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PrintableUniversaluv said: Shapeshifter said: Put it in context: if he was relating something he thought about in his early childhood, you can hardly blame him. Weren't you young too once, Laura?  Exactly, I mean who here hasn't licked the lipstick off their mother's coffee cup and wished to marry her when they were kids? 
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Hotlegs said: Universaluv said: Exactly, I mean who here hasn't licked the lipstick off their mother's coffee cup and wished to marry her when they were kids?
Now that's some deep shit. Paging Dr Freud ... There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: laurarichardson said: ----- I am not referring to his world audience. I am refereing to his core audience in the U.S. One cd going to number one on Billboard does not make you a pop artist. He got that number one due to the pedophile charges and the overall low CD sales. Teena Marie had a CD land in the top ten of Billbord and she is still a RnB artist. You'll find, if you check, that R Kelly has had consistent US pop/mainstream Top 10 and Top 20 success since 1992. He's also had more than just the one CD go to number one. Read on ... Remember "12 Play"? Went sextuple platinum in the US. "Bump N Grind" topped the Billboard Hot 100 for ten weeks. That was in 1994. By the end of that year details about his relationship with Alliyah came out ... 1996: "R Kelly" topped the Billboard album pop charts for two weeks. Eventually went quadruple platinum in the US. "You Remind Me Of Something" and "Down Low" were both Top 10 pop hits. He was also number one for seven weeks in the Billboard pop charts with "I Believe I Can Fly". 1998: "R" went quintuple platinum. Topped the Billboard album charts for a week .... It goes on and on. Plenty of Billboard Top 10s, several Number 1s. In short, he has had plenty of pop hits - even if he is an R n B artist. [Edited 10/13/04 7:32am] ----- R Kelly will always be a RnB artist. His music is RnB not pop and the vast majority of people buying his crap would be black people. | |
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jolajeph said: I think R Kelly has made some good contributions to music over the years & I think that ppl should judge him on facts not on newspaper reports & FX edited internet mpegs. We live in sad times when it seems so much easier to hate on ppl than look at their positives.
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Universaluv said: Shapeshifter said: Put it in context: if he was relating something he thought about in his early childhood, you can hardly blame him. Weren't you young too once, Laura? Exactly, I mean who here hasn't licked the lipstick off their mother's coffee cup and wished to marry her when they were kids? Ye who cast the first stone!!
[Edited 10/13/04 8:49am] ----- Those of us who are not mental !!! (LoL) | |
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laurarichardson said: Universaluv said: Exactly, I mean who here hasn't licked the lipstick off their mother's coffee cup and wished to marry her when they were kids? Ye who cast the first stone!! ----- Those of us who are not mental !!! (LoL) Thank you! | |
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goat2004 said: TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: The R was on Dateline last night and it was the first time I actually heard him admit to the Aaliyah marriage. He skirted the rest of the questions like I suspected he would. What I don't get about his fans is how, with them knowing about him being 27 marrying someone 15, they still support this guy.
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tommysoul said: all the greatest musicians are nutcases. r kelly is a musical genius but he is also a pervert. the funny thing that people don't seem to remember is that elvis "the king" presley married pricilla when she was like 14-15 and jerry lee lewis married his 13 year old cousin. no one seem to think any less of them today. wonder what people will think about r kelly in 20 years. one of the greatest songwriters of the decade, or a pervert sleeping with young girls? Right.
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jolajeph said: I think R Kelly has made some good contributions to music over the years & I think that ppl should judge him on facts not on newspaper reports & FX edited internet mpegs. We live in sad times when it seems so much easier to hate on ppl than look at their positives. Okay, I'll judge him on facts: He married Aaliyah when she was 15 and he was 27. He's a fucked up nutcase. | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: tommysoul said: all the greatest musicians are nutcases. r kelly is a musical genius but he is also a pervert. the funny thing that people don't seem to remember is that elvis "the king" presley married pricilla when she was like 14-15 and jerry lee lewis married his 13 year old cousin. no one seem to think any less of them today. wonder what people will think about r kelly in 20 years. one of the greatest songwriters of the decade, or a pervert sleeping with young girls? Right.
well, the former is out of the question, so that leaves what we already know "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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