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Printablegman1966 said: When you grow up that way it is going to have a effect on you, it is issues that myself and a whole lot brutha's and sista's have had to deal with all our lives. I don't care what color you are, you can be my best friend. It is just when a white guy who is captilizing off our culture to begin with does something like this, how it is possible for a black person such as myself won't like it.  : Agreed. I am glad that you brought this point up. Unfortunately, society can not see past race. It's bad to see people making mockery out of people of different races and it should not be tolerated whether on a music video or television show(The Apprentice).[Edited 10/14/04 12:27pm] | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: I think there is a lot of truth in what Rhonda said. I never, ever heard Mike mention color until he wasn't happy anymore.
as it may seem but i have a don't judge a book by its cover Complex I've examined MJ's lifestyle for quite many years (i have no life) thus i know the whole sittuation with Matolla and his "Antics" Generally i don't believe itw as right to be as forward as to shout racism, but to simply state that thier was something wrong with that sittuation but to each his own... Michael is a paranoid and arogant person i don't disagree with Rhonda i just don't believe that all that is taken at face value should be taken as concrete truth No one knows what goes through that mans head im simply saying unless you have concrete evidence that the man was doing something for a specific reason it is just mere speculation I understand Rhonda's point of view and respect it but i don't take it as truth as she might not take mines as truth, but im sure she is dignified to respect an honest opinion In terms with Michael Jackson you cannot take anything as face value cause if you do, you bring out your own ignorance if you have an interest in his life, examine it and try to seek the truth thats my opinion anyways. Afterall this is a Discussion board, as Rhonda pointed out i must admit i love cleverness as a female Characteristics 
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Hotlegs said: gman1966 said: When you grow up that way it is going to have a effect on you, it is issues that myself and a whole lot brutha's and sista's have had to deal with all our lives. I don't care what color you are, you can be my best friend. It is just when a white guy who is captilizing off our culture to begin with does something like this, how it is possible for a black person such as myself won't like it. : Agreed. I am glad that you brought this point up. Unfortunately, society can not see past race. It's bad to see people making mockery out of people of different races and it should not be tolerated whether on a music video or television show(The Apprentice).
[Edited 10/14/04 12:27pm] did Eminem make a mockery out of Mjs race or cultural or Mjs behavior. And as much as I hate to defend eminem, but is hip hop ONLY black culture? Or is it something that came out of the black and latin experience that is NOW something that is multi racial and cultural like Jazz, that comes out of a person's experience. I don't think Eminem is like a Vanilla Ice who was capitalizing on hip hop to the point of making up a story about his life. In my opinion, (that's for luv  ) There is a huge difference in how Sandy J was treated on the Apprentice or even the image of the unmanagable, too outspoken black woman that two seasons of that show has put out there VS Eminem addressing in satire Mjs BEHAVIOR.
I continue to feel that the video is tacky, etc, blah, blah, blah...but so was his other attacks on women and gays....I don't recall the removal of the video then from BET. Its very much a BS stance from BET. Understand the removal from BET wasn't about RACE, RACISM or Eminem disrespecting the "race" of Mj...it was just because of their long standing "relationship" with him. The video was played on BET only up until MJ complained so the programmers didn't find it racially charged before the complaint. am I making sense...I'm ramblin' and not being so "clever" now...
oh and Hotlegs...I'mma hit you up in the orgnotes about the apprentice...that show pisses me off. Big up for Tyra Banks for sorta addressing the "angry black woman" thing on ANTM when Eva was being "bitchy". [Edited 10/14/04 12:54pm] | |
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Rhondab said: Hotlegs said: : Agreed. I am glad that you brought this point up. Unfortunately, society can not see past race. It's bad to see people making mockery out of people of different races and it should not be tolerated whether on a music video or television show(The Apprentice).
