As for "lat great R&B-ish albums," that leaves a lot of leeway. Remy's joint would qualify. I heard good things about Lewis Taylor's work. I think Jamiroquai's 1st 2 albums could work themselves into the debate, I'd also make a pitch for Beck's Midnite Vultures and Michael McDonald's Motown.

As for singles, Jeff Buckley's "Everybody Here Wants You" is a classic jam, and a nominee for "the best Prince slow jam Prince never made."

How about "Everything" by St.Paul Petterson. (I can't believe there isn't anyOne from MN here...)

Thicke's album wasn't bad...nor was nikka costa's (i'm pretty sure she's white)

vainandy said:

You can get the promo for "I'm Still In Love" on eBay for a few bucks - it has the no-rap version.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 19 6:24:21 2004 by VoicesCarry]

vainandy said:

I totally agree. I have been desperate for some good new music for years now. I heard Teena's new single, "I'm Still In Love" on the radio and thought it was decent. I seriously considered buying this album so I went to the Tower Records web site and listened to samples of every track. I was TOTALLY disgusted. On the sample of "I'm Still In Love", there is even rappers on that track. Now, I'm thinking about just recording the song off of the radio and burning it on CD.[/quote]


No,no,no....go out and get Teena's CD! Trust me,it is excellent.Yes,there are some rappers on a few songs (I usually skip "The Macking Game" and "Off The Chain",which are the two most hip-hop sounding songs),but there are also some solid,outstanding R&B and jazz-flavored tracks that rank right up there with her classic hits from the 80s.Tracks like "Honey Call","Baby I'm Your Fiend","My Body's Hungry","Makaveli Never Lies","A Rose Is Still A Rose","I Love Him Too" and "I'm On Fire" are all top-notch songs,and they aren't ruined by unneccesary hip-hop cameos.And I know you're a Rick James fan,so you gotta get this CD for the Rick/Teena duet "I Got You",which is another good song (but not as powerful as the other tracks I listed).I would argue that this is her best,strongest,most consistent album since 'Robbery'

twink69 said:

I have one for my car and one for home.

[/quote] I have one for my car and one for home.[/quote]

So you bought 50% of the cds sold

jbchavez said:

I have one for my car and one for home.[/quote]

So you bought 50% of the cds sold[/quote]You are not right.

vainandy said:

I like Cher, particularly her 70s tracks, and that's a good album. But I don't think there's any way you can classify Believe as an R&B album.

RipHer2Shreds said:

i agree...it has to at least had some crossover appeal..one cut that got played on urban radio..sumthin!!

What is this fascination with colour lines and 'crossover' music?



What a bore, this is 2004.

[This message was edited Fri Aug 20 23:28:37 2004 by NWF]

I like lisa stansfield's "real love" album

Remember Tara Kemp?

NoodleSoup said:

then geez by all means, stop replying to all the threads. just a friendly discussion about crossing music boundaries. nobody's running for political office or anything.

DavidEye said:

meltwithu said:

You're definitely an out of touch white guy. No offense but I don't know many black people who would consider Faith remotely close to r&b. Why do you keep trying to creep George Michael on these silly race crossover list you're making anywya? I like George Michael but I don't associate him with music that black people typically perform.

I see what you are saying but the way I associate "Believe" with R&B is because it's house music which is a form of R&B just like disco and funk are also forms of R&B. I don't remember R&B radio ever playing it, but in this day and age, if it's not hip hop or ballads, they are not going to play it.

What's with all the race threads? White this, Black that? Don't start a new trend of race threads, please...

With that said, I find it funny that no one mentioned Taylor Dayne, her first album. She was a regular at The Showtime at the Apollo and turned it out on "I'll Always Love You"...now, you know the Apollo audience just doesn't give props...you have to earn them, and she got hers.
(this may be the wrong thread, they all run together...)

