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Zelaira

Do U Like BJORK'S NEW ALBUM?

It's so Dreamy....I like it. Very New AGEY and EXPERIMENTAL....ENYAESQUE...
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Reply #1 posted 10/12/04 1:50pm

Lennon

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nope.....
the beautiful ones, you always seem to loose
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Reply #2 posted 10/12/04 1:51pm

Raijuan

Zelaira said:

It's so Dreamy....I like it. Very New AGEY and EXPERIMENTAL....ENYAESQUE...
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Reply #3 posted 10/12/04 1:53pm

CynicKill

Unfortunately i can't say I do. I only listened to it about 1 and a half times. sad
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Reply #4 posted 10/12/04 2:19pm

Marrk

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Zelaira said:

It's so Dreamy....I like it. Very New AGEY and EXPERIMENTAL....ENYAESQUE...


Good to see you back Zelaira, can't say i'm getting into this one though! confused
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Reply #5 posted 10/12/04 2:20pm

CinisterCee

I decided to not buy it based on no reason.
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Reply #6 posted 10/12/04 2:22pm

Marrk

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CinisterCee said:

I decided to not buy it based on no reason.


That's all the reason you need! lol
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Reply #7 posted 10/12/04 2:53pm

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here's what i posted on a thread when it came out:

I'm not really digging it.... I was the one expecting to think it would be great, whereas my boyfriend was really nervous about it. But he loves it, and it just doesn't really do anything for me.


This may change, but I'm not sure. It's the difference between hearing it and not necessarily liking it, but being intrigued and finding something in it that makes me WANT to get into it, and just hearing it and not really caring all that much. Bowie and Prince albums have often come down in the former category, and now I love most of them. But this Bjork album, at this point, I'm afraid to say, falls in the latter category.

And it's not that I'm not open-minded about it, or that it's too challenging, or that I'm just "not getting it." I wanted to. I was excited about it. I thought it sounded like it could be interesting. But I'm just not feeling it. In fact, if anyone else I like had put this album out, I'd probably be saying, "That's it. It's over. (S)he's lost his/her mind. I'm done with this." But since it's Bjork, there's a certain amount of leeway I'm willing to give it, but it just doesn't interest me.

Oh, sure, I think it's an interesting concept, it's impressive sonically, and I admire her for it. I think where it falls short is in the songs themselves. There are 4 tracks that I really like a lot (Oceania, Who Is It, Triumph Of A Heart, and Desired Constellation), but the rest of it just doesn't seem like songs to me. And that's fine, if that's what she wants to put out. On all of her albums, there have been what my boyfriend calls "intermission" tracks... that are musical, even lyrical, but act as interludes rather than as songs in their own right. (You've Been Flirting Again and Frosti spring to mind immediately), but to me, this sounds like a whole bunch of those, with very few fully formed songs. Lyrically/musically half-baked, getting by on just how weird the concept of the all-vocals gimmick is. The four tracks I like are the only ones I think sound and feel like full-fledged songs, with enough meat on their bones and enough ideas to carry them out to the ends of the tracks. The rest of them just sound like interludes... and if I want an album of interludes and half-baked songs with about 4 gems to hang the rest of it on.... well, I'd just listen to DamitaJo wink


Perhaps in time, I'll grow to appreciate it more, even love it. But it's just not the sort of album that I feel like I'm ever going to be in the mood to sit down and listen to, let alone get into. At first, I was sad about that. But the more I think about it, there's nothing riding on it. It doesn't change how I feel about her past work, or put me off for future releases. At this point, though, this album just isn't for me.
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Reply #8 posted 10/12/04 2:57pm

CynicKill

Tessa said:

here's what i posted on a thread when it came out:

I'm not really digging it.... I was the one expecting to think it would be great, whereas my boyfriend was really nervous about it. But he loves it, and it just doesn't really do anything for me.


This may change, but I'm not sure. It's the difference between hearing it and not necessarily liking it, but being intrigued and finding something in it that makes me WANT to get into it, and just hearing it and not really caring all that much. Bowie and Prince albums have often come down in the former category, and now I love most of them. But this Bjork album, at this point, I'm afraid to say, falls in the latter category.

