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Thread started 08/25/04 6:15am

LightOfArt

Pop Albums that will never sound DATED

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Reply #1 posted 08/25/04 6:24am

DavidEye

'Sign O The Times' by Prince ---in fact,Prince is one of the few artists whose 80s albums do not sound the least bit dated.
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Reply #2 posted 08/25/04 6:56am

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DavidEye said:

'Sign O The Times' by Prince ---in fact,Prince is one of the few artists whose 80s albums do not sound the least bit dated.

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Reply #3 posted 08/25/04 7:13am

UptownDeb

Al Green's "I'm Still in love with you." heart
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Reply #4 posted 08/25/04 12:28pm

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Sade: Love Deluxe or Lovers Rock

Jamiraquoi - Return of the Space Cowboy

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #5 posted 08/25/04 12:31pm

VoicesCarry

Do they exist?
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Reply #6 posted 08/25/04 12:46pm

JANFAN4L

Never say never, but...

Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope (1997)
Alana Davis - Fortune Cookies (2001)
Tori Fixx - The Mochasutra (2000)
Anita Baker - Rapture (1986)
Sade - Diamond Life (1984)
Sade - Promise (1985)
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Reply #7 posted 08/25/04 12:55pm

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'Parade' cool
...Your coochie gonna swell up and fall apart...
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Reply #8 posted 08/25/04 2:55pm

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Touch by The Eurythmics.
Blue by Joni Mitchell.
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Reply #9 posted 08/25/04 3:31pm

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DavidEye said:

'Sign O The Times' by Prince ---in fact,Prince is one of the few artists whose 80s albums do not sound the least bit dated.



I agree.
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Reply #10 posted 08/25/04 3:38pm

Pagey

The Beatles: White Album & Abbey Road
All Led Zeppelin albums
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Reply #11 posted 08/25/04 4:01pm

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Good question. I think the fewer electronic instruments, the less dated it sounds.

Most Tom Waits records. I'll say Small Change.

Elvis Costello--King of America

Much of Abbey Road (maybe not "Because")

Bob Dylan--Blood on the Tracks

Beck said that's exactly what he was going for with "Mutations". We'll see if it's true.

Could say Parade or Lovesexy, since they sound nothing like anything that came out at the same time.
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Reply #12 posted 08/25/04 4:07pm

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Nine Inch Nails: The Fragile & The Downward Spiral.

Bowie: Hunky Dory, Low, Heroes & Scary Monsters (I think most of his stuff has aged pretty well).

Pink Floyd: The Dark Side of the Moon.

Prince: Come, The Gold Experience.

Hendrix: First New Rays.

The Beatles: Abbey Road, Let It Be, The White Album.
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Reply #13 posted 08/25/04 4:32pm

Sdldawn

Ben folds - Rockn The Suburbs
Beatles White album
Beck - Sea Change
Wilco - YHF
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Reply #14 posted 08/25/04 5:10pm

flipwilson

Stones - Beggars Banquet through Exile
Beatles - Rubber Soul and Help
Moby Grape - s/t
Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde on Blonde
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Reply #15 posted 08/25/04 5:13pm

AsianBomb777

Nina Hagen - Nun Sex Munk Rock
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Reply #16 posted 08/25/04 5:37pm

LightOfArt

andyman91 said:

I think the fewer electronic instruments, the less dated it sounds


agreed.

Actually I like listenin dated sounding albums. Especially albums from 80s. Dates songs makes me feel that era.


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[This message was edited Wed Aug 25 17:39:55 2004 by LightOfArt]
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Reply #17 posted 08/25/04 7:03pm

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gooeythehamster said:

Touch by The Eurythmics.
Blue by Joni Mitchell.


Eurythmics : 1984 eveything besides sexcrime is pretty timeless.

How about Thriller? I have never tired of that one. Still good to this day.

The Creatures Boomerang DEFINITELY. Actually Feast Holds up pretty well. nod

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #18 posted 08/25/04 7:09pm

AsianBomb777

10,000 maniacs - In my Tribe
The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
Ministry - A Mind is a Terrible thing to Taste
Tracy Chapman - Cross Roads
ANything by Prince between ATWIAD and LoveSexy

And the next one is a little confusing: New Order - Substance
The reason why I say this it it obviously an 80's synth abulm, but the songs sound as fresh today as they did back then.
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Reply #19 posted 08/26/04 12:48am

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DavidEye said:

'Sign O The Times' by Prince ---in fact,Prince is one of the few artists whose 80s albums do not sound the least bit dated.