[Edited 10/14/04 12:27pm] oh and Hotlegs...I'mma hit you up in the orgnotes about the apprentice...that show pisses me off. Big up for Tyra Banks for sorta addressing the "angry black woman" thing on ANTM when Eva was being "bitchy". Girl, I am glad you brought up the Sandy J issue b/c it needs to be discussed and brought to light. The way they did Sandy was wrong and I have stopped watching The Apprentice as a result.It was one thing when the played Amarosa. Then they turn around the next season and make it worse. And what's really funny is the same female who was dogging Sandy turned around and started talking about Jewish women and she got dimissed on air and off(fired from her real job karma is mother).The producers are supposely going to be bringing Sandy back to show. Even if they bring her back, the damage is done. There is no way in hell that they will ever catch me watching the show. Donald's true colors have been brought to the surface. Well, I must say one positive thing about Eminen. Eventhough I think he is another rapper wanna be, he definitely knows how to stir up controversey and get people reflecting on the racist acts and intolerace in society. As for my girl Tyra, I agree with you. Tyra definite set things staight when it comes down to the Black Women stereotype. I love her show and I watch it every week. I also like how they don't discriminate and give love to all women: fat, skinny, blind. However, I am concerned about the blind girl. She seems to have a brick on her shoulder by dogging Eva (jealousy) and accusing her of stealing her shit for no reason. If anything, the young blind lady should be worried about her saftey especially on the runway. I have a friend who has that disorder and I must say the blind model is really taking a risk with her health. [Edited 10/14/04 14:50pm] | |
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Hotlegs said: Rhondab said: oh and Hotlegs...I'mma hit you up in the orgnotes about the apprentice...that show pisses me off. Big up for Tyra Banks for sorta addressing the "angry black woman" thing on ANTM when Eva was being "bitchy". Girl, I am glad you brought up the Sandy J issue b/c it needs to be discussed and brought to light. The way they did Sandy was wrong and I have stopped watching The Apprentice as a result.It was one thing when the played Amarosa. Then they turn around the next season and make it worse. And what's really funny is the same female who was dogging Sandy turned around and started talking about Jewish women and she got dimissed on air and off(fired from her real job karma is mother).The producers are supposely going to be bringing Sandy back to show. Even if they bring her back, the damage is done. There is no way in hell that they will ever catch me watching the show. Donald's true colors have been brought to the surface. Well, I must say one positive thing about Eminen. Eventhough I think he is another rapper wanna be, he definitely knows how to stir up controversey and get people reflecting on the racist acts and intolerace in society. As for my girl Tyra, I agree with you. Tyra definite set things staight when it comes down to the Black Women stereotype. I love her show and I watch it every week. I also like how they don't discriminate and give love to all women: fat, skinny, blind. However, I am concerned about the blind girl. She seems to have a brick on her shoulder by dogging Eva (jealousy) and accusing her of stealing her shit for no reason. If anything, the young blind lady should be worried about her saftey especially on the runway. I have a friend who has that disorder and I must say the blind model is really taking a risk with her health. [Edited 10/14/04 14:50pm] The blind girl lost her mind when she got the make over. Eva IS competion and for some reason some folks don't like confidence in some women . Eva can be bitchy but I'm more concerned with Kelle. I want her off the show and I've written to ANTM about the horrible representation she is for younger black women and yet I loveeeee YaYa and Torrica or whatever her name is I liked the multi cultural representation on this season.
(stacie J not sandy J...my bad) ok..back to Mj and Enimem...  [Edited 10/14/04 15:06pm] | |
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Rhondab said: Hotlegs said: Girl, I am glad you brought up the Stacy J issue b/c it needs to be discussed and brought to light. The way they did Sandy was wrong and I have stopped watching The Apprentice as a result.It was one thing when the played Amarosa. Then they turn around the next season and make it worse. And what's really funny is the same female who was dogging Sandy turned around and started talking about Jewish women and she got dimissed on air and off(fired from her real job karma is mother).The producers are supposely going to be bringing Stace back to show. Even if they bring her back, the damage is done. There is no way in hell that they will ever catch me watching the show. Donald's true colors have been brought to the surface. Well, I must say one positive thing about Eminen. Eventhough I think he is another rapper wanna be, he definitely knows how to stir up controversey and get people reflecting on the racist acts and intolerace in society. As for my girl Tyra, I agree with you. Tyra definite set things staight when it comes down to the Black Women stereotype. I love her show and I watch it every week. I also like how they don't discriminate and give love to all women: fat, skinny, blind. However, I am concerned about the blind girl. She seems to have a brick on her shoulder by dogging Eva (jealousy) and accusing her of stealing her shit for no reason. If anything, the young blind lady should be worried about her saftey especially on the runway. I have a friend who has that disorder and I must say the blind model is really taking a risk with her health. [Edited 10/14/04 14:50pm] The blind girl lost her mind when she got the make over. Eva IS competion and for some reason some folks don't like confidence in some women . Eva can be bitchy but I'm more concerned with Kelle. I want her off the show and I've written to ANTM about the horrible representation she is for younger black women and yet I loveeeee YaYa and Torrica or whatever her name is I liked the multi cultural representation on this season.