And it's not that I'm not open-minded about it, or that it's too challenging, or that I'm just "not getting it." I wanted to. I was excited about it. I thought it sounded like it could be interesting. But I'm just not feeling it. In fact, if anyone else I like had put this album out, I'd probably be saying, "That's it. It's over. (S)he's lost his/her mind. I'm done with this." But since it's Bjork, there's a certain amount of leeway I'm willing to give it, but it just doesn't interest me.

Oh, sure, I think it's an interesting concept, it's impressive sonically, and I admire her for it. I think where it falls short is in the songs themselves. There are 4 tracks that I really like a lot (Oceania, Who Is It, Triumph Of A Heart, and Desired Constellation), but the rest of it just doesn't seem like songs to me. And that's fine, if that's what she wants to put out. On all of her albums, there have been what my boyfriend calls "intermission" tracks... that are musical, even lyrical, but act as interludes rather than as songs in their own right. (You've Been Flirting Again and Frosti spring to mind immediately), but to me, this sounds like a whole bunch of those, with very few fully formed songs. Lyrically/musically half-baked, getting by on just how weird the concept of the all-vocals gimmick is. The four tracks I like are the only ones I think sound and feel like full-fledged songs, with enough meat on their bones and enough ideas to carry them out to the ends of the tracks. The rest of them just sound like interludes... and if I want an album of interludes and half-baked songs with about 4 gems to hang the rest of it on.... well, I'd just listen to DamitaJo wink


Perhaps in time, I'll grow to appreciate it more, even love it. But it's just not the sort of album that I feel like I'm ever going to be in the mood to sit down and listen to, let alone get into. At first, I was sad about that. But the more I think about it, there's nothing riding on it. It doesn't change how I feel about her past work, or put me off for future releases. At this point, though, this album just isn't for me.


Has time helped?
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Reply #9 posted 10/12/04 3:14pm

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CynicKill said:

Tessa said:

here's what i posted on a thread when it came out:

I'm not really digging it.... I was the one expecting to think it would be great, whereas my boyfriend was really nervous about it. But he loves it, and it just doesn't really do anything for me.


This may change, but I'm not sure. It's the difference between hearing it and not necessarily liking it, but being intrigued and finding something in it that makes me WANT to get into it, and just hearing it and not really caring all that much. Bowie and Prince albums have often come down in the former category, and now I love most of them. But this Bjork album, at this point, I'm afraid to say, falls in the latter category.

And it's not that I'm not open-minded about it, or that it's too challenging, or that I'm just "not getting it." I wanted to. I was excited about it. I thought it sounded like it could be interesting. But I'm just not feeling it. In fact, if anyone else I like had put this album out, I'd probably be saying, "That's it. It's over. (S)he's lost his/her mind. I'm done with this." But since it's Bjork, there's a certain amount of leeway I'm willing to give it, but it just doesn't interest me.

Oh, sure, I think it's an interesting concept, it's impressive sonically, and I admire her for it. I think where it falls short is in the songs themselves. There are 4 tracks that I really like a lot (Oceania, Who Is It, Triumph Of A Heart, and Desired Constellation), but the rest of it just doesn't seem like songs to me. And that's fine, if that's what she wants to put out. On all of her albums, there have been what my boyfriend calls "intermission" tracks... that are musical, even lyrical, but act as interludes rather than as songs in their own right. (You've Been Flirting Again and Frosti spring to mind immediately), but to me, this sounds like a whole bunch of those, with very few fully formed songs. Lyrically/musically half-baked, getting by on just how weird the concept of the all-vocals gimmick is. The four tracks I like are the only ones I think sound and feel like full-fledged songs, with enough meat on their bones and enough ideas to carry them out to the ends of the tracks. The rest of them just sound like interludes... and if I want an album of interludes and half-baked songs with about 4 gems to hang the rest of it on.... well, I'd just listen to DamitaJo wink


Perhaps in time, I'll grow to appreciate it more, even love it. But it's just not the sort of album that I feel like I'm ever going to be in the mood to sit down and listen to, let alone get into. At first, I was sad about that. But the more I think about it, there's nothing riding on it. It doesn't change how I feel about her past work, or put me off for future releases. At this point, though, this album just isn't for me.