Sorry but I have to disagree on this one David. Even though "Sign O' The Times" was released in the 1980s, when I listen to it, I envision the 1960s.

On the other hand, I do see your point. If I were just now being exposed to music of any kind for the very first time and heard "Sign O' The Times", I would immediately say it must have been released in the 1960s. Of course, I would be wrong but that album would fool you.

To me, some of Sade's stuff like "Turn My Back On You" and "Is It A Crime" sounds like the 1970s, even though it was released in the 1980s. Lenny Kravitz's music also has a 1960s and 1970s feel to it and it was released in the 1990s. There were a few bands in the 1990s (I can't think of their names) that had kind of a retro 1970s sound also. Most of Prince's stuff released after 1985 to the present has a retro sound to it. Some of D'Angelo's slow stuff sounds like the 1970s.

A lot of the artists in this day and time go back and try to recreate the sound from another decade. I can't say I blame them. Look what else they have to compete with on the radio these days.

I can't really think of one album that I can listen to and not place an era that it sounds like, whether it came out in that era or not. I can't think of one that really stands alone and not sounds like anything else out there from any era.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #20 posted 08/26/04 1:09am

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andyman91 said:

I think the fewer electronic instruments, the less dated it sounds.



Exactly.That's why so much music from the mid-to-late 80s sounds so dated to me.Alot of that music was synthesizer-based,with drum machines and other electronic gimmicks.Alot of those songs sound like it was created by robots instead of musicians,lol.For the most part,Prince avoided this,which is why albums like 'Sign O The Times' and 'Parade' don't sound the least bit dated to me.
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Reply #21 posted 08/26/04 4:07am

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There's another side to this which is.... if there aren't any electronic elements... it sure sounds like it is pre-80s, which is dated. Which is exactly what some of these bands TRY to do.

I second AsianBomb's motion for The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead.
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Reply #22 posted 08/26/04 4:28am

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Pagey said:

The Beatles: White Album & Abbey Road
All Led Zeppelin albums

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I agree.

confuse Zeppelin's not pop though edit biggrin
[This message was edited Thu Aug 26 4:32:35 2004 by minneapolisgenius]
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Reply #23 posted 08/26/04 4:29am

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axlfilth said:


Pink Floyd: The Dark Side of the Moon.

nod Man, I've been wearing this album out all week. I had not listened to it for about two years, and it's just amazing.

Although, I wouldn't go so far to say that it doesn't sound "dated". It definitely has a unique 70s sound. Not that that's a bad thing. biggrin


Neither is Pink Floyd for that matter edit biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 08/26/04 5:07am

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minneapolisgenius said:

axlfilth said:


Pink Floyd: The Dark Side of the Moon.

nod Man, I've been wearing this album out all week. I had not listened to it for about two years, and it's just amazing.

Although, I wouldn't go so far to say that it doesn't sound "dated". It definitely has a unique 70s sound. Not that that's a bad thing. biggrin


Neither is Pink Floyd for that matter edit biggrin


That's what I'm talking about. Even the Beatles have a dated sound! Not that the songwriting isn't awesome, and ingenious use of tape loops, orchestras etc etc. But that shit sounds old! I really think The Queen Is Dead could have been released yesterday, and you wouldn't know.
Just think about how the White Album outtakes on the Anthology 3 sounded old, even though they were new to you. Maybe you still disagree..
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Reply #25 posted 08/26/04 5:13am

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CinisterCee said:

minneapolisgenius said:


nod Man, I've been wearing this album out all week. I had not listened to it for about two years, and it's just amazing.

Although, I wouldn't go so far to say that it doesn't sound "dated". It definitely has a unique 70s sound. Not that that's a bad thing. biggrin


Neither is Pink Floyd for that matter edit biggrin


That's what I'm talking about. Even the Beatles have a dated sound! Not that the songwriting isn't awesome, and ingenious use of tape loops, orchestras etc etc. But that shit sounds old! I really think The Queen Is Dead could have been released yesterday, and you wouldn't know.
Just think about how the White Album outtakes on the Anthology 3 sounded old, even though they were new to you. Maybe you still disagree..

