TheRealFiness said: who is this Van Hunt guy.. and why is he around?
I met him in Dayton,Ohio another city o'funk! He's talented but cocky just like P was back in the day. He loves Prince and when u here his album which reminds u of early P and more mellow sensual P...FOR U/Prince cd's! His cd is very good but he's just talkin shit 2 try and get noticed. But his cd is worth buyin. Every song on the cd has quality. I listened 2it and Musicology all the way thru Chitown on my way 2 Minny last month! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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namepeace said: I love the guy, I think he's put out the best album I've heard this year, save for the Beastie Boys and Madvillain. But to an extent, steelyd is right about new cats with a measure of talent who think they're P's musical heir apparents. I thought Hunt would have been smarter than to say some dumb stuff like that.
Same feelings i had when i met him at a club in Dayton,Ohio after his performance. He got that swagger goin on but he'll settle down eventually. He's better live than on record but the P comparison's is 2 initiate conversation. He knows he's not on Prince's level but he definitely can mess with D'angelo live! He just needs 2 find a tighter band or hookup with Mombo's Combo and then he'll b on and poppin!If he could leave giants like Tom Petty and vets like Jeff Lynne agape on the stage at the RRHOF show, then if Prince shared the stage with Van he could really hurt the boy. Still, Van has some talent. Let's see if he can settle down a little bit. U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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in Dayton,Ohio another city o'funk! He's talented but cocky just like P was back in the day. He loves Prince and when u here his album which reminds u of early P and more mellow sensual P...FOR U/Prince cd's! His cd is very good but he's just talkin shit 2 try and get noticed. But his cd is worth buyin. Every song on the cd has quality. I listened 2it and Musicology all the way thru Chitown on my way 2 Minny last month![/quote]
Van's got some cool stuff....but in my opinion, he has a ways to go before mentioning anything about being, approaching, close to, or ANYthing of that nature. sometimes, people tend to forget what kind of legacy Prince has laid down and just because he may not be a selling force as he once was back in the Purple Rain days, he is still quite the Performer. Remember, to be on the level of Prince, you have to have the showmanship,musicianship, writing, performing skills, marketing genius, re-inventor etc. I'm not saying Van is all of the above-mentioned but damn... you are creating something here and do not want the hammer to fall on you as a huge let-down on your career. Let's face it guys, anyone of us can be cocky, but you sure as hell better have the ammo to back it up. If not, the consequences could be disasterously overwhelming. Bran Which came first , music or the ear for it? | |
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Van's got some cool stuff....but in my opinion, he has a ways to go before mentioning anything about being, approaching, close to, or ANYthing of that nature. sometimes, people tend to forget what kind of legacy Prince has laid down and just because he may not be a selling force as he once was back in the Purple Rain days, he is still quite the Performer. Remember, to be on the level of Prince, you have to have the showmanship,musicianship, writing, performing skills, marketing genius, re-inventor etc. I'm not saying Van is all of the above-mentioned but damn... you are creating something here and do not want the hammer to fall on you as a huge let-down on your career. Let's face it guys, anyone of us can be cocky, but you sure as hell better have the ammo to back it up. If not, the consequences could be disasterously overwhelming.
Bran[/quote] Anyone who has a Chuckii Booker icon will get some respect from me LOL ( Damn, i can't believe it, A Chuckii fan in here) | |
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churchbruva said: Van's got some cool stuff....but in my opinion, he has a ways to go before mentioning anything about being, approaching, close to, or ANYthing of that nature. sometimes, people tend to forget what kind of legacy Prince has laid down and just because he may not be a selling force as he once was back in the Purple Rain days, he is still quite the Performer. Remember, to be on the level of Prince, you have to have the showmanship,musicianship, writing, performing skills, marketing genius, re-inventor etc. I'm not saying Van is all of the above-mentioned but damn... you are creating something here and do not want the hammer to fall on you as a huge let-down on your career. Let's face it guys, anyone of us can be cocky, but you sure as hell better have the ammo to back it up. If not, the consequences could be disasterously overwhelming.
