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Thread started 09/02/04 6:58am

VinaBlue

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What is it about b-sides?

Is it me or do they always sound MUCH BETTER than most of the songs on the main cd release? Why is that? Is it because they are treasures that you only get if you buy the single? Do you think if you switched the b-side with an album track it would change how you feel about both songs? Would it make the album better?
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Reply #1 posted 09/02/04 7:29am

Chico1

I agree. I've bought many singles based on the b-side. Some artists have so many, they; particularly from 1 album that they should just release a second one or a double disc. LOL
But I guess that's part of what boosts the singles sales. Speaking of which....I can't believe I havent picked up the Cure's 'dots' b sides and rarities yet. duh

Funny how sometimes they view it as a 'throw away' track, or not thinking it fits on the album. But fans think the opposite. I've made my own cd of b-sides from a couple of my favourite artists and think.. 'damn. this album should actually be released!' lol
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Reply #2 posted 09/02/04 7:31am

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giggle great signature btw Vina. just noticed it. hmmm i may have to 'borrow' that...with a little alteration done to it. wink
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Reply #3 posted 09/02/04 7:39am

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VinaBlue said:

Is it me or do they always sound MUCH BETTER than most of the songs on the main cd release? Why is that? Is it because they are treasures that you only get if you buy the single? Do you think if you switched the b-side with an album track it would change how you feel about both songs? Would it make the album better?



Duran Duran's MAKE ME SMILE - b-side to the Reflex is a great example. I may be in the minority here but this song for years has always made my head bop around....

MIRROR MIRROR, b- side to Stevie Nicks's Blue Denim (1994). THe song MIRROR MIRROR was actaully recorded for her 1985 ROCK A LITTLE ALBUM and it is one of her most intense, angry songs...very popular with die-hard Stevie fans. We all wonder how this song got dropped from the ROCK A LITTLE album and randomly resurfaced as a B-side 9 years later!
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Reply #4 posted 09/02/04 7:52am

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B-sides are usually cool because it's something the artist wants to release, but knows deep down that it won't do well commercially (because most commercial music is made for 13 year old girls... it's true unfortunately!). Hence, the B-side is the perfect option. It gives the listener the opportunity to listen to something a little different, and hopefully, this will turn them on to what the artist is really all about.
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Reply #5 posted 09/02/04 7:55am

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Chico1 said:

giggle great signature btw Vina. just noticed it. hmmm i may have to 'borrow' that...with a little alteration done to it. wink


Things go better with Manolo Escobar ? hmmm Mmmm, I don't know.
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Reply #6 posted 09/02/04 8:13am

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PANDURITO said:

Chico1 said:

giggle great signature btw Vina. just noticed it. hmmm i may have to 'borrow' that...with a little alteration done to it. wink


Things go better with Manolo Escobar ? hmmm Mmmm, I don't know.



falloff lol

Didn't think of that one.... hmmm
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Reply #7 posted 09/02/04 8:16am

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toejam said:

B-sides are usually cool because it's something the artist wants to release, but knows deep down that it won't do well commercially (because most commercial music is made for 13 year old girls... it's true unfortunately!). Hence, the B-side is the perfect option. It gives the listener the opportunity to listen to something a little different, and hopefully, this will turn them on to what the artist is really all about.


Good points. However a song doesn't have to be commercial to be on the album, it just can't be a single. Maybe I'm wrong, or I just don't think like record companies do, because they make these kinda decisions.
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Reply #8 posted 09/02/04 8:25am

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Chico1 said:

I agree. I've bought many singles based on the b-side. Some artists have so many, they; particularly from 1 album that they should just release a second one or a double disc. LOL
But I guess that's part of what boosts the singles sales. Speaking of which....I can't believe I havent picked up the Cure's 'dots' b sides and rarities yet. duh

Funny how sometimes they view it as a 'throw away' track, or not thinking it fits on the album. But fans think the opposite. I've made my own cd of b-sides from a couple of my favourite artists and think.. 'damn. this album should actually be released!' lol


I just bought some Bjork singles for b-sides like "Domestica" and "Scary", both very amazing songs, which sparked this thread. Do you still have that Tori double disc of Under the Pink with the Bee Sides? giggle

The "throw away" track thing, (not fitting with the rest of the cd) is something I thought of too. Maybe it just didn't flow well with the rest of the album? So then it becomes a b-side, that makes sense. I made a Duran Duran b-side cd and it's soooo amazing to hear the "other side" of Duran Duran. Narud Narud?
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Reply #9 posted 09/02/04 8:27am

