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Thread started 08/08/04 8:45pm

Tom

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Billy Corgan hints at the reason for the breakup of Zwan...

http://www.billycorgan.com

The 8/3 post has a mention of some bad blood between he and the former members of Zwan, and alludes to why they broke up.

He hasnt had much luck with bandmates in the past few years has he, LOL.
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Reply #1 posted 08/08/04 8:47pm

VoicesCarry

Tom said:

http://www.billycorgan.com

The 8/3 post has a mention of some bad blood between he and the former members of Zwan, and alludes to why they broke up.

He hasnt had much luck with bandmates in the past few years has he, LOL.


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Reply #2 posted 08/08/04 9:01pm

kellyann22

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NO!!! Billy CORGAN??? "BAD BLOOD"??? I thought he was all rainbows and sunshine!
"We're all members of the animal kingdom
Leave your brothers and sisters in the sea"

"If U had the chance 2 see the future would U try?"
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Reply #3 posted 08/08/04 9:04pm

SassierBritche
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maybe the fact that zwan wasn't that good of a band played a part in the breakup?
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Reply #4 posted 08/08/04 9:14pm

Supernova

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VoicesCarry said:

Tom said:

http://www.billycorgan.com

The 8/3 post has a mention of some bad blood between he and the former members of Zwan, and alludes to why they broke up.

He hasnt had much luck with bandmates in the past few years has he, LOL.


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Of course you know you can't talk about other artists' egos without acknowledging Prince's on this site (some newer fans seem to think Prince is never put on blast on his own site). neutral
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #5 posted 08/08/04 9:31pm

HollowellSA

I thought they sounded too much like the Smashing Pumpkins lol
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Reply #6 posted 08/08/04 9:38pm

EvilWhiteMale

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He needs to quit doing sissy rock and get to some real shit.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #7 posted 08/08/04 11:35pm

DiminutiveRock
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HollowellSA said:

I thought they sounded too much like the Smashing Pumpkins lol


Zwan were the poor man's Smashing Pumpkins... their CD was pretty uneventful.
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Reply #8 posted 08/09/04 7:13am

HollowellSA

DiminutiveRocker said:

HollowellSA said:

I thought they sounded too much like the Smashing Pumpkins lol


Zwan were the poor man's Smashing Pumpkins... their CD was pretty uneventful.

Yep I thought so too...you would think if he was going to start a new band he would have came up with a different style.. but I guess not lol
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Reply #9 posted 08/09/04 8:19am

rainman1985

EvilWhiteMale said:

He needs to quit doing sissy rock and get to some real shit.


Sissy rock? How old are you?
[This message was edited Mon Aug 9 8:23:18 2004 by rainman1985]
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Reply #10 posted 08/09/04 12:35pm

CynicKill

I'm still a little shocked at how their fan base fell off after "Mellon Collie...". I mean I've heard of fan fickleness but c'mon. The same thing happened to REM.
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Reply #11 posted 08/09/04 12:38pm

POOK

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CynicKill said:

I'm still a little shocked at how their fan base fell off after "Mellon Collie...". I mean I've heard of fan fickleness but c'mon. The same thing happened to REM.


YEAH TOTALLY

NOBODY LISTEN TO REM AFTER MELLON COLLIE EITHER

P o o |/,
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Reply #12 posted 08/09/04 12:46pm

mrdespues

POOK said:

CynicKill said:

I'm still a little shocked at how their fan base fell off after "Mellon Collie...". I mean I've heard of fan fickleness but c'mon. The same thing happened to REM.


YEAH TOTALLY

NOBODY LISTEN TO REM AFTER MELLON COLLIE EITHER


lol

you beat me to it!
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Reply #13 posted 08/09/04 7:38pm

EvilWhiteMale

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rainman1985 said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

He needs to quit doing sissy rock and get to some real shit.


Sissy rock? How old are you?


28

Why?
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #14 posted 08/09/04 11:47pm

LAProducer

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DiminutiveRocker said:

HollowellSA said:

I thought they sounded too much like the Smashing Pumpkins lol


Zwan were the poor man's Smashing Pumpkins... their CD was pretty uneventful.


