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Thread started 08/19/04 8:52pm

heartbeatocean

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What is New Wave?

What are the characteristics of 80's New Wave? What are the definitive bands that represent this movement? Where is the line drawn between New Wave, Alternative, and Punk and other so-called categories?

A few guesses:

synthesizers
Flock of Seagulls
hairdos and eye makeup

I'm not being very articulate here. Please explain...
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Reply #1 posted 08/19/04 9:03pm

Anxiety

it's cool, but not as cool as no-wave. mr.green
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Reply #2 posted 08/19/04 9:21pm

GangstaFam

New Wave is a catch all like "alternative" was in the 90's.

I tend to think of it a little more specifically though. You can lump anything slightly angular, punky and underground from about '77 to '84 into the new wave category. But I don't.

Punk is the harsh, abrasive guitar driven bratty stuff a la The Sex Pistols.

Post-Punk is the dark, moody expressive aftermath. See Joy Division and The Cure.

New Wave is a brighter, catchier, more danceable variation on the 2. Blondie and The Cars come to mind.

Synth Pop is an offshoot where guitars are rarely involved. Colder, robotic shit like Gary Numan and Depeche Mode.

No Wave is impossible to describe.
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Reply #3 posted 08/19/04 9:23pm

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http://80music.about.com/...060698.htm

http://www.wordiq.com/def...Wave_music
[This message was edited Thu Aug 19 21:28:11 2004 by VinaBlue]
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Reply #4 posted 08/19/04 10:05pm

HrdwcH

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Ask Andre Cymone smile
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Reply #5 posted 08/19/04 10:07pm

HrdwcH

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Or... The Time, cuz they don't like it!!!!
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Reply #6 posted 08/20/04 12:56am

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allmusic.com defines:
During the late '70s and early '80s, New Wave was a catch-all term for the music that directly followed punk rock; often, the term encompassed punk itself, as well. In retrospect, it's became clear that the music that followed punk could be divided, more or less, into two categories — post-punk and new wave. Where post-punk was arty, difficult, and challenging, new wave was pop music, pure and simple. It retained the fresh vigor and irreverence of punk music, as well as a fascination with electronics, style, and art. Therefore, there was a lot of stylistic diversity to new wave. It meant the nervy power pop of bands like XTC and Nick Lowe, but it also meant synth rockers like Gary Numan or rock revivalists like Graham Parker and Rockpile. There were edgy new wave songwriters like Elvis Costello, pop bands like Squeeze, tough rock & rollers like the Pretenders, pop-reggae like the Police, mainstream rockers like the Cars, and ska revivalists like the Specials and Madness. As important as these major artists were, there were also countless one-hit wonders that emerged during early new wave. These one-hit groups were as diverse as the major artists, but they all shared a love of pop hooks, modernist, synthesized production, and a fascination for being slightly left of center. By the early '80s, new wave described nearly every new pop/rock artist, especially those that used synthesizers like the Human League and Duran Duran. New wave received a boost in the early '80s by MTV, who broadcast endless hours of new wave videos in order to keep themselves on the air. Therefore, new wave got a second life in 1982, when it probably would have died out. Instead, 1982 and 1983 were boom years for polished, MTV-radio new wave outfits like Culture Club, Adam Ant, Spandau Ballet, Haircut 100, and A Flock of Seagulls. New wave finally died out in 1984, when established artists began to make professional videos and a new crop of guitar-oriented bands like the Smiths and R.E.M. emerged to capture the attention of college-radio and underground rock fans. Nevertheless, new wave proved more influential than many of its critics would have suspected, as the mid-'90s were dominated by bands — from Blur to Weezer — that were raised on the music.
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Reply #7 posted 08/20/04 1:52am

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ok ..where the hell is NWF when u need him! smile
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Reply #8 posted 08/20/04 9:31am

heartbeatocean

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VinaBlue said:

http://80music.about.com/library/weekly/aa060698.htm

http://www.wordiq.com/def...Wave_music
[This message was edited Thu Aug 19 21:28:11 2004 by VinaBlue]


This is fascinating. Thank you.
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Reply #9 posted 08/20/04 9:33am

heartbeatocean

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Mazerati said:

ok ..where the hell is NWF when u need him! smile


Yes. NWF is the one who got me started on this. confused smile
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Reply #10 posted 08/20/04 12:24pm