Chico1

VinaBlue said:

Do you still have that Tori double disc of Under the Pink with the Bee Sides? giggle



No. I threw it away. razz


giggle



wink Yes I still have it. Why? hmmm
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Reply #10 posted 09/02/04 8:30am

Chico1

eek oooooh. Vina, I could make you a Bangin' Britney b-sides album too. nod
Or a Britney-Björk-Tori b-sides. All three of your favourites on one disc. Heaven. drool




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Reply #11 posted 09/02/04 8:53am

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Chico1 said:

eek oooooh. Vina, I could make you a Bangin' Britney b-sides album too. nod
Or a Britney-Björk-Tori b-sides. All three of your favourites on one disc. Heaven. drool




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Reply #12 posted 09/02/04 8:55am

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Chico1 said:

VinaBlue said:

Do you still have that Tori double disc of Under the Pink with the Bee Sides? giggle



No. I threw it away. razz


giggle



wink Yes I still have it. Why? hmmm


Silly, I already copied it from you! I mean that's a good example of an album made up of b-sides. wink

Britney never did anything like that! hmph!
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Reply #13 posted 09/02/04 9:00am

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What other aritsts, besides Prince, are known for their b-sides? confuse
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purplegypsy said:


Duran Duran's MAKE ME SMILE - b-side to the Reflex is a great example. I may be in the minority here but this song for years has always made my head bop around....

Make me Smile is a live cover though. I like the song too, it brings back memories and "makes me smile". biggrin But, it wouldn't have fit on 7 & the Ragged Tiger. That album is a little watered down to begin with... Oooh, see, Secret Oktober could have made that album better. Or at least they could have gone more in that direction on the album. There are a couple of other outtakes from that time as well. I remember them saying they kinda worked that album to the ground and the Reflex especially was brought back to life by Nile Rodgers when he remixed it for the single.

eek Duranie tangent!
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Reply #15 posted 09/02/04 9:03am

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okaypimpn said:

What other aritsts, besides Prince, are known for their b-sides? confuse

Duran Duran, Bjork and Tori Amos almost always have groovy bsides.
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Reply #16 posted 09/02/04 10:37am

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THe Minogues normally have killer b-sides as well
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Reply #17 posted 09/02/04 11:20am

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okaypimpn said:

What other aritsts, besides Prince, are known for their b-sides? confuse



Last year I made a comp of every Tori Amos b-side and non-album track (from soundtracks and various artists collections) and it was over three hours long. And that's not including the live non-album tracks.

The Cure just recently released a 4CD box set of mostly b-sides. Many of them are quite good.

During the 80s, every Siouxsie And The Banshees single had not one, but two b-sides. They are currently being remastered and collected for re-release.
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Reply #18 posted 09/02/04 12:26pm

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VinaBlue said:

purplegypsy said:


Duran Duran's MAKE ME SMILE - b-side to the Reflex is a great example. I may be in the minority here but this song for years has always made my head bop around....

Make me Smile is a live cover though. I like the song too, it brings back memories and "makes me smile". biggrin But, it wouldn't have fit on 7 & the Ragged Tiger. That album is a little watered down to begin with... Oooh, see, Secret Oktober could have made that album better. Or at least they could have gone more in that direction on the album. There are a couple of other outtakes from that time as well. I remember them saying they kinda worked that album to the ground and the Reflex especially was brought back to life by Nile Rodgers when he remixed it for the single.

eek Duranie tangent!


I just love the live version of it...and think it would have made a great song to actually record in the studio and if so i think it may have fit well on the DD or RIO record...of course I can't think of any songs that MADE the cut on all the DD albums that were covers or weren't written by all/come of the band members...

BY the way Vina i love your Duranie tangents! Keep em coming!
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Reply #19 posted 09/02/04 1:07pm

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purplegypsy said:

VinaBlue said:


Make me Smile is a live cover though. I like the song too, it brings back memories and "makes me smile". biggrin But, it wouldn't have fit on 7 & the Ragged Tiger. That album is a little watered down to begin with... Oooh, see, Secret Oktober could have made that album better. Or at least they could have gone more in that direction on the album. There are a couple of other outtakes from that time as well. I remember them saying they kinda worked that album to the ground and the Reflex especially was brought back to life by Nile Rodgers when he remixed it for the single.

eek Duranie tangent!


I just love the live version of it...and think it would have made a great song to actually record in the studio and if so i think it may have fit well on the DD or RIO record...of course I can't think of any songs that MADE the cut on all the DD albums that were covers or weren't written by all/come of the band members...