Has time helped?



can't say it has, because i actually haven't listened to it since then. i've overheard people playing it in the house, but i haven't given it another try myself. though, the tracks i liked at first, i like even more now.
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Reply #10 posted 10/12/04 3:21pm

CinisterCee

Tessa said:

act as interludes rather than as songs in their own right. (You've Been Flirting Again and Frosti spring to mind immediately)


I love "Frosti"! That shit I play on repeat
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Reply #11 posted 10/12/04 4:06pm

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Tessa said:

here's what i posted on a thread when it came out:

I'm not really digging it.... I was the one expecting to think it would be great, whereas my boyfriend was really nervous about it. But he loves it, and it just doesn't really do anything for me.


This may change, but I'm not sure. It's the difference between hearing it and not necessarily liking it, but being intrigued and finding something in it that makes me WANT to get into it, and just hearing it and not really caring all that much. Bowie and Prince albums have often come down in the former category, and now I love most of them. But this Bjork album, at this point, I'm afraid to say, falls in the latter category.

And it's not that I'm not open-minded about it, or that it's too challenging, or that I'm just "not getting it." I wanted to. I was excited about it. I thought it sounded like it could be interesting. But I'm just not feeling it. In fact, if anyone else I like had put this album out, I'd probably be saying, "That's it. It's over. (S)he's lost his/her mind. I'm done with this." But since it's Bjork, there's a certain amount of leeway I'm willing to give it, but it just doesn't interest me.

Oh, sure, I think it's an interesting concept, it's impressive sonically, and I admire her for it. I think where it falls short is in the songs themselves. There are 4 tracks that I really like a lot (Oceania, Who Is It, Triumph Of A Heart, and Desired Constellation), but the rest of it just doesn't seem like songs to me. And that's fine, if that's what she wants to put out. On all of her albums, there have been what my boyfriend calls "intermission" tracks... that are musical, even lyrical, but act as interludes rather than as songs in their own right. (You've Been Flirting Again and Frosti spring to mind immediately), but to me, this sounds like a whole bunch of those, with very few fully formed songs. Lyrically/musically half-baked, getting by on just how weird the concept of the all-vocals gimmick is. The four tracks I like are the only ones I think sound and feel like full-fledged songs, with enough meat on their bones and enough ideas to carry them out to the ends of the tracks. The rest of them just sound like interludes... and if I want an album of interludes and half-baked songs with about 4 gems to hang the rest of it on.... well, I'd just listen to DamitaJo wink


Perhaps in time, I'll grow to appreciate it more, even love it. But it's just not the sort of album that I feel like I'm ever going to be in the mood to sit down and listen to, let alone get into. At first, I was sad about that. But the more I think about it, there's nothing riding on it. It doesn't change how I feel about her past work, or put me off for future releases. At this point, though, this album just isn't for me.



you said it sister...i posted an article here a while back on why bjork's music is so critically hailed..it came down to strong song structures.....with this album she seems more interested in the sounds than in the songs as whole pieces....

its a huge dissapointment to my ears...
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Reply #12 posted 10/12/04 4:18pm

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I think the new Bjork album is really good. I can see why people wouldn't like it though. With the exception of a few bass lines, all the music on this album is created from human voices. Rahzel sure lays down some tasty beats with his voice. Fans of Mike Patton's vocal noize (Malador, Fantomas, Patton/Rahzel) will probably really like it too. It IS a little out there for mainstream tastes though. Always give props to an artist willing to try new things and push new boundaries though.
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Reply #13 posted 10/12/04 4:30pm

Sdldawn

Zelaira said:

It's so Dreamy....I like it. Very New AGEY and EXPERIMENTAL....ENYAESQUE...



There's so much more experimental music out there thats above the game that most people dont see...

Bjorks just the tip of the iceberg
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Reply #14 posted 10/12/04 4:34pm

CinisterCee

fuzzfacefrombboard said:

I think the new Bjork album is really good. I can see why people wouldn't like it though. With the exception of a few bass lines, all the music on this album is created from human voices. Rahzel sure lays down some tasty beats with his voice. Fans of Mike Patton's vocal noize (Malador, Fantomas, Patton/Rahzel) will probably really like it too. It IS a little out there for mainstream tastes though. Always give props to an artist willing to try new things and push new boundaries though.