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Community? In case some ignorant person comes to you with this bullshit you can tell them, they are arguing against something that has been proven, documented and factual Things Michael Jackson has done for the black community are subjected but not limited to the following: Note, he did things for my community after 1993, contrary to the ignorant notion that he only comes to the black community when hes in trouble slavey mentality shit! July 5, 1984: During the Jackson's press conference at Tavern On The Green, Michael announces that his part of the earnings from the Victory Tour will be donated to three charitable organizations: The United Negro College Fund, Camp Good Times, and the T.J. Martell-Foundation January 28, 1985: Michael and 44 other artists meet to record "We Are The World", written by Michael and Lionel Ritchie. The proceeds of this record are donated to the starving people in Africa 1986: Michael set up the "Michael Jackson UNCF Endowed Scholarship Fund". This $1.5 million fund is aimed towards students majoring in performance art and communications, with money given each year to students attending a UNCF member college or university September 13, 1987: Michael supports a campaign against racism. He supports efforts of the NAACP, to fight prejudices against black artists February 1, 1988: The Song "Man In the Mirror" enters the charts. The proceeds from the sales of this record goes to Camp Ronald McDonald for Good Times, a camp for children who suffer from cancer March 1, 1988: At a press conference held by his sponsor Pepsi, Michael presents a $600,000 check to the United Negro College Fund. April 1988: Free tickets are given away for three concerts in Atlanta, Georgia to the Make A Wish Foundation. January 1989: The proceeds of one of Michael's shows in Los Angeles are donated to Childhelp USA, the biggest charity-organization against child-abuse. In appreciation of the contributions of Michael, Childhelp of Southern California is founding the "Michael Jackson International Institute for Research On Child Abuse March 5, 1989: Michael invites 200 deprived children of the St. Vincent Institute for handicapped children and of the organization Big Brothers and Big Sisters to the Circus Vargas in Santa Barbara. After this event he invites them to his ranch to introduce his private zoo at his Neverland Ranch to them January 6, 1990: Michael invites 82 abused and neglected children through Childhelp to his Neverland Ranch. There are games, a Barbeque and a movie show provided for them. July 1990: 45 children from the Project Dream Street, Los Angeles, for children with life-threatening illness are invited to Neverland Valley. August 18, 1990: Michael invites 130 children of the YMCA summer program of Los Angeles and Santa Barbara to his Neverland Ranch. May 6, 1991: Michael is invited to the Jane Goodall Charity event. Michael supports her, an advocate of behavioral research concerning chimpanzees in Gombe, Nigeria for more than 30 years. July 26, 1991: Michael pays a visit to the Youth Sports & Art Foundation in Los Angeles. This Foundation supports families of gang members, and helps dealing with drug-abuse. Michael talks to the kids and presents them with a wide-screen TV set and a financial gift. December 1991: Michael's office MJJ Productions treats needy families in Los Angeles with more than 200 turkey dinners. February 1992: Within 11 days Michael covers 30,000 miles in Africa, to visit hospitals, orphanages, schools, churches, and institutions for mentally handicapped children. February 3, 1992: At a press conference at the New York Radio City Music Hall, Michael announces that he is planning a new world tour, to raise funds for his new "Heal The World" Foundation. This Foundation will support the fight against AIDS, Juvenile Diabetes and will support the Camp Ronald McDonald and the Make A Wish Foundation. May 6, 1992: Michael defrays the funeral-expenses for Ramon Sanchez, who was killed during the Los Angeles riots December 26, 1992: During a broadcast request for donations to the United Negro College Fund, Michael declares: "Black Colleges and Universities are breeding some of the leading personalities of our time. They are on top in business, justice, science and technologies, politics and religion. I am proud, that the Michael Jackson Scholarship Program enabled more than 200 young men and women to get a qualified education." June 1993: Michael has announced that he will donate $1.25 million for children who have suffered from the riots in Los Angeles June 10, 1993: Michael promotes the new DARE-program. The purpose of the program is to inform children about the dangers of drug abuse January 7, 1994: On the weekend of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, Michael gives a party for more than 100 underprivileged children at his Neverland Ranch. July 18, 1996: In Soweto, South Africa Michael is laying down a wreath of flowers for youngsters who have been killed during the fights involving Apartheid. September 4, 1999: Michael presented Nelson Mandela with a check for 1,000,000 South African rand for the "Nelson Mandela Children's