Bran Anyone who has a Chuckii Booker icon will get some respect from me LOL ( Damn, i can't believe it, A Chuckii fan in here)[/quote]I agree whole heartedly with both of u. But i have seen the man perform live. I saw Prince backin tha day as well at Bogart's in Cincy during the Dirty mind era! All i'm sayin is the boy is talented like Tracy McGrady is talented,but TM is no MJ at this moment and Van Hunt is no P at this moment in his career. And personally i don't think he will ever b the all around talent that P has bcum but he is definitley a new talent 2 take notice of 4 the future! And i also love Chucki Booker especially when he was the Music /band Coordinator 4 JJ's Rythm Nation tour. He was an underrated talent! Van Hunt might end up like Lenny Kravitz or Andre Cymone! I lean more toward AC! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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Anyone who has a Chuckii Booker icon will get some respect from me LOL ( Damn, i can't believe it, A Chuckii fan in here)[/quote]I agree whole heartedly with both of u. But i have seen the man perform live. I saw Prince backin tha day as well at Bogart's in Cincy during the Dirty mind era! All i'm sayin is the boy is talented like Tracy McGrady is talented,but TM is no MJ at this moment and Van Hunt is no P at this moment in his career. And personally i don't think he will ever b the all around talent that P has bcum but he is definitley a new talent 2 take notice of 4 the future! And i also love Chucki Booker especially when he was the Music /band Coordinator 4 JJ's Rythm Nation tour. He was an underrated talent! Van Hunt might end up like Lenny Kravitz or Andre Cymone! I lean more toward AC![/quote]
No doubt, We'll see what Mr. Hunt will have up his sleeve. I actually look forward to hearing his CD and get an ear for his music. It's just so hard to fathom the thought of anyone being close to Prince in ANY way, shape or form genre-wise to his career. Yo Bran, you dont know nothin' about Niice N' Wiild LOL That track is as fonky as ALL get out. | |
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churchbruva said: Anyone who has a Chuckii Booker icon will get some respect from me LOL ( Damn, i can't believe it, A Chuckii fan in here) I agree whole heartedly with both of u. But i have seen the man perform live. I saw Prince backin tha day as well at Bogart's in Cincy during the Dirty mind era! All i'm sayin is the boy is talented like Tracy McGrady is talented,but TM is no MJ at this moment and Van Hunt is no P at this moment in his career. And personally i don't think he will ever b the all around talent that P has bcum but he is definitley a new talent 2 take notice of 4 the future! And i also love Chucki Booker especially when he was the Music /band Coordinator 4 JJ's Rythm Nation tour. He was an underrated talent! Van Hunt might end up like Lenny Kravitz or Andre Cymone! I lean more toward AC![/quote]
No doubt, We'll see what Mr. Hunt will have up his sleeve. I actually look forward to hearing his CD and get an ear for his music. It's just so hard to fathom the thought of anyone being close to Prince in ANY way, shape or form genre-wise to his career. Yo Bran, you dont know nothin' about Niice N' Wiild LOL That track is as fonky as ALL get out.[/quote] I think Van Hunt needs 2b heard and seen. I think him and Bilal need 2b heard more often than not bcuz these r the cats that can turn R&B music back around! Along with D'angelo and Musiq of course. Back in the day we had Stevie,Marvin,Curtis Mayfield,Prince,Roger,FB&MAZE all puttin their own stamp on things. Nobody had the same producers. All were producers/writers/performers and musicans. That's what i'm lookin 4 2day in a new act. P is the sunlight 4 these brutha's. I think with more support thay can fill that void that's missin in R&B music! P's tryin but needs help some youthful help. And these cats can bring it! U,ME,WE!....2FUNKY! | |
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Mazerati said: i was watching Mtv2 and there was an interview with Van Hunt and he was saying how his is #1 favorite performer and insperation is Prince and he said with all the practice he has had he is now on a level with Prince... hahaa oooook wow thats good news! i'm going to go buy a guitar and if i practice a lot i could be as good as Prince!!! errrrr