I dissagree, I pulled out the CD the other day and enjoyed a few songs. It's not Smashing Pumpkins, but it has it's moments. I actually really think Paz added a lot to Corgan, goo vocals, good bass playing, I mean hell, she was a lot more exciting than Darcey's boring ass. And you can't really go wrong with Jimmy Chamberlin on drums.

As far as SP, their fan base sure did drop off after mellon collie. I actually really like Adore, the follow up to that. It's kinda the same way around the world in a day followed up purple rain. Not really comercailly succesful but very artistically successful
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Reply #15 posted 08/10/04 9:26am

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Well Im a hardcore Corganite, I was one of the lucky few who got to go to the private recording sessions in April, we spoke face to face about a lot of things, Hip Hop, and the state of music today in general. He said some pretty harsh things about Pajo, and from what I get out of the whole thing is simply that the other band members work ethic was a lot different. As far as Zwan's Mary Star Of The Sea, it has some real strong tracks, the title track Jesus I/Mary Star Of The Sea is pure guitar bliss, how any Rock fan could not like that track is beyond me. The thing is, Corgan like so many others, is caught in the Prince trap. If you repeat yourself people will say the band is not evolving, if you do something different, Adore, Machina one, then people say they like the Mellon Collie days and I wish he would just rock like that. Damned if you do damned if you dont.
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Reply #16 posted 08/10/04 2:05pm

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LAProducer said:

DiminutiveRocker said:



Zwan were the poor man's Smashing Pumpkins... their CD was pretty uneventful.


I dissagree, I pulled out the CD the other day and enjoyed a few songs. It's not Smashing Pumpkins, but it has it's moments. I actually really think Paz added a lot to Corgan, goo vocals, good bass playing, I mean hell, she was a lot more exciting than Darcey's boring ass. And you can't really go wrong with Jimmy Chamberlin on drums.

As far as SP, their fan base sure did drop off after mellon collie. I actually really like Adore, the follow up to that. It's kinda the same way around the world in a day followed up purple rain. Not really comercailly succesful but very artistically successful


Thanks for your input, LAProducer. Clearly, you're the more serious SP fan and defer to your knowledge on the music. I just didn't think the CD was that interesting, IMO.
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Reply #17 posted 08/11/04 5:28am

JediMaster

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LAProducer said:

DiminutiveRocker said:



Zwan were the poor man's Smashing Pumpkins... their CD was pretty uneventful.


I dissagree, I pulled out the CD the other day and enjoyed a few songs. It's not Smashing Pumpkins, but it has it's moments. I actually really think Paz added a lot to Corgan, goo vocals, good bass playing, I mean hell, she was a lot more exciting than Darcey's boring ass. And you can't really go wrong with Jimmy Chamberlin on drums.

As far as SP, their fan base sure did drop off after mellon collie. I actually really like Adore, the follow up to that. It's kinda the same way around the world in a day followed up purple rain. Not really comercailly succesful but very artistically successful


Couldn't agree more. Personally, I loved Zwan, and I thought Machina was one of their best albums. Actually, the Pumpkins don't have any albums I don't like.
jedi

Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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Reply #18 posted 08/11/04 5:29am

JediMaster

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Meloh9 said:

Well Im a hardcore Corganite, I was one of the lucky few who got to go to the private recording sessions in April, we spoke face to face about a lot of things, Hip Hop, and the state of music today in general. He said some pretty harsh things about Pajo, and from what I get out of the whole thing is simply that the other band members work ethic was a lot different. As far as Zwan's Mary Star Of The Sea, it has some real strong tracks, the title track Jesus I/Mary Star Of The Sea is pure guitar bliss, how any Rock fan could not like that track is beyond me. The thing is, Corgan like so many others, is caught in the Prince trap. If you repeat yourself people will say the band is not evolving, if you do something different, Adore, Machina one, then people say they like the Mellon Collie days and I wish he would just rock like that. Damned if you do damned if you dont.



Oh man, you totally summed up my feelings on this!!!
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