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Thread started 06/27/04 8:54am

meltwithu

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how many of Sheila E's songs did Prince really write?

Glamorous Life? Y or N
Love Bizarre? Y or N
Koo Koo? Y or N
Hold Me? Y or N
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Reply #1 posted 06/27/04 9:03am

TheBigBang

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meltwithu said:

Glamorous Life? Y or N
Love Bizarre? Y or N
Koo Koo? Y or N
Hold Me? Y or N


Y
Y
N
N

This is based on what's registered with the ASCAP.
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Reply #2 posted 06/27/04 10:04am

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He wrote (or co-wrote* with Sheila):

The Glamorous Life
A Love Bizarre*
Koo Koo*

At the Library of Congress, authorship of words and music for 'The Glamorous Life' is attributed to Jamie Starr (Prince), and the claimant is given as 'Girlsongs'. At ASCAP, the writer is given as Prince.

In the case of 'A Love Bizarre', the authorship registered at the Library of Congress is jointly shared by Prince and Sheila for both words and music. Similarly. at ASCAP the writers are given as Sheila E and Prince

In the case of 'Koo Koo', although the author registered at both the Library of Congress and ASCAP is given as Sheila, the publishing company credit is shared jointly between Prince (Girlsongs) and Sheila E (Sister Fate Music).

He didn't write the song 'Hold Me' recorded by Sheila E, but he wrote a song by the same title recorded by Jevetta Steele.
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Reply #3 posted 06/27/04 10:44am

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langebleu said:

He wrote (or co-wrote* with Sheila):

The Glamorous Life
A Love Bizarre*
Koo Koo*

At the Library of Congress, authorship of words and music for 'The Glamorous Life' is attributed to Jamie Starr (Prince), and the claimant is given as 'Girlsongs'. At ASCAP, the writer is given as Prince.

In the case of 'A Love Bizarre', the authorship registered at the Library of Congress is jointly shared by Prince and Sheila for both words and music. Similarly. at ASCAP the writers are given as Sheila E and Prince

In the case of 'Koo Koo', although the author registered at both the Library of Congress and ASCAP is given as Sheila, the publishing company credit is shared jointly between Prince (Girlsongs) and Sheila E (Sister Fate Music).

He didn't write the song 'Hold Me' recorded by Sheila E, but he wrote a song by the same title recorded by Jevetta Steele.
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Reply #4 posted 06/27/04 8:27pm

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All of "Glamorus Life"

All of "Romance 1600" except Merci 4 The Speed Of A Clown In The Summer
On Sheila E he wrote / cowrote:

One Day Gonna Make U Mine
Koo Koo
Boys Club
Pride & Passion
Love On A Blue Train
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Reply #5 posted 06/28/04 10:14am

TheBigBang

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I've always been curious to how much involvement one would have to have in the creation of a song to get a co-writing credit alongside Prince? How much freedom does he give you? How many ideas of your own would he take into consideration?
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Reply #6 posted 06/28/04 10:16am

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all of 'em?
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Reply #7 posted 06/28/04 11:40am

superspaceboy

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I have been curious about 2 b-sides...Save the People...and The World is High. Did Prince write these? I am thinking so...Certainly The World is High didn't even have Shelia on it , though it's a b-side of Hold Me.

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Reply #8 posted 06/28/04 12:01pm

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superspaceboy said:

I have been curious about 2 b-sides...Save the People...and The World is High. Did Prince write these? I am thinking so...Certainly The World is High didn't even have Shelia on it , though it's a b-side of Hold Me.


Don't forget 'Too Sexy' smile

Whilst anything I've read (in print) states they aren't Prince compositions, I can't help but think he must have had some involvement - Too Sexy sounds like a The Time track.

Save The People and Paradise Gardens, sound instrumentally like Prince, but again, I've never read they were written by (or with him).

Hmmm, will have to dig out the old vinyl to see if there's any credits confused
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Reply #9 posted 06/28/04 12:05pm

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Records that Prince was involved with...the credits on them are very random. Sometimes people are credited with things they didn't do, sometimes not for things they did.
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Reply #10 posted 06/28/04 12:12pm

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unremarkable said:

Records that Prince was involved with...the credits on them are very random. Sometimes people are credited with things they didn't do, sometimes not for things they did.


Forget the credits on the sleeve.

We're talking about actual credits, Library of Congress, publishing credits, and information from studio logs and reports from people who were at the recordings (i.e. the basis of information for the research for the Uptown books).
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Reply #11 posted 06/28/04 1:12pm

liebdinge

when and why did he go by the name of Jamie Starr?
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Reply #12 posted 06/28/04 3:09pm

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liebdinge said:

when and why did he go by the name of Jamie Starr?



from 1980 to about 1984 he went by the name Jamie Starr. The "Starr Company" as his production co. was called was to allow him the artistic freedom of writing for many artist during the time period without having it be thought that he was trying to single handly control the R&B scene (also Prince was making a bid to crossover to POP and did not want the confusion) At this time Prince was undoubtably the "Puff Daddy, Teddy Riley, RKelly, Babyface, and Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis" (ironic with them) of the day

Later he still wrote music for others using many other names from Joey CoCo to Camile to
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Reply #13 posted 06/29/04 4:45pm

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NouveauDance said:

unremarkable said:

Records that Prince was involved with...the credits on them are very random. Sometimes people are credited with things they didn't do, sometimes not for things they did.


Forget the credits on the sleeve.

We're talking about actual credits, Library of Congress, publishing credits, and information from studio logs and reports from people who were at the recordings (i.e. the basis of information for the research for the Uptown books).


'Save The People'

At the Library of Congress, Sheila gets sole writing, arrangement, performance and production credit according to the title. However, the musical authorship is jointly shared with Benjamin Rietveld. I can't find a reference to the song at ASCAP.

'The World Is High'

At the Library of Congress, authorship is shared jointly with Levi Seacer, as corroborated at ASCAP

'Paradise Gardens'

At the Library of Congress, this is registered jointly with Constance M Guzman for both words and music. I cannot trace the title being registered at ASCAP.

'Too Sexy'

At the Library of Congress, authorship is jointly shared by Sheila E., Michael Weaver, Benjamin Rietveld and Stephen Birnbaum. The collaboration is registered against the music indicating that Sheila was the sole lyricist. These authorship details are confirmed at ASCAP.

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Reply #14 posted 06/29/04 4:59pm

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unremarkable said:

Records that Prince was involved with...the credits on them are very random. Sometimes people are credited with things they didn't do, sometimes not for things they did.


And yet takes credit for other peoples stuff...or doesn't give proper credit to them.

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