[This message was edited Wed Jun 30 3:02:11 2004 by Mazerati] Well I have his album and it is as brilliant as it is magnificent. I did not see the interview but I am sure he was joking a bit wasn't he? Maybe that's just how I read it. Either way I hope more people support this guy because as I said he is wonderful. I tell you his take on relationships is truly amazing. Anyway I can take him trying to compare himself to Prince I mean if you are going to aim it might as well be high!!! Peace THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!! | |
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Yo Bran, you dont know nothin' about Niice N' Wiild LOL That track is as fonky as ALL get out.[/quote]
Man, Please I KNOW! How easy we forget? YOU were the one who told me to get "Niice N' Wiild" remember? I checked out "Frontline" and they bass guitar line is no joke. Definitely reminds me of P or Brownmark. His guitar licks in that track are sweet too. Very James Brownish if you will. Bran Which came first , music or the ear for it? | |
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Mazerati said: i was watching Mtv2 and there was an interview with Van Hunt and he was saying how his is #1 favorite performer and insperation is Prince and he said with all the practice he has had he is now on a level with Prince... hahaa oooook wow thats good news! i'm going to go buy a guitar and if i practice a lot i could be as good as Prince!!! errrrr
[This message was edited Wed Jun 30 3:02:11 2004 by Mazerati] Let's assume that Van Hunt said exactly what you claim he did. What's the big deal? Don't most musicians have inflated egos? Isn't that part of the reason they get into the business? And I am NOT dissin' Prince, he probably has every tight to be confident, but he is one cocky dude. I'm not sure about the source but didn't Prince tell an interviewer that Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic was full of hits? (I'm paraphrashing here) If that is true I'd say he suffered from delusions of grandeur. Bottom line, if Prince can be confident so can anybody else. | |
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Heard this guy's album its pretty smart! prince went up to this guy and said '' hey i heard alot bout u we gotta talk'' but that was as far as it went. prince said he was talented said he will do well if he stays away from the bad people. | |
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So I FINALLY went to Van's website & checked out the samples. I think Sounds of Pleasure (?) could grow on me but they rest was just okay. Good yes, but still a little boring to me. Maybe he's an Alicia Keys type - not so impressive on record but very good live. Nonetheless, I won't be picking up the album any time soon (if ever, it's doubtful). BUT I'm glad dude is a musician & is striving toward a goal as excellent as Prince...
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Supernova said: ButterscotchPimp said: You posted it to start some shit, so all the little purple zombies would be walking around wanting to eat Van's brains.
Yeah,there's some funny stuff on this thread Good discussion though. | |
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I am WAY above Prince's level. At 6'1" I better be. | |
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Novabreaker said: I am WAY above Prince's level. At 6'1" I better be.
Yo Nov, that icon cracks me up Which came first , music or the ear for it? | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: One of the MAIN reason why the ORG SUCKS. All you purple kool-aid drinking weirdos with SELECTIVE HEARING.
All of you can go to MTV'S website and click on MTV2 and do a search for Van Hunt. You can see the interview with Van. AND WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID WAS, and i quote "Prince is my BIGGEST influence. It's very flattering to be compared to him, and i consider it an HONOR. He's a HERO OF MINE, and to think after all the years of practice, that i MIGHT be APPROACHING his level of musicianship, etc, etc, etc." So now all of you GO BACK and listen to the album WITHOUT prejudicial ears and realize that this is one of the most promising debut albums to come along in a VERY long time. EXACTLY!!! all these people here cant wait to dis anyone who says anything that doesnt bow down to prince. as if prince was ever humble! | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: One of the MAIN reason why the ORG SUCKS. All you purple kool-aid drinking weirdos with SELECTIVE HEARING.
