore. Of course its not going to "top" Prince's version just as Prince's version of "Just My Imagination" doesn't top the Temp's version. I thought of T.Q. as sort of a second rate R&B singer when he dropped "WestSide". I thought here's yet another R&B crooner trying to use hip hop as a jump off point and failing at it. Even though lyrically, he conveyed some pretty "seemingly' sincere feelings, he still missed the mark. After hearing his version of Adore, I can safely admit that at least the brotha can sing. I didn't mind the organ and the sparse background vocals. That's part of how an artist makes a cover his/her own. This ain't karaoke. The organ & full background are Prince's style. The acoustic guitar keyboard patch in its place is T.Q.'s style. I really liked T.Q.'s bassline ad libs better. Prince's version carries more emotion, but keep in mind that his up & coming CD is entitled "Thug Poetry". Unlike Prince, T.Q. has to work within his marketing confines. Incidentally, I think this particular marketing has been a proven failure (just ask Case and Lathun), but that's neither here nor there. I still say its a nice effort on T.Q. & his camp's part. It has the contemporary touch so as to appeal to what people in his age/marketing group are listening to. He doesn't come off as "singing like a bitch" (trust me, the hood would use those exact words); he proves to have a bigger range than in his previous releases, and he still managed to stay in the little box that the label has put him in. Who knows/ Maybe the label will even let him make a decent video this time? evillol Honestly, I feel a little sorry for artists like T.Q. They can't seem to catch a break. T.Q. has been made fun of in several rap songs, so it really sucks for him. The very community he's trying to associate himself with is rejecting him. Lawd knows rappers need more singers like T.Q. who are willing to sing their hooks. We've heard the disasters that unfold when rappers try to sing their own. Cash Money NEEDED T.Q.! REALLY! I've heard some truly bad Prince covers. I don't think this is one of them.
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Reply #13 posted 10/25/04 9:33am

boriquateddy

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does anyone remember this guy when he was in the group Coming of Age in the early 90's they had a song "Coming home to love"....I came across the video on some old music videos I recorded from way back when.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #14 posted 10/25/04 10:14am

Universaluv

Adisa said:

KatSkrizzle said:


co-sign

Double co-sign, and please post a link cuz it's hard to believe that Prince would let this guy record that song.


He doesn't need Prince's permission to cover it.
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Reply #15 posted 10/25/04 11:35am

Supernova

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Adisa said:

KatSkrizzle said:


co-sign

Double co-sign, and please post a link cuz it's hard to believe that Prince would let this guy record that song.

Unless someone is going to radically change the arrangement of the song, Prince has no choice in the matter.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #16 posted 10/25/04 11:43am

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BlaqueKnight said:

I think T.Q. did a very nice job with Adore. Of course its not going to "top" Prince's version just as Prince's version of "Just My Imagination" doesn't top the Temp's version. I thought of T.Q. as sort of a second rate R&B singer when he dropped "WestSide". I thought here's yet another R&B crooner trying to use hip hop as a jump off point and failing at it. Even though lyrically, he conveyed some pretty "seemingly' sincere feelings, he still missed the mark. After hearing his version of Adore, I can safely admit that at least the brotha can sing. I didn't mind the organ and the sparse background vocals. That's part of how an artist makes a cover his/her own. This ain't karaoke. The organ & full background are Prince's style. The acoustic guitar keyboard patch in its place is T.Q.'s style. I really liked T.Q.'s bassline ad libs better. Prince's version carries more emotion, but keep in mind that his up & coming CD is entitled "Thug Poetry". Unlike Prince, T.Q. has to work within his marketing confines. Incidentally, I think this particular marketing has been a proven failure (just ask Case and Lathun), but that's neither here nor there. I still say its a nice effort on T.Q. & his camp's part. It has the contemporary touch so as to appeal to what people in his age/marketing group are listening to. He doesn't come off as "singing like a bitch" (trust me, the hood would use those exact words); he proves to have a bigger range than in his previous releases, and he still managed to stay in the little box that the label has put him in. Who knows/ Maybe the label will even let him make a decent video this time? evillol Honestly, I feel a little sorry for artists like T.Q. They can't seem to catch a break. T.Q. has been made fun of in several rap songs, so it really sucks for him. The very community he's trying to associate himself with is rejecting him. Lawd knows rappers need more singers like T.Q. who are willing to sing their hooks. We've heard the disasters that unfold when rappers try to sing their own. Cash Money NEEDED T.Q.! REALLY! I've heard some truly bad Prince covers. I don't think this is one of them.

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You have got to put your crack pipe away. So day someone may re-do this song and do a good job but not this guy.
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Reply #17 posted 10/25/04 11:45am

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Universaluv said:

Adisa said:


Double co-sign, and please post a link cuz it's hard to believe that Prince would let this guy record that song.


He doesn't need Prince's permission to cover it.

He needs the songwriter's and publisher's permission to release it.
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #18 posted 10/25/04 11:46am

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Supernova said:

Adisa said:


Double co-sign, and please post a link cuz it's hard to believe that Prince would let this guy record that song.