Fund." March 6, 2001: Michael donated a black hat, a birthday phone-call and a jacket worn at the Monaco Music Awards in 2000 to the Movie Action for Children auction, an event being given by UNICEF with all proceeds will going to UNICEF's efforts to prevent mother-to-child HIV transmission in Africa. molApril 26, 1993: Within his "Heal LA" tour, Michael visits the Watta Health Foundation, and two schools in Los Angeles South Central.est those children, how come he didn't become friends with black kids and their families? Organizations The Millennium-Issue of the "Guinness Book Of Records" names Michael as the Pop Star who supports the most charity organizations. The following projects are supported by Michael Jackson: AIDS Project L.A. American Cancer Society Angel Food Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles BMI Foundation Brotherhood Crusade Brothman Burn Center Camp Ronald McDonald Childhelp U.S.A. Children's Institute International Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation Congressional Black Caucus Dakar Foundation Dreamstreet Kids Dreams Come True Charity Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation Heal The World Foundation Juvenile Diabetes Foundation Love Match Make A Wish Foundation Minority Aids Project Motown Museum NAACP National Rainbow Coalition Rotary Club of Australia Society of Singers Starlight Foundation The Carter Center's Atlanta Project The Sickle Cell Research Foundation Transafrica United Negro College Fund United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope Volunteers of America Watts Summer Festival Wish Granting YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America This is the oldest mentoring organization serving youth in the USA. BBBSA has provided one-to-one mentoring relation ...[ [url] [Edited 10/14/04 15:41pm] "Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown
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Dauphin said: Wusses
If Michael didn't want people making fun of him, he shouldn't be screwing little boys. 
[Edited 10/12/04 21:15pm] bottom line - he isnt, MJ aint Black when he pleases, hes black period, in responce to the views of others and throughout his carrer he has frequently stated he is proud and honoured to be black, and this too has not been at times when it suited him, it has been all the time. I love eminem but i dont respect or feel what hes done with this video, bottom line is because the joke goes way beyond that. If someone made a video about me with this kind of sick imagry id want it pulled too, especialy at this time, in MJ's case. dont come at me with this "well its MJ's fault for getting himself in this postion in the fist place" notion, because as far as im concerned its not - he aint doing nuthing wrong in the first place, so why should he stop living his life the way he does? because it makes people wonder? because it gives rise to Bullshit accusations - people who wonder and make such accusations are the ones who need to Stop doing what their doing and get THEIR mindes out the gutter - not michael jackson [Edited 10/14/04 15:46pm] [Edited 10/14/04 15:47pm] [b][Edited 10/14/04 17:13pm] | |
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Michael donating $$$ doesn't change my attitude about what I still view him only running to the black community when HE feels vicitimized. I never questioned his charity work.
and I don't get the "slavery mentality" comment.
I know a guy I use to work with that admitted he was racist and yet gave to the United Negro College Fund. He said he gave to the organization because he didn't want his kids going to college with "fill in the blank" so he wanted to make sure us "fill in the blank" had a school to go to...
But thanks for the listing gman.... | |
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Rhondab said: Michael donating $$$ doesn't change my attitude about what I still view him only running to the black community when HE feels vicitimized. I never questioned his charity work.
and I don't get the "slavery mentality" comment.
I know a guy I use to work with that admitted he was racist and yet gave to the United Negro College Fund. He said he gave to the organization because he didn't want his kids going to college with "fill in the blank" so he wanted to make sure us "fill in the blank" had a school to go to...
But thanks for the listing gman.... why are we still disputing this? didn't we settle this already? MJ's charitable work has nothing to do with this? the Music Video has nothing to do with race WTF IS THE BIG DEAL! ??? Am i the only one here with any sense? | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: Rhondab said: Michael donating $$$ doesn't change my attitude about what I still view him only running to the black community when HE feels vicitimized. I never questioned his charity work.
and I don't get the "slavery mentality" comment.
I know a guy I use to work with that admitted he was racist and yet gave to the United Negro College Fund. He said he gave to the organization because he didn't want his kids going to college with "fill in the blank" so he wanted to make sure us "fill in the blank" had a school to go to...
