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What is New Wave? What are the characteristics of 80's New Wave? What are the definitive bands that represent this movement? Where is the line drawn between New Wave, Alternative, and Punk and other so-called categories?
A few guesses: synthesizers Flock of Seagulls hairdos and eye makeup I'm not being very articulate here. Please explain... | |
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it's cool, but not as cool as no-wave. | |
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New Wave is a catch all like "alternative" was in the 90's.
I tend to think of it a little more specifically though. You can lump anything slightly angular, punky and underground from about '77 to '84 into the new wave category. But I don't. Punk is the harsh, abrasive guitar driven bratty stuff a la The Sex Pistols. Post-Punk is the dark, moody expressive aftermath. See Joy Division and The Cure. New Wave is a brighter, catchier, more danceable variation on the 2. Blondie and The Cars come to mind. Synth Pop is an offshoot where guitars are rarely involved. Colder, robotic shit like Gary Numan and Depeche Mode. No Wave is impossible to describe. | |
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http://www.wordiq.com/def...Wave_music [This message was edited Thu Aug 19 21:28:11 2004 by VinaBlue] | |
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Ask Andre Cymone | |
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Or... The Time, cuz they don't like it!!!! | |
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allmusic.com defines:
During the late '70s and early '80s, New Wave was a catch-all term for the music that directly followed punk rock; often, the term encompassed punk itself, as well. In retrospect, it's became clear that the music that followed punk could be divided, more or less, into two categories — post-punk and new wave. Where post-punk was arty, difficult, and challenging, new wave was pop music, pure and simple. It retained the fresh vigor and irreverence of punk music, as well as a fascination with electronics, style, and art. Therefore, there was a lot of stylistic diversity to new wave. It meant the nervy power pop of bands like XTC and Nick Lowe, but it also meant synth rockers like Gary Numan or rock revivalists like Graham Parker and Rockpile. There were edgy new wave songwriters like Elvis Costello, pop bands like Squeeze, tough rock & rollers like the Pretenders, pop-reggae like the Police, mainstream rockers like the Cars, and ska revivalists like the Specials and Madness. As important as these major artists were, there were also countless one-hit wonders that emerged during early new wave. These one-hit groups were as diverse as the major artists, but they all shared a love of pop hooks, modernist, synthesized production, and a fascination for being slightly left of center. By the early '80s, new wave described nearly every new pop/rock artist, especially those that used synthesizers like the Human League and Duran Duran. New wave received a boost in the early '80s by MTV, who broadcast endless hours of new wave videos in order to keep themselves on the air. Therefore, new wave got a second life in 1982, when it probably would have died out. Instead, 1982 and 1983 were boom years for polished, MTV-radio new wave outfits like Culture Club, Adam Ant, Spandau Ballet, Haircut 100, and A Flock of Seagulls. New wave finally died out in 1984, when established artists began to make professional videos and a new crop of guitar-oriented bands like the Smiths and R.E.M. emerged to capture the attention of college-radio and underground rock fans. Nevertheless, new wave proved more influential than many of its critics would have suspected, as the mid-'90s were dominated by bands — from Blur to Weezer — that were raised on the music. | |
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ok ..where the hell is NWF when u need him! Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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VinaBlue said: http://80music.about.com/library/weekly/aa060698.htm
http://www.wordiq.com/def...Wave_music [This message was edited Thu Aug 19 21:28:11 2004 by VinaBlue] This is fascinating. Thank you. | |
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Mazerati said: ok ..where the hell is NWF when u need him!
Yes. NWF is the one who got me started on this. | |
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GangstaFam said: No Wave is impossible to describe. which reminds me, i still gotta help you out on that. | |
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What the hell is No Wave? Shall I start a new thread? | |
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nevermind. already been said edit [This message was edited Fri Aug 20 16:22:44 2004 by HelloKittyIsMyFriend] Four strings across the bridge. Ready to carry me over,Over the quavers, drunk in the bars,Out of the realm of the orchestra | |
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Y'all looking for me? NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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OK, it's real simple:
Punk begat Post-Punk Post-Punk begat New Wave New Wave begat New Romantic and Synth-Pop Synth-Pop begat New Pop New Pop begat Alternative Pop/Rock Alternative Pop/Rock begat Grunge Grunge begat Post-Rock .....and then there are the subgenres in between that. But to be honest, I'm too fucking lazy to go into details. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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School's in. | |
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I like this:
As fashion, there were two major components of "New wave" dress. First, there was an eclectic revivalism. Paisley prints (from the 1960's), very thin neckties and pleats (from the 1940s), and simple colors were one part. The other part was a desire to embrace contemporary synthetic materials as a protest and celebration of "plastic." This involved the use of spandex, shocking colors, and mass-produced (or apparently mass-produced) and tawdry ornaments. Men's and women's fashions thus split from one another dramatically, and men wearing spandex and bright colors were ridiculed (and became emblematic of the mass marketing of "new wave" in department stores). As a fashion movement, then, New Wave was both a post-modern belief in creative pastiche and a continuation of Pop Art's satire and fascination with manufacturing.
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OK. After extensive research and to make amends for offending NWF, I must say there are many New Wave bands that I liked in the 80's and still like:
ABC B-52's Bow Wow Wow The Cars Cheap Trick (had no idea they were considered New Wave) The Cure Devo Eurythmics The Knack The Motels New Order Oingo Boingo The Police The Pretenders (New Wave?) Psychadelic Furs The Ramones (New Wave?) R.E.M. Soft Cell Talking Heads Talk Talk The The Violent Femmes these were on the official list of New Wave bands http://www.wordiq.com/def...Wave_music | |
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More New Wave bands:
Duran Duran Scritti Politti Adam And The Ants Human League Gang of Four INXS The Suburbs The Smiths Frankie Goes To Hollywood Lene Lovich Culture Club Erasure Joy Division Dexy's Midnight Runners The Associates Josie Cotton Split Enz Yaz Japan Felony Magazine APB The Waitresses Heaven 17 Romeo Void Madness U2 (yes, they're New Wave) The Specials Elvis Costello & The Attractions Ultravox .....and many more. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: More New Wave bands:
Duran Duran Scritti Politti Adam And The Ants Human League Gang of Four INXS The Suburbs The Smiths Frankie Goes To Hollywood Lene Lovich Culture Club Erasure Joy Division Dexy's Midnight Runners The Associates Josie Cotton Split Enz Yaz Japan Felony Magazine APB The Waitresses Heaven 17 Romeo Void Madness U2 (yes, they're New Wave) The Specials Elvis Costello & The Attractions Ultravox .....and many more. THE SMITHS!!!! Other than that, I'm not a big fan of these bands though I think Romeo Void was ok. How about NEW ORDER? I like them. | |
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