Anxiety

GangstaFam said:


No Wave is impossible to describe.


which reminds me, i still gotta help you out on that. nod
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Reply #11 posted 08/20/04 1:09pm

heartbeatocean

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What the hell is No Wave? Shall I start a new thread?
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Reply #12 posted 08/20/04 4:22pm

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nevermind. already been said edit
[This message was edited Fri Aug 20 16:22:44 2004 by HelloKittyIsMyFriend]
rose Four strings across the bridge. Ready to carry me over,Over the quavers, drunk in the bars,Out of the realm of the orchestra rose kitty
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Reply #13 posted 08/20/04 7:41pm

NWF

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Y'all looking for me? big grin
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #14 posted 08/20/04 7:49pm

NWF

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OK, it's real simple:

Punk begat Post-Punk

Post-Punk begat New Wave

New Wave begat New Romantic and Synth-Pop

Synth-Pop begat New Pop

New Pop begat Alternative Pop/Rock

Alternative Pop/Rock begat Grunge

Grunge begat Post-Rock

.....and then there are the subgenres in between that. But to be honest, I'm too fucking lazy to go into details.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #15 posted 08/21/04 10:22am

heartbeatocean

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School's in. geek
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Reply #16 posted 08/21/04 10:30am

heartbeatocean

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I like this:

As fashion, there were two major components of "New wave" dress. First, there was an eclectic revivalism. Paisley prints (from the 1960's), very thin neckties and pleats (from the 1940s), and simple colors were one part. The other part was a desire to embrace contemporary synthetic materials as a protest and celebration of "plastic." This involved the use of spandex, shocking colors, and mass-produced (or apparently mass-produced) and tawdry ornaments. Men's and women's fashions thus split from one another dramatically, and men wearing spandex and bright colors were ridiculed (and became emblematic of the mass marketing of "new wave" in department stores). As a fashion movement, then, New Wave was both a post-modern belief in creative pastiche and a continuation of Pop Art's satire and fascination with manufacturing.

targetsuperman kfc pepsitarget----cool
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Reply #17 posted 08/21/04 10:40am

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OK. After extensive research and to make amends for offending NWF, I must say there are many New Wave bands that I liked in the 80's and still like:

ABC
B-52's
Bow Wow Wow
The Cars
Cheap Trick (had no idea they were considered New Wave)
The Cure
Devo
Eurythmics
The Knack
The Motels
New Order
Oingo Boingo
The Police
The Pretenders (New Wave?)
Psychadelic Furs
The Ramones (New Wave?)
R.E.M.
Soft Cell
Talking Heads
Talk Talk
The The
Violent Femmes



these were on the official list of New Wave bands
http://www.wordiq.com/def...Wave_music
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Reply #18 posted 09/19/04 3:01pm

NWF

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More New Wave bands:

Duran Duran
Scritti Politti
Adam And The Ants
Human League
Gang of Four
INXS
The Suburbs
The Smiths
Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Lene Lovich
Culture Club
Erasure
Joy Division
Dexy's Midnight Runners
The Associates
Josie Cotton
Split Enz
Yaz
Japan
Felony
Magazine
APB
The Waitresses
Heaven 17
Romeo Void
Madness
U2 (yes, they're New Wave)
The Specials
Elvis Costello & The Attractions
Ultravox
.....and many more.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #19 posted 09/19/04 8:57pm

heartbeatocean

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NWF said:

More New Wave bands:

Duran Duran
Scritti Politti
Adam And The Ants
Human League
Gang of Four
INXS
The Suburbs
The Smiths
Frankie Goes To Hollywood
Lene Lovich
Culture Club
Erasure
Joy Division
Dexy's Midnight Runners
The Associates
Josie Cotton
Split Enz
Yaz
Japan
Felony
Magazine
APB
The Waitresses
Heaven 17
Romeo Void
Madness
U2 (yes, they're New Wave)
The Specials
Elvis Costello & The Attractions
Ultravox
.....and many more.



THE SMITHS!!!!

Other than that, I'm not a big fan of these bands though I think Romeo Void was ok. How about NEW ORDER? I like them.
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