But thanks for the listing gman.... why are we still disputing this? didn't we settle this already? MJ's charitable work has nothing to do with this? the Music Video has nothing to do with race WTF IS THE BIG DEAL! ??? Am i the only one here with any sense? I think so Luv [Edited 10/15/04 4:33am] | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: PurpleCharm said: BET should pull all the other bullsh it that they show on there day after day. Hypocrits!  BET can show women being drgeaded all fucking day long and Black people making buffoons of themselves but poor defenseless Mike gets his way? Fuck BET.EXACTLY, EXACTLY, EXACTLY!!!!! BET GOT NOBODY BUT BITCHES RUNNING THAT SHIT!!! I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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gman1966 said: Someone submitted this in the forum on BlackVoices
Community? In case some ignorant person comes to you with this bullshit you can tell them, they are arguing against something that has been proven, documented and factual Things Michael Jackson has done for the black community are subjected but not limited to the following: Note, he did things for my community after 1993, contrary to the ignorant notion that he only comes to the black community when hes in trouble slavey mentality shit! July 5, 1984: During the Jackson's press conference at Tavern On The Green, Michael announces that his part of the earnings from the Victory Tour will be donated to three charitable organizations: The United Negro College Fund, Camp Good Times, and the T.J. Martell-Foundation January 28, 1985: Michael and 44 other artists meet to record "We Are The World", written by Michael and Lionel Ritchie. The proceeds of this record are donated to the starving people in Africa 1986: Michael set up the "Michael Jackson UNCF Endowed Scholarship Fund". This $1.5 million fund is aimed towards students majoring in performance art and communications, with money given each year to students attending a UNCF member college or university September 13, 1987: Michael supports a campaign against racism. He supports efforts of the NAACP, to fight prejudices against black artists February 1, 1988: The Song "Man In the Mirror" enters the charts. The proceeds from the sales of this record goes to Camp Ronald McDonald for Good Times, a camp for children who suffer from cancer March 1, 1988: At a press conference held by his sponsor Pepsi, Michael presents a $600,000 check to the United Negro College Fund. April 1988: Free tickets are given away for three concerts in Atlanta, Georgia to the Make A Wish Foundation. January 1989: The proceeds of one of Michael's shows in Los Angeles are donated to Childhelp USA, the biggest charity-organization against child-abuse. In appreciation of the contributions of Michael, Childhelp of Southern California is founding the "Michael Jackson International Institute for Research On Child Abuse March 5, 1989: Michael invites 200 deprived children of the St. Vincent Institute for handicapped children and of the organization Big Brothers and Big Sisters to the Circus Vargas in Santa Barbara. After this event he invites them to his ranch to introduce his private zoo at his Neverland Ranch to them January 6, 1990: Michael invites 82 abused and neglected children through Childhelp to his Neverland Ranch. There are games, a Barbeque and a movie show provided for them. July 1990: 45 children from the Project Dream Street, Los Angeles, for children with life-threatening illness are invited to Neverland Valley. August 18, 1990: Michael invites 130 children of the YMCA summer program of Los Angeles and Santa Barbara to his Neverland Ranch. May 6, 1991: Michael is invited to the Jane Goodall Charity event. Michael supports her, an advocate of behavioral research concerning chimpanzees in Gombe, Nigeria for more than 30 years. July 26, 1991: Michael pays a visit to the Youth Sports & Art Foundation in Los Angeles. This Foundation supports families of gang members, and helps dealing with drug-abuse. Michael talks to the kids and presents them with a wide-screen TV set and a financial gift. December 1991: Michael's office MJJ Productions treats needy families in Los Angeles with more than 200 turkey dinners. February 1992: Within 11 days Michael covers 30,000 miles in Africa, to visit hospitals, orphanages, schools, churches, and institutions for mentally handicapped children. February 3, 1992: At a press conference at the New York Radio City Music Hall, Michael announces that he is planning a new world tour, to raise funds for his new "Heal The World" Foundation. This Foundation will support the fight against AIDS, Juvenile Diabetes and will support the Camp Ronald McDonald and the Make A Wish Foundation. May 6, 1992: Michael defrays the funeral-expenses for Ramon Sanchez, who was killed during the Los Angeles riots December 26, 1992: During a broadcast request for donations to the United Negro College Fund, Michael declares: "Black Colleges and Universities are breeding some of the leading personalities of our time. They are on top in business, justice, science and technologies, politics and religion. I am proud, that the Michael Jackson Scholarship Program enabled more than 200 young men and women to get a qualified education." June 1993: Michael has announced that he will donate $1.25 million for children who have suffered from the riots in Los Angeles June 10, 1993: Michael promotes the new DARE-program. The purpose of the program is to inform children about the dangers of drug abuse January 7, 1994: On the weekend of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday, Michael