All of you can go to MTV'S website and click on MTV2 and do a search for Van Hunt. You can see the interview with Van. AND WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID WAS, and i quote "Prince is my BIGGEST influence. It's very flattering to be compared to him, and i consider it an HONOR. He's a HERO OF MINE, and to think after all the years of practice, that i MIGHT be APPROACHING his level of musicianship, etc, etc, etc." So now all of you GO BACK and listen to the album WITHOUT prejudicial ears and realize that this is one of the most promising debut albums to come along in a VERY long time. So it's not as bad as I thought, but it's still not very modest Not a problem though cuz that makes him quite similar to Prince, who was not modesty's poster boy when he started and then again why should he be with all his talents? The thing with Prince is not that he can play so many instruments, it's that he has a "voice" on each of them. There are actually plenty of multiinstrumentalists... It's just very rare that such ecclectism pays off. | |
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I’m new here so bare with me. Aerogram you said a mouth full regarding VH. From all the posts that were made regarding VH you were the only one mentioning the voice. Does VH have a VOICE that can hang with P? Does he have the charisma, the sexuality that Prince brings to the game? Hell No. He can hang with DeAngelo and company. He’s cool; I can see where P has made an impact on his musical career. He’s ok I would not buy his music. I went to his web site to check him out before voicing my opinion. No I had not heard of him until now. I love music and respect what he’s doing. Another artist name Remy S. who tried to have a little flavor in the voice like P. What happened to him? Anyway you don’t have to like P’s music of late, it’s ok. He’s been their done that and is still doing it. P is taking his music to a whole new level if people let him and quite talking about his old music compared to his new music. P is trying to move on to bigger and better things in the music world. Like he said: I’m older now! He has never been afraid to experiment with words and music. We can play and enjoy his music as we please. He has given us the most beautiful sounds and lyric you can imagine. With P you have many, many songs to listen too! He has been such an inspiration in so many of our lives. When you hear P’s music it brings back old and new memories imbedded in our lives forever. I can relate to some of the comments made by others regarding VH. They do need to hear him, quote him correctly, before judging him. No ones hating. Don’t even try to compare him with P.
You can’t duplicate him, you can’t touch him, nor can you complete with him. There’s only ONE PRINCE! Trust and Believe THAT………….. | |
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pennylover said: I’m new here so bare with me. Aerogram you said a mouth full regarding VH. From all the posts that were made regarding VH you were the only one mentioning the voice. Does VH have a VOICE that can hang with P? Does he have the charisma, the sexuality that Prince brings to the game? Hell No. He can hang with DeAngelo and company. He’s cool; I can see where P has made an impact on his musical career. He’s ok I would not buy his music. I went to his web site to check him out before voicing my opinion. No I had not heard of him until now. I love music and respect what he’s doing. Another artist name Remy S. who tried to have a little flavor in the voice like P. What happened to him? Anyway you don’t have to like P’s music of late, it’s ok. He’s been their done that and is still doing it. P is taking his music to a whole new level if people let him and quite talking about his old music compared to his new music. P is trying to move on to bigger and better things in the music world. Like he said: I’m older now! He has never been afraid to experiment with words and music. We can play and enjoy his music as we please. He has given us the most beautiful sounds and lyric you can imagine. With P you have many, many songs to listen too! He has been such an inspiration in so many of our lives. When you hear P’s music it brings back old and new memories imbedded in our lives forever. I can relate to some of the comments made by others regarding VH. They do need to hear him, quote him correctly, before judging him. No ones hating. Don’t even try to compare him with P.
You can’t duplicate him, you can’t touch him, nor can you complete with him. There’s only ONE PRINCE! Trust and Believe THAT………….. One thing that we must realize is that Van Hunt and Remy Shand are new artists.We can't possibly expect them to have their own "voice",their own flavor,after just one album.It takes several years to develop a style.It wasn't until Prince's third album ("Dirty Mind") where he really began to develop his own sound,style and flavor.We'll have to wait and see where these guys go.One advantage that Prince had....record labels gave artists/bands much more creative freedom back then,and they stuck by their artists.Nowadays,if your first or second CD isn't a big hit,you get dropped by the label.Let's hope that Remy Shand and Van Hunt are allowed the same creative freedom that Prince had. | |
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He must be trippin...