Serveitupfrankie*

The Doobie Brother's 1976-1980 albums from Takin' It To The Streets to One Step Closer.

kdj997 said:

well actually i'm an in touch black guy over 35 years old who happens to remember that a lot of black folks back in '87 were pumping the Faith album. maybe yuo don't know as many black folks as you think you do... i know hundreds, thousands...and anyone of them over age 30 can fondly remember at least 3 songs off that Faith album...R&B -ish..not R&B....there's a difference.

george michael's faith

steely dan's asia (yes steely dan)

hall and oates (no particular album)

always teena marie

remy shand and that one cut by the Eagles called "i can't tell you why"


and red hot chili peppers is cheating but i are good they can get funky! i love there cover of "higher ground" by stevie
[This message was edited Sat Aug 21 23:40:51 2004 by heybaby]

You're definitely an out of touch white guy. No offense but I don't know many black people who would consider Faith remotely close to r&b. Why do you keep trying to creep George Michael on these silly race crossover list you're making anywya? I like George Michael but I don't associate him with music that black people typically perform.[/quote]

Ahem...

Emphasizing his r&b roots, in May 1985 George Michael performed on NBC television special celebrating the 50th anniversary of Harlem's famed Apollo Theater. He sang with Stevie Wonder and performed a duet of "Caresell Whisper" with Smokey Robinson, achknowledging the inspiration he'd so long received from these leg-endary artistis.

his first desicion was as such was to record with Aretha Franklin - and with "I knew you were waiting for me" (in 1987), George became the first white male vocalist ever to duet with the soul great. The song shot to No.1 and won a Grammy for Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group With Vocal.
"Faith", "Father figure", "One more try" and "Monkey" were all No.1 hits. "Faith" and "One more try" went gold, with the latter taking the Triple Crown: No.1 on the Pop, R&B and Adult Contemporary (AC) charts. "Fatherfigure" was also Top 10 R&B, and it earned a Grammy nomination for Best Pop Vocal Performance. Yet another single, "Kissing a fool", reached No.5 Pop and No. 1 AC. As for the album, it was the first by the white solo artist ever to hit No.1 on Billboard's R&B Albums chart - an achievement George Michael called "the highlight of my career."

As they say around the way...if you don't know what you're talking about..shut the f-up.
Whoomp...there it is.

meltwithu said:

Ahem...

Emphasizing his r&b roots, in May 1985 George Michael performed on NBC television special celebrating the 50th anniversary of Harlem's famed Apollo Theater. He sang with Stevie Wonder and performed a duet of "Caresell Whisper" with Smokey Robinson, achknowledging the inspiration he'd so long received from these leg-endary artistis.

his first desicion was as such was to record with Aretha Franklin - and with "I knew you were waiting for me" (in 1987), George became the first white male vocalist ever to duet with the soul great. The song shot to No.1 and won a Grammy for Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group With Vocal.
"Faith", "Father figure", "One more try" and "Monkey" were all No.1 hits. "Faith" and "One more try" went gold, with the latter taking the Triple Crown: No.1 on the Pop, R&B and Adult Contemporary (AC) charts. "Fatherfigure" was also Top 10 R&B, and it earned a Grammy nomination for Best Pop Vocal Performance. Yet another single, "Kissing a fool", reached No.5 Pop and No. 1 AC. As for the album, it was the first by the white solo artist ever to hit No.1 on Billboard's R&B Albums chart - an achievement George Michael called "the highlight of my career."

As they say around the way...if you don't know what you're talking about..shut the f-up.
Whoomp...there it is.[/quote]


Don't forget George Michael also covered Stevie's They Won't Go When I Go

Good thing nobody is running for office. The conception of this thread is pure genius, a real step forward.



Still, as u were. Don't hate, but perpetuate.

kdj997 said:

'Faith' might not be a genuine R&B album,but it did reach Number One on the Billboard R&B Album charts in 1988 (I remember Freddie Jackson making a big deal about this...lol...he didn't think that George deserved that honor.But by 1987,George had clearly earned his R&B stripes).And several tracks were funky/soulful enough to receive massive airplay on R&B radio stations ("Hard Day","Monkey","I Want Your Sex","One More Try").

Yeah. White people suck.

TheRealFiness said:

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Joss is going to blow up big time. Just wait and see!!!!!

laurarichardson said:

it's okay