Rhondab said:

End of discussion!

Rhondab said:

After some thinking, i think i agree about the race issue. Having said that i suspect if MJ still looked like he did in 1980, you might be saying something else what really bothers me is that Eminem deems child molestation fair subject matter for a joke, whether MJ is guilty or not, that doesn't sit well with me.

TheRealFiness said:

"man pleeeeease.." hell. There was one time MJ was beloved in our community, despite all the stupid things he has done ie..the mutilation of his face..etc...there is still some loyalty to MJ as being a black man. Yes as a black man I am going to be sensitive to some over-hyped, culture-stealing white boy making fun of MJ or any black person. I think the video is stupid and out of line period....

way2funky said:

"Why does it matter that it's a blue-eyed white boy doing a parody against a black man? Would the video be OK"

"By the way, I'm a blue-eyed white boy too. :lol"

That explains it that is from a white boy point of view.....

gman1966 said:

gman1966 said:

Explains what? I asked you a question. I didn't give a point of view. Shows how intelligent you are.

There are discussions of this at African-American sites like BlackVoices.com and believe me there are not a lot of positives reaction to this video!!!

way2funky said:

Dude, if you think I am going to get in a online debate with your stupid ass as to why a black person could be offended by this, you got another thing coming!!!
[Edited 10/13/04 13:16pm]

gman1966 said:

MJ was beloved before he started molesting children. The freak. He deserves all the fun that people make of him for the allegations against him. Would it be any different if the people on SNL did a skit about MJ? I think you are just mad at the fact that it's a white guy doing it. You sound pretty prejudice to me. The fact that you made it about race in the first place tells me that.

gman1966 said:

You shouldn't post your opinion in a forum where discussion is encouraged than dumb ass!

way2funky said:

Whatever!!!

gman1966 said:

Glad to see living proof that you are keeping racism alive and well in America.

You say "there is still some loyalty to MJ as being a black man"...

So he can be a child molester, but its ok if he's black? Or you cut him loose from his black roots when he crosses a line you decide on?

SquirrelMeat said:

True that.

SquirrelMeat said:

"I'm keeping racism live and well in America" How easy for white people to say that when they never experienced it...lol That always cracked me up...Come on down to the South baby!!! Go to Jasper, Texas where it is 30 miles from where I grew up and ask James Byrd that (The black man who was dragged to death because he was black!!!)..but that is a whole different issue.

I'm done I am not going to be debating with white people on how a black person COULD be sensitive to this issue.

MJ is child molester, well that has not been proven yet!!! Again a whole different issue.

gman1966 said:

White people don't experience racism when we have people like you always trying to hold race against us? That cracks me up. I never did anything to James Byrd or any black person for that matter...but that is a whole different issue. It's people like you that make our society the way it is. I feel sorry for you.

way2funky said:

I am so hurt that you feel sorry for me!!!

gman1966 said:

I can have compassion for a person of another race unlike you. I am smart enough to know that we all are one race. The Human Race.

way2funky said:

That's wonderful!!!

way2funky said:

Let me say this, don't even know why I am saying it. I grew up in Beaumont, Texas which is very near the Louisian border. Growing up in the late 60's and 70's I saw complete total segregation.

For example playing football on a all black team and traveling to play a all-white team, our bus is pelted by rocks but we never did that if that team was coming to our home stadium all we wanted to do is kick their asses fair and square on the football field.

When you grow up that way it is going to have a effect on you, it is issues that myself and a whole lot brutha's and sista's have had to deal with all our lives. I don't care what color you are, you can be my best friend. It is just when a white guy who is captilizing off our culture to begin with does something like this, how it is possible for a black person such as myself won't like it.

gman1966 said:

something like this? first of all, he's not black. second, he's being made fun of for his extreme plastic surgery and child fetishes.

GrayKing said:

Come on GrayKing that's a stupid thing to say, you know's he is black. Believe me I am very, very dissapointed in Michael Jackson. The way he took away his African-American features, the molestation charges. This is not the handsome brutha I grew up with.....

gman1966 said:

I grew up as a white kid in an all black neighborhood and was picked on quite a bit by black people but I don't let that affect my view of blacks. Why do you think I listen to groups like EPMD, Rakim, BDP...etc. I would have never been exposed to it had I grown up in the suburbs. It's not like that music was played on the radio.

So should white people get mad when blacks mimic Vanilla Ice? No. I can see how people in general can take offense to Eminem. But to say that only blacks can be sensitive to that issue is plain ignorant. I'm sorry you had to deal with the things you dealt with growing up but that should just make you want to change your views even more. Segregation is wrong and being you lived with it you should be talking about changing that view point and not sticking with it.

Just my thoughts.

gman1966 said:

yes, but you're acting like he's being made fun of because he's black. that simply isn't the case. he's being made fun of for being a freak and an accused child molestor. race is about the last thing that comes into play when one pokes fun of Michael Jackson (except for the fact that he doesn't look like the same person anymore), no matter how many times in the last few years he's tried to play that card (with Tommy Mottolla and the latest round of molestation charges).

but hey, i can understand people being outraged by Eminem. but it's funny how everything was hunky dory when he was just degrading women and gays. then again, you don't see anyone screaming bloody murder "how dare he make fun of a white woman!" for his comic portrayal of Madonna in the video.

way2funky said:

When you come back to the real world let me know...

GrayKing said:

I liked the part when he made fun of Madonna

gman1966 said:

me too.

gman1966 said:

Whatever... Keep on with your racist attitude and see where that gets you in life.

I can't wait for Eminem's next album when he does another video about MJ getting doinked in prison after he's found guilty of child molestation.


[Edited 10/13/04 14:38pm]

way2funky said:

Hey Playa...Whatever floats your boat... Just keep it real!!!

I'm sure Eminem will keep it real as he capitalizes even more off your culture as you say. I suppose you don't like The Beastie Boys either since they are white people capitalizing off your culture. How bout 3rd Bass?

way2funky said:

Whatever you say Playa!!! I have to admit...I did liked 3rd Bass....lol (Our reaction at college to them was damn, those white boys are jammin!!!)