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ButterscotchPimp said: Mazerati said: fuck you all..did i say it was a quote? NO! he said ""Prince is my BIGGEST influence. It's very flattering to be compared to him, and i consider it an HONOR. He's a HERO OF MINE, and to think after all the years of practice, that i MIGHT be APPROACHING his level of musicianship, etc, etc, etc."
his statement wasnt that far off of what i originally said and i still think his comment "i MIGHT be APPROACHING his level of musicianship" still is a fucking joke Um, no. Not letting you off the hook that easily. You titled the f-ing thing "Van Hunt says he's on Prince's level", and that's NOT WHAT HE SAID. You posted it to start some shit, so all the little purple zombies would be walking around wanting to eat Van's brains. If you're going to post some inflammatory shit, then at least take the time to make sure you've got what the person said accurately. And for what adorable2 had to say, I agree that the media is constantly looking for new artists to compare to Prince. You can't blame Van Hunt for that. He's not writing the reviews or telling people to compare him to Prince. As much of a Prince fan as he is, he's said that he'd rather be the next Sly Stone. I will say this, i hadn't been as excited about a debut record since the first time i heard a Prince record. And that's not bullshit. [This message was edited Thu Jul 1 18:21:51 2004 by ButterscotchPimp] I never said I blamed Van Hunt for who the media compares him too. The whole point of my post was I don't care who says it, after a while it gets redundant and people get tired of hearing Prince's name thrown into a conversation with every new flavor of the week. My post says I am digging Van Hunt and I don't question whether he's sincere or genuine however I think new artists do better when they aren't being compared to legends like Prince and Stevie. So what you're saying if he wrote the interview, he would rather compare himself to Sly. That's exactly my point he just needs to be himself rather than the "next" anything just be the first Van Hunt and not the next Sly. | |
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pennylover said:[quote]Does he have the charisma, the sexuality that Prince brings to the game? Hell No. He can hang with D'Angelo and company. He’s cool;
He's not even @ D'Angelo's level yet... come on now, give D a little more credit than that. I'm not saying VH can't get there yet, it's only his first CD but. D is the closest thing you'll get to P as far as vocal wise. shoot.. P is just on some other shyte.. you really can't compare him. Bran Which came first , music or the ear for it? | |
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You have your Prince worshippers & your Prince wannabees. NO artist(s) can touch Prince musically. This Van Hunt guy is a good songwriter from what i heard so far, but to say he is on Prince's level is a joke to me. He is not that well known. | |
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Mazerati said: i was watching Mtv2 and there was an interview with Van Hunt and he was saying how his is #1 favorite performer and insperation is Prince and he said with all the practice he has had he is now on a level with Prince... hahaa oooook wow thats good news! i'm going to go buy a guitar and if i practice a lot i could be as good as Prince!!! errrrr
[This message was edited Wed Jun 30 3:02:11 2004 by Mazerati] Van is an awesome musician and producer, but he's no Prince. He still needs major work on his stage presence. | |
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brante said:[quote] pennylover said: He's not even @ D'Angelo's level yet... come on now, give D a little more credit than that.