BY the way Vina i love your Duranie tangents! Keep em coming!



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Duran Duran have always written their own material. "Thank You" was their cover cd, and Power Station covered Bang a Gong. I think that's it.
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Reply #20 posted 09/02/04 2:02pm

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VinaBlue said:

purplegypsy said:



I just love the live version of it...and think it would have made a great song to actually record in the studio and if so i think it may have fit well on the DD or RIO record...of course I can't think of any songs that MADE the cut on all the DD albums that were covers or weren't written by all/come of the band members...

BY the way Vina i love your Duranie tangents! Keep em coming!



mr.green

Duran Duran have always written their own material. "Thank You" was their cover cd, and Power Station covered Bang a Gong. I think that's it.


Power Station also covered "Harvest for the World" - Andy's guitar rocks the song out...(Isley Brothers did the original I think?)
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Reply #21 posted 09/02/04 9:00pm

Chico1

VinaBlue said:

Chico1 said:




No. I threw it away. razz


giggle



wink Yes I still have it. Why? hmmm


Silly, I already copied it from you! I mean that's a good example of an album made up of b-sides. wink

Britney never did anything like that! hmph!


Oh yeah? mad Well.....uh..yeah..errrrr....


oh yeah!?!?! mad
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Reply #22 posted 09/02/04 9:18pm

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I just think having a b-side is more of a exciment cause ure getting more than what they offered on the lp, and its like an addition to the music they already offered.


dunno.. if the b side was on the lp, u wouldnt tell the difference..
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Reply #23 posted 09/02/04 9:32pm

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Chico1 said:

VinaBlue said:



Silly, I already copied it from you! I mean that's a good example of an album made up of b-sides. wink

Britney never did anything like that! hmph!


Oh yeah? mad Well.....uh..yeah..errrrr....


oh yeah!?!?! mad



You've been eating onions!


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Reply #24 posted 09/02/04 9:35pm

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You've been eating onions! lol



haaaaaooooowwwww did youuuuu guess!!? biggrin
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Reply #25 posted 09/02/04 9:40pm

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Chico1 said:

VinaBlue said:

You've been eating onions! lol



haaaaaooooowwwww did youuuuu guess!!? biggrin


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Reply #26 posted 09/02/04 10:34pm

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okaypimpn said:

What other aritsts, besides Prince, are known for their b-sides? confuse

If memory serves me the Beatles had some really big songs that were b-sides....unfortunately I can't remember which ones at the moment.
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Reply #27 posted 09/02/04 11:21pm

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PJ Harvey has put out a steady and, I might add, stunning batch of b-sides with every cd release. Every single contains at least one and sometimes up to 4 b-sides. Her best b-sides are the ones for TO BRING YOU MY LOVE and STORIES FROM THE CITY....Awesome! She could definitely release a CURE-like box set of them in a few years.
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Reply #28 posted 09/02/04 11:26pm

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Supernova said:

okaypimpn said:

What other aritsts, besides Prince, are known for their b-sides? confuse

If memory serves me the Beatles had some really big songs that were b-sides....unfortunately I can't remember which ones at the moment.

It's serving you. nod

This is just from a few of the singles I have in my possession.
Beatles:
If I Fell (b-side of And I Love Her)
You Can't Do That (b-side of Can't Buy Me Love)
Day Tripper (b-side of We Can Work It Out) eek
I Saw Her Standing There (b-side of I Want To Hold Your Hand)

More Beatles that I don't have.
(a-side/b-side)
A Hard Day's Night/I Should Have Known Better
I'll Cry Instead/I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
I Feel Fine/She's A Woman
Eight Days A Week/I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Help!/I'm Down
Paperback Writer/Rain
Yellow Submarine/Eleanor Rigby
Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever
All You Need Is Love/Baby You're A Rich Man
Hello Goodbye/I Am The Walrus
Hey Jude/Revolution
Get Back/Don't Let Me Down
Something/Come Together
Got To Get You Into My Life/Helter Skelter
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da/Julia

Other decent b-sides from some singles that I have.
Stones:
Play With Fire (b-side of The Last Time)
The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man (b-side of Satisfaction)

Beach Boys:
Don't Worry Baby (b-side of I Get Around)
The Warmth Of The Sun (b-side of Dance,Dance,Dance)

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Reply #29 posted 09/03/04 10:53am

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Where's Finess? neutral

I know he's got some hot b-side info and inventory. nod

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