what are people's thoughts on the osama bin laden lyric?
i did a search, but that area of the site is unavailable.

i mean, i think it's interesting that he was singing a song about
a guy who a few months later would be known as the face of al-queda,
a militant islamic group that was waging a holy war against the usa
that would result in 9-11?

i was conscious of bin laden before 9-11, but i couldn't recognize his face
until that day.

was i just horribly out of the loop on current events? or is prince psychic? a prophet?

or maybe he was just calling attention to what anyone paying attention to world events could see as an immenent threat?

any thoughts?
please forgive miss-spellings
thnx

ColdCoffee said:

firstly, where is this quoted?
Secondly, Osama was on the FBI's most wanted list before 9/11, was considered guilty of many terrorist attacks prior to 9/11, and had the reputation of a brutal ruler of the distraught nation of Afghanistan. I remember many articles about the atrocities that went on over there, but they went unnoticed.

Specifically I remember the taliban shooting rockets at what were considered to be the largest buddhist statues in the world, carved into mountain sides more than 500 years ago. I also remember a documentary on the state of women in Afghanistan produced by a Canadian journalist and shown about a month before the attacks.

So yeah, Osama was well known, but just not an issue as long as he wasn't harming americans.

Prince is *not* a prophet!

I'm sure you could find songs that mention other political boogey-men, it doesn't mean the singer is the 2nd coming.

Prince, the greatest lover in the world
Prince, the sexual sadist
Prince, the prophet
Prince, the cult victim
Prince, the psychic
Prince, the asshole
Prince, the devil worshipper
Prince, the racist

There ain't nothin' the little man hasn't been called.

http://64.233.161.104/sea...b%22&hl=en

Hidden message in my New Year's greetings 2002?
My New Year's greetings, references linked throughout.

A Happy New Year, Or The Dutch John Walker?
Washington, Dec. 31 - The first Dutchman suspected of spreading hidden messages. New Year's Greetings, Or The Dutch John Walker? An intricate story by our investigative reporter Seymour Woodstein. About Iraqi grocers, Prince, apple pie and tomatoes. And of course: the mysterious Red Digital Numbers Generating Object. Read the full story on page 3! And be sure to also read the story on the real John Walker.

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--REPRINTED FROM PAGE 3--

December 31, 2001

New Year's Greetings, Or The Dutch John Walker?
By Seymour Woodstein

Rotterdam, the Netherlands, Dec. 31 - Shortly before he left his house to visit the Iraqi grocery 'Al-Manar' around the corner, Igor Boog turned off the lights in his living room.

He couldn't have known that Dutch Intelligence Services were staking him out, because they weren't. Anyhow, with the lights turned off, their job became more difficult. Maybe he suspected that journalists were watching his house. Or maybe he just wanted to save power. We might never know.

Mr. Boog, age unknown, the first Dutchman suspected of spreading hidden messages, today spent more than one tenth of an hour with the Iraqi grocer in the shop at the Nieuwe Binnenweg, right in the centre of Rotterdam, the city he always loved for the water, the film festival, the small restaurants, and this mysterious Red Digital Numbers Generating Object at the south side of the Erasmus Bridge. We don't know what his conversation with the Iraqi was about, because, as mentioned before, Dutch Intelligence wasn't following him yet, and your trustworthy reporter was having doner kebab at the time, a bit further down the very same street.

What Mr. Boog was doing in the moments before he sent out his potentially disastrous message was clear, although accounts of exactly how much apple pie he consumed vary. He was visiting an Iranian friend for dinner, and he was inciting innocent Dutch citizens also present at the Iranian painter's house. Mr. Boog was spreading the story that some Muslims in the Middle East celebrate Ramadan drinking wodka and eating hot sausages.

Now, although Salman Rushdie declared in the New York Times that the situation in the world really has something to do with Islam, president George Bush said that it has nothing to do with Islam. And prime minister Tony Blair said the Arabs in general have nothing to do with it. As the Observer newspaper reported, many journalists are mistaken when they use the inciting and offensive word 'ragheads' when they refer to Arabs. It's the Afghanis who are ragheads; the Arabs are towel heads.

For those who didn't know his past history, Mr. Boog's incitement came as a total surprise. A homeless man, who entered the street right after Mr. Boog left for his mysterious encounter with the Iraqi grocer, was almost speechless when confronted with the news by your persevering reporter: "Wha...? Who...?" he said. "Messa...? Please leave me alone? Wodka? Huh? Go away! Grrrmh. Eh... I mean, do you have a guilder for me? Euro? Whatever? I want to eat something," he added.

The vagrant wasn't available for further comments, but he clearly didn't know that Mr. Boog was a fan of pop artist Prince in the eighties, and that he listened to albums like 'Dirty Mind' and 'Controversy' at a very young age. In civilized nations like the United States and the Marshall Islands, even 18 year olds are not allowed to even look at albums like that. And there is something much more serious about this early connection with the infamous pop artist. First of all, according to the FBI, one of the nicknames of Osama Bin Laden is Prince. Second: on December the 24th, 1998 (note: in 1998), Prince ended his performance at his secret after party in the Tivoli theatre in Utrecht, the Netherlands, with the words: "Bin Laden, get ready to bomb! America, you better watch out! 2001!" (See note 1 below.) Could there be a not wholly unexpected connection between the two controversial and dirty minded men? The Arab and the African American? And what is Mr. Boog's role in all this?