No that's just the thing. Everyone is all for pushing boundaries but they also want strong songs.
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Reply #15 posted 10/12/04 4:36pm

Raijuan

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No that's just the thing. Everyone is all for pushing boundaries but they also want strong songs.


Very well said clapping
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Reply #16 posted 10/12/04 6:46pm

Anxiety

it's not on heavy rotation at chez anxiety. i think i have to be in the right mood to really enjoy this album, but the thing is, i'm never in that mood.

and i have the "making of" DVD and while it made me appreciate all the skill and talent that went into the album, it didn't make me any more excited about actually having to sit through all of that artful caterwauling again.
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Reply #17 posted 10/12/04 6:47pm

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Sdldawn said:

Zelaira said:

It's so Dreamy....I like it. Very New AGEY and EXPERIMENTAL....ENYAESQUE...



There's so much more experimental music out there thats above the game that most people dont see...

Bjorks just the tip of the iceberg


like who? I need to expand my collection. smile
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Reply #18 posted 10/12/04 7:01pm

Anxiety

AnckSuNamun said:

Sdldawn said:




There's so much more experimental music out there thats above the game that most people dont see...

Bjorks just the tip of the iceberg


like who? I need to expand my collection. smile


Try listening to a band called SWANS, particularly their later work such as "Soundtracks for the Blind" and "Various Failures" - they're very experimental and intense, and they were also a huge influence on Bjork. Swans' later work is my favorite, because it's very lush and melodic, and that's when their female vocalist Jarboe joined the band, and her voice is just gorgeous.
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Reply #19 posted 10/12/04 7:03pm

VoicesCarry

Nope.
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Reply #20 posted 10/12/04 7:08pm

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I pretty much feel the way Anxy and Tessa does. I'm just not getting it and I keep thinking I'll find the right mood for it and I never do. I don't even think about putting it in anymore. sigh
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Reply #21 posted 10/12/04 7:19pm

endorphin74

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I initially was very unmoved by this album. It did finally click with me for a few weeks and I gave it many listens. Still, it's a CD that I MAKE myself put in. Granted i enjoy it once it's in, but I never think "wow, I NEED to hear Medulla"
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Reply #22 posted 10/12/04 7:26pm

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Anxiety said:

AnckSuNamun said:



like who? I need to expand my collection. smile


Try listening to a band called SWANS, particularly their later work such as "Soundtracks for the Blind" and "Various Failures" - they're very experimental and intense, and they were also a huge influence on Bjork. Swans' later work is my favorite, because it's very lush and melodic, and that's when their female vocalist Jarboe joined the band, and her voice is just gorgeous.


cool...thanks thumbs up! I found it at Emule....so I'll check them out.
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Reply #23 posted 10/12/04 8:03pm

Sdldawn

AnckSuNamun said:

Sdldawn said:




There's so much more experimental music out there thats above the game that most people dont see...

Bjorks just the tip of the iceberg


like who? I need to expand my collection. smile


There are a lot.. pitchforkmedia.com reviews those kinds of cd's all the time..
check their Best of list.. i will say this. Lately, I have disagreed with some of their latest additions.. but in the past few years.. theyve been dead on it with some artist...



what u lookin for? or interested in? electronic exprerimental? indie, pop?
rock?
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AnckSuNamun

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Sdldawn said:

AnckSuNamun said:



like who? I need to expand my collection. smile


There are a lot.. pitchforkmedia.com reviews those kinds of cd's all the time..
check their Best of list.. i will say this. Lately, I have disagreed with some of their latest additions.. but in the past few years.. theyve been dead on it with some artist...



what u lookin for? or interested in? electronic exprerimental? indie, pop?
rock?


just a mix of stuff....I'm open to anything really.
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Reply #25 posted 10/12/04 8:28pm