Yeah, it's hard for me to define "dated". The majority of music that I listen to is from the late 60s and into the 70s, so obviously that's my favorite "sound". Also, I think dated can be a good thing, because the direction the majority of modern music is going, it makes me not even want to listen to anything that sounds "new" or really "now". Give me music from the past any day.
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Reply #26 posted 08/26/04 5:40am

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minneapolisgenius said:


Yeah, it's hard for me to define "dated". The majority of music that I listen to is from the late 60s and into the 70s, so obviously that's my favorite "sound". Also, I think dated can be a good thing, because the direction the majority of modern music is going, it makes me not even want to listen to anything that sounds "new" or really "now". Give me music from the past any day.


Tru dat. Lots of today's "new" music is lame as hell. No life in it whatsoever. The sad thing is, it makes me feel old to say that. Like, now I sound like my uncle. lol But it's not all of today's music, it's just what is promoted and marketed in your face so you'll hop on the next trend (that will sound dated in 10 years...)

Personally, when people talk about music sounding dated, that gets on my nerves. At some point it's just about trends and not about music. Like, if you're worried so much about something sounding dated you're not listening to the composition. Obviously there are certain sounds that dominate certain years and then they are never used again by anyone with any sense in their head. At work I call this company and their hold music is sooooo 90's... It sounds like MJ's "The Way You Make Me Feel". I can't explain the sound but if you heard it you would know what I meant. The rhythm of the song and the sounds used are sooo similar, it's like they were really trying to imitate that song. Kinda puts a damper on my work day. confused
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Reply #27 posted 08/26/04 6:01am

LightOfArt

superspaceboy said:

gooeythehamster said:

Touch by The Eurythmics.
Blue by Joni Mitchell.


Eurythmics : 1984 eveything besides sexcrime is pretty timeless.

How about Thriller? I have never tired of that one. Still good to this day.

The Creatures Boomerang DEFINITELY. Actually Feast Holds up pretty well. nod


thriller the song and wanna be startin somethin are a bit dated. other than that it's sounds all nice. i think Dangerous is going to remeain fresh. The albums is still going strong after 13 years. HIStory is nice too but there's still time to decide on that one.

Anyway, I think Pink Floyd's The Wall is timeless. When I listen to it from beginning to end, takes u on a journey. Sounds invincible on remastered cd.
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VinaBlue said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Yeah, it's hard for me to define "dated". The majority of music that I listen to is from the late 60s and into the 70s, so obviously that's my favorite "sound". Also, I think dated can be a good thing, because the direction the majority of modern music is going, it makes me not even want to listen to anything that sounds "new" or really "now". Give me music from the past any day.


Tru dat. Lots of today's "new" music is lame as hell. No life in it whatsoever. The sad thing is, it makes me feel old to say that. Like, now I sound like my uncle. lol But it's not all of today's music, it's just what is promoted and marketed in your face so you'll hop on the next trend (that will sound dated in 10 years...)

Personally, when people talk about music sounding dated, that gets on my nerves. At some point it's just about trends and not about music. Like, if you're worried so much about something sounding dated you're not listening to the composition. Obviously there are certain sounds that dominate certain years and then they are never used again by anyone with any sense in their head. At work I call this company and their hold music is sooooo 90's... It sounds like MJ's "The Way You Make Me Feel". I can't explain the sound but if you heard it you would know what I meant. The rhythm of the song and the sounds used are sooo similar, it's like they were really trying to imitate that song. Kinda puts a damper on my work day. confused

lol yeah, I feel like an old lady when I say things like that as well, but it's true. The thing is, I'll be the first one to admit that I'm sure there is some great new music being made out there somewhere today, but I just can't be bothered to search for it right now. And that's what you have to do to find it: search through loads of crap to find something that might really be great.

At the moment, I am busy enough getting into artists and bands that came way before my time. There is so much out there that I haven't even heard yet, and it's very time consuming. lol I often find myself thinking, after I've discovered "new" old music, "How the hell did I go through life so far without ever hearing this yet?!"
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Reply #29 posted 08/26/04 8:10am

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Seven billion jazz albums recorded since the 60s.
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