Mr. Boog visited several Prince concerts in the late eighties. In the same period, he started travelling in the Middle East. This might be a coincidence, but our sources at the Dutch Intelligence Services confirm that it, like so much else, might indeed not be a coincidence. A few years later, in the early nineties, Mr. Boog was photographed on the Afghan border, with a beard and holding a gun. This photograph was obtained by your faithful reporter, together with two other photographs of the suspect at an even younger age (see photo), from which professional behaviorist observers under laboratory conditions made out an early tendency of cheekiness. Testimonials from several of Mr. Boog's parents' friends seem to support this observation. One of them said, "Already when he was four years old, he kept watching and watching and watching you, up to the point you got quite nervous."

Studying documents about Mr. Boog that are readily available on the Internet reveals that the suspect has been in touch with Iranian and Syrian vagrants, Palestinian and Lebanese victims of massacres, that he recently has been considering the purchase of a F-117A stealth bomber, and that he likes olives. From several overheard conversations it's clear that he on rare occasions is requested to give someone food and recently promised to bring this same person one tomato. Moreover, he several times admitted to friends that he has been eating out on the Red Square in Moscow at the time communism collapsed. There, he also had tomatoes.

Again, just like on September 11th, the Intelligence community appears to have been totally in the dark about Mr. Boog's intentions. Nobody even understood his incitement in the house of the Iranian painter to be a clear warning sign. Up to now, only Osama Bin Laden and Tony Blair (see note 2 below) have been suspected of using hidden messages. Who would have thought that Mr. Boog, devoted lover of cookies and pure Belgian chocolate, would be suspected of the same?

Was it not for the professionalism of John Doe, whose real name, which we don't know, is kept a secret by the FBI, a disaster could have happened. Mr. Doe works for Echelon, the international spy network, and was out on a date with a girl. To impress the young woman, he demonstrated his special equipment to listen in to private citizens' phone calls. Mr. Doe and the girl enjoyed the conversations of other people, especially the conversations about relationships, Doe admitted in an exclusive interview with this newspaper. "Suddenly," said Doe, "A young man with a Rotterdam number who previously only talked about relationships, started talking about statistics. Then he talked about Hezbollah. And then he said he just bought tomatoes from an Iraqi, and now wanted to write a message wishing all his friends around the world a happy New Year. I didn't understand anything of it. But my girlfriend immediately said: the Red Digital Numbers Generating Object! And I knew I had something there and I pushed the red button! I mean, I called my chief. He didn't understand anything my girlfriend said, but he has to follow the policy: check and possibly torture everybody who talks on the phone about Hezbollah and who buys tomatoes from Iraqis. It's not for nothing that the French prevented the European Union from putting Hezbollah on their own list of terrorist groups."

Echelon intercepted Mr. Boog's suspected message, his New Year's greetings, and John Doe's girlfriend is a potential hero. The only part of the message that the FBI deemed safe to show exclusively to this newspaper is: "A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR!"

If it wasn't for Doe's girlfriend, terrorists might have read the message Mr. Boog sent, the very same message that very well could contain hidden messages. And who knows what happens when terrorists read messages that might contain hidden messages. Suppose a terrorist is unable to find a hidden message in a suspected message. Out of frustration he might become an evil doer in practice and blow up something. What would happen when a terrorist would blow up this mysterious Red Digital Numbers Generating Object on the south side of the Erasmus Bridge in Rotterdam? Would he then be a terrorist according to the definition of the State Department? This could spark a debate in NATO about what terrorism exactly is, and that would be a disaster.

What the hell do those red digital numbers mean? We will find out in 2002.

NOTES

(1) Prince in his last song in Tivoli, 24 December 1998:

"I've gotta go home y'all...
I've gotta go back to America
I've gotta go get ready for the bomb
Osama Bin Laden getting ready to bomb" (repeated several times)

then later in the song:

"Osama Bin Laden getting ready to bomb
America... you better watch out... 2001"

Oh well, probably Prince chanted "2001" because he used a theme of 'Also Sprach Zarathustra' (used in '2001: A Space Odyssey') in the jam session. On September 18th, a Dutch radio station broadcast part of the bootleg cd from the concert. A mp3 recording from this radio broadcast is available on the Internet (1.6 Mb). Part of the bootleg cd itself is also easy to find on the Net (12.4 Mb)...

(2) SPIN-ON-THIS.COM, Oct. 14 - British TV viewers have contacted broadcasting authorities to request that they stop broadcasting speeches by Tony Blair. It's thought that the speeches may contain hidden messages because "the visible messages are obviously complete bollocks." The request came in response to news that the government wants 'total news control so that no dissent is ever heard '. Some have been surprised at this request; "funny, I thought they'd already fixed that."