gives a party for more than 100 underprivileged children at his Neverland Ranch. July 18, 1996: In Soweto, South Africa Michael is laying down a wreath of flowers for youngsters who have been killed during the fights involving Apartheid. September 4, 1999: Michael presented Nelson Mandela with a check for 1,000,000 South African rand for the "Nelson Mandela Children's Fund." March 6, 2001: Michael donated a black hat, a birthday phone-call and a jacket worn at the Monaco Music Awards in 2000 to the Movie Action for Children auction, an event being given by UNICEF with all proceeds will going to UNICEF's efforts to prevent mother-to-child HIV transmission in Africa. molApril 26, 1993: Within his "Heal LA" tour, Michael visits the Watta Health Foundation, and two schools in Los Angeles South Central.est those children, how come he didn't become friends with black kids and their families? Organizations The Millennium-Issue of the "Guinness Book Of Records" names Michael as the Pop Star who supports the most charity organizations. The following projects are supported by Michael Jackson: AIDS Project L.A. American Cancer Society Angel Food Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles BMI Foundation Brotherhood Crusade Brothman Burn Center Camp Ronald McDonald Childhelp U.S.A. Children's Institute International Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation Congressional Black Caucus Dakar Foundation Dreamstreet Kids Dreams Come True Charity Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation Heal The World Foundation Juvenile Diabetes Foundation Love Match Make A Wish Foundation Minority Aids Project Motown Museum NAACP National Rainbow Coalition Rotary Club of Australia Society of Singers Starlight Foundation The Carter Center's Atlanta Project The Sickle Cell Research Foundation Transafrica United Negro College Fund United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope Volunteers of America Watts Summer Festival Wish Granting YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America This is the oldest mentoring organization serving youth in the USA. BBBSA has provided one-to-one mentoring relation ...[ [url] [Edited 10/14/04 15:41pm] I don't think anyone was disputing that Mike gives to Black causes/charities, at least I wasn't. I stated that I never heard him mention racism until his recent troubles adn seeing that I don't follow his career that closely, I may have missed it. If we are truly going to confront racism in this country, we have got to do it on both sides because there are black as well as white racists. I personally know black people who are racist and no one white have ever done anything to them personally. If we are going to pull Em's video for 'making fun of a black man' then we've got to pull every instance where black people make fun of white people in their videos. | |
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FUCK BET>>>>>MTV too.....
you know their was a time when I enjoyed watching BET and they were good for showing groundbreaking artists.....now they are the Black equivelant of MTV...a bunch of wack ass fluff,same shit different flies. I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
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way2funky said: MJ was beloved before he started molesting children. The freak. He deserves all the fun that people make of him for the allegations against him.
Your comment sickens me. If the allegations are false (which is likely) then he doesn't deserve it at all. It's the worst thing that anybody could be falsely accused of. | |
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Mike hasnt called eminem a racist at all, but some people (like steve harvey) feel that after Em, apolagizing for calling blacks N!**@$, has been out of order in dissing one of the best black entertainers ever. The main reason is cause the diss was out of order - implying mikes a pedo, when he isnt man | |
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threat said: Mike hasnt called eminem a racist at all, but some people (like steve harvey) feel that after Em, apolagizing for calling blacks N!**@$, has been out of order in dissing one of the best black entertainers ever. The main reason is cause the diss was out of order - implying mikes a pedo, when he isnt man Even though I am inclined to believe Michael may be innocent, he himself is responsible for that implication. | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: threat said: Mike hasnt called eminem a racist at all, but some people (like steve harvey) feel that after Em, apolagizing for calling blacks N!**@$, has been out of order in dissing one of the best black entertainers ever. The main reason is cause the diss was out of order - implying mikes a pedo, when he isnt man Even though I am inclined to believe Michael may be innocent, he himself is responsible for that implication.The only thing i see wrong with the video is the vague child molesting comments Em made Personally i don't think its right to poke fun at serious charges that are occurring now it would be fine if MJ wasn't on trial but he is and thats influencing a Jury Pool, thats why i think mike is mad...(NOT ABOUT RACE) other than that... theres really nothing wrong with the video Humour is the spice of life LAUGH YOU CONSERVATIVE BASTARDS! lol | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: Rhondab said: Michael donating $$$ doesn't change my attitude about what I still view him only running to the black community when HE feels vicitimized. I never questioned his charity work.
and I don't get the "slavery mentality" comment.