D'Angelo, Maxwell, Rashaan P., Van Hunt... sound all the same to me. They're talented but i'm not sure they'll ever get out of that 'nu-soul/ classic soul' sound if u know what i mean. They're sweet but can they do something else than what they're doing now? Sure these guys are talented but no way they are on Prince level. Prince is far more eclectic than these guys, they have to go a loooong way before they achieve (artistically) what Prince did. James Brown, Stevie Wonder, Jimi Hendrickx, Prince, Bob Marley,... now we're talking! | |
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- [This message was edited Tue Jul 6 9:14:49 2004 by Moonwalkbjrain] Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Moonwalkbjrain said: damn dude just came out and he already got a big head....its the second commin of Terrence Trent i'm tellin ya! research b4 you post! VH didn't "just come out!" -He's been producing and writing forever. Just b/c his first album came out this year, don't assume he's new. -Check the liner notes for Rahsaan Patterson's stuff. VH produced all of it. -Check Cree Summer's liner notes. -Look at VH's liner notes. Wendy's on it. Randy Jackson's on it. They go way back like ginger snaps. -the man plays all instuments, writes all his music, produces all his stuff and some other folks' stuff. reading is fundamental. -but I guess it's not your fault that you can't do a search in the Music: Other Artists (not Prince) forum. VH is all over that forum. This discussion has been had. And if you really want to be educated, read his interview with Foley. -this post is especially for: Moonwalkbjrain, FiveFootNine and violett. (I'm namin' na actually i do b n the other artist forum thank u very much. but i'm not n there 2 b researchin van hunt as if i'm bout 2 right a book or sumthin bcuz personally van hunt just doesn't tickle my fancy...but maybe i shouldn't say that til AFTER i've heard his whole album right? also i do not own any of the above mentioned artists cds so i could not possibly kno what he played on.excuse me 4 bein soo naive bout vh musical backround. I don't think all people who don't like this are drinking purple kool aid. I just think it seems that recently everyone has been throwing Prince's name around too frequently. It's like it's not enough you're in the game unless you're compared to Prince in some form or fashion. It used to be Stevie but now it's Prince. I'm not saying Van Hunt isn't true or genuine, it just gets redundant that's all. I don't mind artists giving him his props but it seems that isn't enough they don't just stop there, it always ends in some form of comparison. Anyway I am diggin Van Hunt's music. I just think artists do better when they refrain from being compared to others. I mean it's undeniable how many artists have directly influenced Lenny Kravitz yet he hates it when a writer brings up Prince everytime he does an interview you can just see it. He has mad love for P but he still wants to be respected for who he is. I do like Van Hunt but for what Van Hunt does and I think if he can keep that in perspective, he'll do well as an artist not just as a writer or musician.
thats bcuz its the "in" thing 2 like prince and 2 give prince his props. [This message was edited Tue Jul 6 9:06:09 2004 by Moonwalkbjrain] [This message was edited Tue Jul 6 9:26:17 2004 by Moonwalkbjrain] Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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enjoyniki said: He was on the radio doing an interview several months back(NYC) and when asked if he has a lot of women he said "yes".
When asked again, if he gets as many woman as Prince he said "yes". That is when I knew this guy was full of it. Especially considering that he's married. | |
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Van is talented and I enjoy his album. I don't think he is displaying a lack of humility so much as being misinterpreted.
That said, I thought Cree Summer's Street Faerie was a House of Suck. You better wake up, Stella. This is my town! | |
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DavidEye said: One thing that we must realize is that Van Hunt and Remy Shand are new artists.We can't possibly expect them to have their own "voice",their own flavor,after just one album.It takes several years to develop a style.It wasn't until Prince's third album ("Dirty Mind") where he really began to develop his own sound,style and flavor.We'll have to wait and see where these guys go.One advantage that Prince had....record labels gave artists/bands much more creative freedom back then,and they stuck by their artists.Nowadays,if your first or second CD isn't a big hit,you get dropped by the label.Let's hope that Remy Shand and Van Hunt are allowed the same creative freedom that Prince had.
Again, not true. This is VH's first CD, but he is far from being a new artist. Read the other posts. Remy isn't either. He recorded his stuff way back in the 90s before it was ever released. Definitely not new. *Just b/c an artist only has one project out, doesn't negate that they're new.* brante said: pennylover said: Does he have the charisma, the sexuality that Prince brings to the game? Hell No. He can hang with D'Angelo and company. He’s cool;
He's not even @ D'Angelo's level yet... come on now, give D a little more credit than that. I'm not saying VH can't get there yet, it's only his first CD but. D is the closest thing you'll get to P as far as vocal wise. shoot.. P is just on some other shyte.. you really can't compare him. co-sign. He isn't close to D'Lo! Have you people even seen D'Lo live? As soon as VH works on his live performance, he'll be okay. America needs him to rock out! Jump up and down or wave his hands....something! Anything!!! ...and a special thank you goes out to my boy, BlaqueKnight. "Pedro offers you his protection." | |
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