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--REPRINTED FROM PAGE 1, second edition--

December 31, 2001, second edition

Suspected Hidden Message Removed From Archive
By The Artist Formerly Known As Tony Blair

London, Dec. 31 - Today's article "New Year's Greetings, Or The Dutch John Walker?" has been removed from our electronic and paper archives. After long deliberation, our editor in chief has decided to take this unprecedented action, because, according to an anonymous editor, "there could be hidden messages" in the article. "According to unconfirmed reports, we were tipped off by an anonymous intelligence source who warned us that the journalist who wrote this article is none other than Igor Boog, writing under a pseudonym," said the editor. "To be honest, we never check the real identities of our free-lancers and stringers," the editor added. "And you cannot be too careful. Maybe he only wanted to wish everybody a happy New Year. But you never know these days. Didn't George Bush say that 2002 would be a 'war year' too?" The anonymous intelligence source reportedly has requested all readers of this article to burn the concerned article, and to at all costs prevent the article from ending up at places where potential terrorists could find it. Don't throw the newspaper away. Don't use the newspaper to wrap presents. Don't wrap fish in the newspaper. To be on the safe side, don't read any newspaper ever again.

Wow, is this for real? What boot can this be heard on?

yeah i remeber this, by in 2001 everyone was kidna shocked about it at the time.

i am afraid of prince.

This again?

Famboozled said:

Go easy on the newbies

.

I attended this show in Tivoli ...

"Osama Bin Laden getting ready to bomb"

...thought it was kinda funky!

I didn't know at that time who Osama was, but I do now. Actually the boot made me really aware what he was singing! I think most of the people there (including me) just thought it was a funky chant! To me Prince seems a bit of a profet.... I mean, how could he know?

I don't know if the boot came out on CD as I downloaded it. Lenny Kravits, Candy and Candy's father (Hans Dulfer) were there on the gig too and lasted 2, 5 hours ...

Well he was behind the first WTC bombing back in the 90's. I guess Prince didn't forget and going by some of his lyrics through the years, he does seem to keep an eye on World events. Hardly means he's a prophet or there's anything spooky about it.

Marrk said:

Yep, that's a better way to say that...!

Still he said it one year before the actual WTC-event? Even journalists didn't say this, so why would a popstar..?

newdawn said:

The aftershow you say you attended was back in '98.

So, in fact, it was three years before the WTC event.

.

osama's guys had bombed a US warship in '99, not long before did the song - so osama was topical is all - no big deal - no major prophecy there. it was always on the cards that osama or someone like him would turn on the States, you cant dish the shit out over decades and not have it eventually come back to bite you on the ass.
Anyways, osama never "bombed" america when you think about it - if prince had sung "osama bin ladens gettin ready to fly planes into the twin towers and the pentagon" then yea, i would said, "fuckin dudes a prophetic nostrudamus!" - but there was never any BOMB - not like the thousands that BUSH has dropped on Afganistan ("but now we've got the pipelines") or Iraq ("and now we've got the oil")


"Who said that 2 kill is a sin
And started every single war that your people been in?"

Didn't Donald Trump mention something about terrorist flying planes into the WTC in one of his books way before it happened? Does that make Trump a prophet? All hail the comb-over!

Famboozled said:

yup, like i said, i was curious to see some discussion about this, and my search yielded nothing. sorry to re-hash.

i don't think prince is a prophet(i was just trying to open conversation), but i do think the accuracy of his prediction is remarkable, and in traditional prince fashion.

i mean, who else was singing about this? with this specificity?

You know what's even more interesting? The recent abduction in Iraq of this Korean hostage is being attributed to a group calling themselves "Monotheism and Jihad".

"...the opposite of NATO is monotheism..." - Muse 2 The Pharoah, One Nite Alone...Live

Jestyr said:

So what?. That has nothing to do with Prince. Monothesim is a term meaning the worship of one god instead of several. Anyone who knows anything about philosophy or the history of the religions would know this term. It's not as if Prince made up the word or anything. It's like saying "In the song Darling Nikki Prince sings "masturbating with a magazine", and just today I masterbated with a magazine, so he MUST be psychic!"

SpudMonkey said:

um isn't the boot from '98?

pbrite said:

lol bout the comb over part....."

like o mi god o mi god!!! prince is a prophet ahhh what will he prophisize next the re election of bush? lol...all hail the purple midget diped in oil and rolled in pubic hair...lol

adorable2 said:

The aftershow was 24th December 1998 (AM) - Tivoli, Utrecht.

The 'Osama gettin' ready to bomb' chant was mentioned as part of the song 'Also Sprach Zarathustra' (the theme from the film 2001: A Space Odyessy) - so the 2001 part is most likely an unfortunate coincidence.

In February 1998, bin Ladin declared 'war' on the West:

http://www.ict.org.il/art...fatwah.htm

Conclusion: Prince keeps an eye on current events.

NouveauDance said:

Coincidences do NOT exist

bluelight said:

That's a matter of opinion.