I remember ALL the hype surrounding it, seeing all these appearances on "The Oprah Winfrey Show", " VH1 Divas Live 2000", "The View" & "The Today Show" and even pre4ming in the Madison Square Garden.

Feeling excited about them going 2 the studio then BAM! not a word.

What happend?

Nobody bought the tickets so the whole tour was cancelled.

lovemachine said:

And it wasn't really The Supremes so, who cared? Well, it was...sorta kinda.

please...whatever...it was Ms. Ross and her ego on tour. no one bought tickets to see that old heffer. that tour was cancelled quicker than diana changes wigs and weaves! ain't no reunion goin' on here.

SassyBritches said:

You are absolutely right Sassy. Diana's ego is so big these days it's sickening. I heard the ticket sales were extremely poor and Diana was being her usual diva bitch to everyone.

Maaaan lol this world is mighty hypocrite, she wasn't a BITCH in her heyday when everybody was sucking her clit(mind my ghetto french) but she's a POWER HUNGRY BITCH now that she's going down & out.

Ironic & sad!

Harlepolis said:

spin it how you win it...

diana was a bitch back when she was fucking gordy, literally, and her group mates, figuratively. the ego has been there long before now. don't twist my words to mean something they don't.

I think Diana had some great songs in her early days and even into the 80's and she has a very good voice too, but I've always felt that she thought she was better than everyone else and I've read numerous reports about how nasty she is to work with and how badly she treats people. I don't believe everything I read, but I do believe she's not a very nice person. I think JLo is very much like her. Too diva-like and expects everyone to kowtow to her every ridiculous whim.

kisscamille said:

There's no doubt in my mind that Diana Ross was/is as demanding and catty as her reputation would lead you to believe. She was hardly the most talented Supreme, but she was the most glamorous and the most ambitious. That's why her career flourished. She was also very smart about her pick of producers and ummm...boyfriends. I'm being super nice about my choice of words.

She's always been a difficult person, but it seems she hasn't been abso-smurfly bonkers until recent years. Sad when superstars lose their goddamn minds.

kisscamille said:

a bunch of years back, i used to live next door to an older lady who was a flight attendant. this woman had many celebrity encounters when she would work first class flights. she had some great stories (like elton john getting smashed and singing for people). she told me a story about Ms. Ross and it turned me off immediately. she has a list of requirements (most celebs do when they are not flying on corporate jets), one of which was that you are never to turn your back to "Ms. Ross". attendants were not allowed to bring Ms. Ross her meal but instead had to ask if they may serve her now. keep in mind, in first class the meals get served at the time. i guess she wanted to feel as though she was on a corporate flight, lol. anyhow...and what about the time she refused to pay her 100,000 dollar hair bill? i just don't like this woman.

stop! in the name of grammar edit
[This message was edited Wed Jul 7 12:10:57 2004 by SassyBritches]

SassyBritches said:

I hear ya Sassy. I don't like her much either anymore. I thought she was great back in the day, but I don't like anyone that struts around like they're better than everyone. It's one thing to be confident, but it's another thing to think your shit don't stink. As I said above, Diana was great in her day and had many good songs, but for the past 10 years or so she's become a laughing stock with her drunk driving and diva like bahavior.

SassyBritches said:

I'm getting off subject here, but sadly there are a lot of people like this. Even people that are generally respected. I'm thinking in particular of Maya Angelou who wants people who don't know her to refer to her as Dr. Angelou and insists that people stand when she enters the room. A scholar and poet, yes. Queen of the universe? Not so much.

Nonetheless, Diana Ross' behavior has long been out of control. I just focus on the music and try hard as I can to separate the "artist" from the person. If I'm recalling correctly, wasn't her solo tour just a few years before the Supremes reunion canned due to poor ticket sales as well?

People have already said the reason why the 'Return To Love' tour was canceled was because of low ticket sales, but no one has stated yet why ticket sales were so low.

It was because the fans knew they were being duped.

Diana was originally supposed to reunite with Supremes Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong. However, Diana was supposedly being paid $15-$20 million for the tour while Wilson and Birdsong were only paid $2 million. Does that seem fair? They didn't think so, so they asked for more money and were offered $3 million instead of two. They still didn't think that was enough so Diana then chose the two Supremes that sang with Wilson after Diana had left (Scherrie Payne and Lynda Lawrence whom btw, Diana had never even met before, much less sang together with) and went out on tour with them instead. Did I mention ticket prices for these "Supremes" ranged from $80 to $250???