I know a guy I use to work with that admitted he was racist and yet gave to the United Negro College Fund. He said he gave to the organization because he didn't want his kids going to college with "fill in the blank" so he wanted to make sure us "fill in the blank" had a school to go to...
But thanks for the listing gman.... why are we still disputing this? didn't we settle this already? MJ's charitable work has nothing to do with this? the Music Video has nothing to do with race WTF IS THE BIG DEAL! ??? Am i the only one here with any sense? Right on all counts, but to me, The Big Deal is someone being accused, disrespected and publicly humiliated for a harsh accusation that still hasn't been proved true. Famous or not. They did WHAT??!.... 
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boriquateddy said: FUCK BET>>>>>MTV too.....
you know their was a time when I enjoyed watching BET and they were good for showing groundbreaking artists.....now they are the Black equivelant of MTV...a bunch of wack ass fluff,same shit different flies. Yep.They did WHAT??!....
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kiss85 said: Luv4oneanotha said: why are we still disputing this? didn't we settle this already? MJ's charitable work has nothing to do with this? the Music Video has nothing to do with race WTF IS THE BIG DEAL! ??? Am i the only one here with any sense? Right on all counts, but to me, The Big Deal is someone being accused, disrespected and publicly humiliated for a harsh accusation that still hasn't been proved true. Famous or not. I understand and feel the same way? but c'mon the video was depicting HARSH OUTRAGEOUS DISRESPECT have you ever seen skits by SNL and MAD T.V. those are FARRRRR worst Comments by jay leno are FAARRRRR harsher... mj's never said crap about those guys? why? cause its Parody, its made to be funny some how because its music, its not made to be funny? be serious? C'mon now MJ just having a hissy fit | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Even though I am inclined to believe Michael may be innocent, he himself is responsible for that implication.
The only thing i see wrong with the video is the vague child molesting comments Em made Personally i don't think its right to poke fun at serious charges that are occurring now it would be fine if MJ wasn't on trial but he is and thats influencing a Jury Pool, thats why i think mike is mad...(NOT ABOUT RACE) other than that... theres really nothing wrong with the video Humour is the spice of life LAUGH YOU CONSERVATIVE BASTARDS! lol No way is the jury NOT tampered by now. | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Luv4oneanotha said: The only thing i see wrong with the video is the vague child molesting comments Em made Personally i don't think its right to poke fun at serious charges that are occurring now it would be fine if MJ wasn't on trial but he is and thats influencing a Jury Pool, thats why i think mike is mad...(NOT ABOUT RACE) other than that... theres really nothing wrong with the video Humour is the spice of life LAUGH YOU CONSERVATIVE BASTARDS! lol No way is the jury NOT tampered by now. Thats assuming, you never know! | |
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I think I'mma need some Jesus juice after reading this thread...  | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: kiss85 said: Right on all counts, but to me, The Big Deal is someone being accused, disrespected and publicly humiliated for a harsh accusation that still hasn't been proved true. Famous or not. I understand and feel the same way? but c'mon the video was depicting HARSH OUTRAGEOUS DISRESPECT have you ever seen skits by SNL and MAD T.V. those are FARRRRR worst Comments by jay leno are FAARRRRR harsher... mj's never said crap about those guys? why? cause its Parody, its made to be funny some how because its music, its not made to be funny? be serious? C'mon now MJ just having a hissy fit I guess it's because MJ respected Eminem. He was invited to MJ's 30th ann. concerts, and Em said somewhere that Invincible was the best album of 2001. He probably didnt expect such a thing | |
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Rhondab said: I think I'mma need some Jesus juice after reading this thread...
LMFAO haha | |
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Rhondab said: I think I'mma need some Jesus juice after reading this thread...  | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: kiss85 said: Right on all counts, but to me, The Big Deal is someone being accused, disrespected and publicly humiliated for a harsh accusation that still hasn't been proved true. Famous or not. MJ just having a hissy fit Rightfully so | |
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Well from what I understand Em doesn't have much of a black following so him getting pulled from BET probably isn't even a big deal to him. It's probably why his "racist" rap he made a long time ago didn't leave a mark on him. To be honest this is only a controversy amongst orgers and forum fanatics. I don't really see any outrage anywhere else. Looks like it's indeed a "white thang". |
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