Unless someone is going to radically change the arrangement of the song, Prince has no choice in the matter.

confuse
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Reply #19 posted 10/25/04 11:49am

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Um, you, me, and anyone else who pays for the license to cover any copywritten song can do so without the original artist's permission. BUT, if we want to completely change the song's arrangement, we DO need said artist's permission. Hope that's clear enough.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #20 posted 10/25/04 11:56am

Adisa

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Supernova said:

Um, you, me, and anyone else who pays for the license to cover any copywritten song can do so without the original artist's permission. BUT, if we want to completely change the song's arrangement, we DO need said artist's permission. Hope that's clear enough.

We're not talking about the damned original artist's permission...I'm talking about the owner, in terms of music the publisher. I don't know what Prince's current publishing situation is like, but the publisher DOES own the rights to a song while the record labels own the arrangements, new or otherwise, of the RECORDING, not the actual song. Hope that's clear enough...

ps, what happened to your sexy avatar...please bring it back.
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Reply #21 posted 10/25/04 12:13pm

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The term "compulsory license" means that you must issue a license to someone who wants to use your work, whether you like it or not.

The compulsory copyright royalty provision for records is in Section 115 of the Copyright Act. It provides that, once a song has been recorded, a copyright owner must license it: (a) to anyone else that wants to use it in a phonorecord (which is a defined term in the Copyright Act), and (b) for a specific payment established by the law.

You can get a compulsory license only if:

1. The song is a nondramatic musical work (musicals, operas); and
2. It has been previously recorded; and
3. The previous recording has been distributed publicly in phonorecords; and
4. Your use of the recording will be in phonorecords only.

All of these conditions must exist before you get a compulsory license.

You cannot get a compulsory license for the very first recording of a work. The law allows the owner to control who gets it the first time, which is known as a first use.

Once it's recorded, anyone can get a compulsory license if the first recording was authorized by the copyright owner.

A compulsory license is available only for phonorecords, which is defined in the Copyright Law to mean audio only recordings.

The publisher handles these licenses, and charges whatever fee they see fit.

*Record companies hate to use, and almost never use the compulsory license, because of burdensome accounting provisions. Publishers give a direct license because they can keep track of it easier.

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[Edited 10/25/04 12:48pm]
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Reply #22 posted 10/25/04 12:16pm

Supernova

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Adisa said:

ps, what happened to your sexy avatar...please bring it back.

It was time for Ms. Grier to go. I still like what she brings to the table in terms of attitude and her take-no-shit-from-nobody stance, but I need a new one...and I haven't decided what I want yet. wink
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Reply #23 posted 10/25/04 2:24pm

Adisa

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Supernova said:

The term "compulsory license" means that you must issue a license to someone who wants to use your work, whether you like it or not.

The compulsory copyright royalty provision for records is in Section 115 of the Copyright Act. It provides that, once a song has been recorded, a copyright owner must license it: (a) to anyone else that wants to use it in a phonorecord (which is a defined term in the Copyright Act), and (b) for a specific payment established by the law.

You can get a compulsory license only if:

1. The song is a nondramatic musical work (musicals, operas); and
2. It has been previously recorded; and
3. The previous recording has been distributed publicly in phonorecords; and
4. Your use of the recording will be in phonorecords only.

All of these conditions must exist before you get a compulsory license.

You cannot get a compulsory license for the very first recording of a work. The law allows the owner to control who gets it the first time, which is known as a first use.

Once it's recorded, anyone can get a compulsory license if the first recording was authorized by the copyright owner.

A compulsory license is available only for phonorecords, which is defined in the Copyright Law to mean audio only recordings.

The publisher handles these licenses, and charges whatever fee they see fit.

*Record companies hate to use, and almost never use the compulsory license, because of burdensome accounting provisions. Publishers give a direct license because they can keep track of it easier.

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[Edited 10/25/04 12:48pm]

worship That's why you rock!! Thanks for schoolin' dunce----> me!
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Reply #24 posted 10/25/04 3:12pm

Supernova

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Adisa said:

worship That's why you rock!! Thanks for schoolin' dunce----> me!

You're not a dunce, you just didn't know. thumbs up!
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Reply #25 posted 10/25/04 5:27pm

Luv4oneanotha

lol This song , im sorry SUCKED

See the beauty of this song was the strings and the hornz
and expecially the backing vocals!
P used multiple vocal tracks, sometimes i swear i hear 4 vocal tracks

TQ just turne dthis damn song intoa regular run of the mill,...
Rnb song
Im dissapointed
I know P is pissed off, as a mug
(he has no choice to provide permission for covers)

Im sorry but thier are justs ome songs...
that shouldn't be covered
Foxy lady
Billie Jean
Ribbon in the sky
Pusher Man
Adore!
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Reply #26 posted 10/25/04 7:43pm

BlaqueKnight

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laurarichardson said:


You have got to put your crack pipe away. So day someone may re-do this song and do a good job but not this guy.





Have you even heard his version or are you just spouting opposition to my posts like you always do?
Why are you mad at T.Q.? Did he steal your candy?
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