I strongly believe if the tour consisted of Diana, Wilson and Birdsong, it would have done much better. Hell, maybe even I would have went.

There's a great book by a guy named Tony Turner who used to be a road manager for Mary Wilson and former Temptations Eddie Kendricks & David Ruffin. In his book, he remembers a quote from Ruff (about Diana Ross) that's just priceless.
David said: "One time we were on one of those Motown tours and I pulled that b**** aside and asked; can you write down the names of the men on this tour who's d***s you haven't sucked yet? Write that sh*t down!"

So, Prince doesn't have an ego, right?

2freaky4church1 said:

sho'nuff...and i call him out on that shit too.

SassyBritches said:

TELL IT LIKE IT IS SASSY!
MS. THANG WAS A BITCH FROM DAY ONE! MY MOTHER TOLD ME WHEN FLO BALLARD DIED EVERYBODY BOOED DIANA AS SHE WAS WALKING INTO THE CHURCH. AND AS THE REUNION TOUR GOES THEY DID HAVE THE CONCERT AT THE PALACE AND THAT WAS PROBELY THE ONLY SHOW!

debbiedean2 said:

would i do anything else?

Harlepolis said:

Ummm....she's been that way for a long time now. It's not new.

2sillyforschool said:

There are no shortage of threads here about Prince and his ego, if you have a problem with this one, then it definitely is your problem.

2freaky4church1 said:

You know what? As far as egos go,I've always considered Prince to be the "male version" of Diana Ross...lol...there are many similarities between the two of them...


***Both had one really successful first film (Diana with "Lady Sings The Blues",Prince with "Purple Rain"),and a string of flops (Prince with "Cherry Moon" and "Graffiti Bridge"....Diana with "Mohagany" and "The Wiz").


***Both are known for being demanding,ambitious and ego-driven (Diana making people refer to her as "Ms.Ross"....Prince getting pissed during the "Raspberry Beret" video shoot,because the dancers were "looking" at him...lol)

***Both of them date outside their race

***We've heard horror stories about how they both treat people


I'm just being silly,but y'all know what i mean.

RipHer2Shreds said:[quote] I just focus on the music and try hard as I can to separate the "artist" from the person./quote]


Yeah,you pretty much have to do that with many artists.

SassyBritches said:

So is Madonna who's not apoligizing 4 it difference is Maddy can get away with it and get called "Independent", Diana on the other hand is being shitted on her face.

And I don't need to twist your words cuz I'm talking in general terms, If I ment you by my post I'd be DIRECT!
[This message was edited Thu Jul 8 8:13:48 2004 by Harlepolis]

Ok, I just re-read this thread & ya know what? Sometimes I don't even understand the lingering resentment of Ross. Berry Gordy and Ross reconfigured the way young black women were presented in the media. Even though she came from the projects, Ross was always poised and glamorous in front of the camera. Her bearing and comportment was always meticulous. She proved that you did not have to sing in an uptown cabaret (ala Diahann Carroll or Nancy Wilson) to be sophisticated.

The whole "Miss Ross" thing came about because the white media insisted on calling these grown-ass black women by their first names, but would not have dared refer to their white counterparts as anything other than Miss Streisand or Miss Garland. So it was a necessity that Berry insisted that everyone refer to her as "Miss Ross" because that's who she is.

And Ross is no more haughty or self-absorbed than any of her contemporaries. She may be an insufferable diva but she is not the only one -- that's showbiz!

At least, I give her the credit 4 being an upfront about it. If Maddy can get away at eknowledging that its ok to be a bitch in order to make a name of herself then Diana can do the samn damn thing,,,,,with a pack of brownies & cornbread too, what?

Diana wanted to drive the golf cart.

Harlepolis said:

I gotta agree. Personally, I've never been one to care about Diana's rep. I'm sort of ambivalent about it. Although I'm not what one would call a big fan, I do have one album by her, but I never got caught up with the rumors and innuendo, or even her substantiated actions. I DO, however, hate the way Flo Ballard ended up. And I know some people put some of the blame on Ross for that.

Harlepolis said:

i've called madonna out on her bitchiness also. anybody who thinks they can talk to people like they are shit simply because they are wealthy falls into the same category. i don't care what you do or who you are. you'll get no arguments from me regarding madonna. i like her music. i don't necessarily care for her. i feel the same way about diana ross. the only difference is madonna's music is still good 20 years later.

SassyBritches said:

Thats a matter of taste & opinion, you think Maddy's music is still good 20 years later, the rest think Diane's music is still good 40 years later

Personaly, both suck big oranges IMHO!