Anxiety

Godspeed You Black Emperor is another experimental band that I think you'd like if you like Bjork...their music is very "big" and filmic, with lots of really sprawling, long instrumentals with sound effects and samples floating in and out of them. I really really like their stuff - it's good late night listening.
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Reply #26 posted 10/12/04 9:07pm

Sdldawn

AnckSuNamun said:

Sdldawn said:



There are a lot.. pitchforkmedia.com reviews those kinds of cd's all the time..
check their Best of list.. i will say this. Lately, I have disagreed with some of their latest additions.. but in the past few years.. theyve been dead on it with some artist...



what u lookin for? or interested in? electronic exprerimental? indie, pop?
rock?


just a mix of stuff....I'm open to anything really.



Hmm.. I've been enjoyin the following.

Postal Service- Give Up (Awsme electronic glitch pop.. ben gibbard)
Mum- Finally We Are No'one (VERY Bjork inspired)
Sigur Ros- ()
Bic Runga - she's pop, but good pop
Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (possibly the greatest album to come out of the 00's)
Aqualung- Still Life
Ezekiel Honig- People Places and Things
Four Tet- Pause
Josh Rouse- Underneath The Cold Blue Stars
Radiohead Kid A (always)
Paul McCartney- Rushes (probably listed under the fireman)
Tom Mcrae- Just like blood
Thirteen Senses - The invitation
Garden State soundrack
Wicker Park soundtrack
Air- Talkie Walkie
Crescent- By The Roads and the fields
Califone- Heron King Blues
Jim Guthrie- Now More Than Ever
The Soft Pink Truth- Do you party
Sigur Ros- Tiki Baba Dido
Olivia Tremor Control
Iron and Wine- Our endless Numbered days
Ben Gibbard- Home V
Diplo- Florida
The Thrills- Lets bottle bohemia
Sleeping at last- Ghosts
Broken Social Scene- You forgot it in people
Elliot Smith- final album
Death Cab For Cutie- Transatlanticism
Thievery Corporation- The outernational sound
The Album Leaf- In a safe place



geez, thats just off the top of my head.. there are at least a hundred more i can list if u want
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Reply #27 posted 10/13/04 3:05am

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I like bits of it. But I like songs... and this time around it's like she's not really bothered to write any.
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Reply #28 posted 10/13/04 8:28am

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i think the only real flaw with it (if you can call it a flaw) is what Tessa says. that there just aren't that many SONGS on it. but that doesn't really matter. this is a very different album by a very different artist. i like it, overall, though there are moments that i don't particularly care for.
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Sdldawn said:

AnckSuNamun said:



just a mix of stuff....I'm open to anything really.



Hmm.. I've been enjoyin the following.

Postal Service- Give Up (Awsme electronic glitch pop.. ben gibbard)
Mum- Finally We Are No'one (VERY Bjork inspired)
Sigur Ros- ()
Bic Runga - she's pop, but good pop
Wilco- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (possibly the greatest album to come out of the 00's)
Aqualung- Still Life
Ezekiel Honig- People Places and Things
Four Tet- Pause
Josh Rouse- Underneath The Cold Blue Stars
Radiohead Kid A (always)
Paul McCartney- Rushes (probably listed under the fireman)
Tom Mcrae- Just like blood
Thirteen Senses - The invitation
Garden State soundrack
Wicker Park soundtrack
Air- Talkie Walkie
Crescent- By The Roads and the fields
Califone- Heron King Blues
Jim Guthrie- Now More Than Ever
The Soft Pink Truth- Do you party
Sigur Ros- Tiki Baba Dido
Olivia Tremor Control
Iron and Wine- Our endless Numbered days
Ben Gibbard- Home V
Diplo- Florida
The Thrills- Lets bottle bohemia
Sleeping at last- Ghosts
Broken Social Scene- You forgot it in people
Elliot Smith- final album
Death Cab For Cutie- Transatlanticism
Thievery Corporation- The outernational sound
The Album Leaf- In a safe place



geez, thats just off the top of my head.. there are at least a hundred more i can list if u want


These are familiar names.....but I've never really dabbled into them much. I'll check some of them out. I've been meaning to listen to Thievery Corporation...I just never got around to it. Thanks biggrin
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