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Thread started 07/04/04 2:48am

silverchild

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Is 1999 A Masterwork Or What?

I just reviewed this album on www.amazon.com and I gave it 5 stars straight up. It's such a long album, but the whole album clocks at about 70 minutes. It has the classics: 1999, Little Red Corvette, D.M.S.R, and Delirious. I really think that this along with Sign O The Times and Purple Rain is one of the definitive statements of the 80's. 1999 is a masterwork that has Prince playing every synthesizer, drum, bass, & guitar you can think of. What do you think of it. Post your opinions.
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Reply #1 posted 07/04/04 3:06am

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1999 is what established Prince as a star in the US. It paved the way for his global success.

The album, of course, is genius. Any album where an artist takes his time and let the songs BREATHE is to be congratulated.

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Reply #2 posted 07/04/04 4:53am

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1999 starstarstarstar

1999 starstarstarstarstar
Little Red Corvette starstarstarstarstar
Delirious starstar
Let's Pretend We're Married starstarstarstar
D.M.S.R. starstarstarstarstar
Automatic starstarstar
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) starstarstarstar
Free starstar
Lady Cab Driver starstarstarstarstar
All The Critics Love U In New York starstarstarstar
International Lover star

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Reply #3 posted 07/04/04 4:55am

MrSquiggle

silverchild said:

Is 1999 A Masterwork Or What?


Honestly? No. It's WAY too long. Every track on 1999 feels like an extra-long 12" mix. Do we really need eight minutes of DMSR?
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Reply #4 posted 07/04/04 4:58am

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1999 starstarstarstarstar

1999 starstarstarstar
Little Red Corvette starstarstarstarstar
Delirious star
Let's Pretend We're Married starstarstarstarstar
D.M.S.R. starstarstarstarstar
Automatic starstarstarstarstar
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute) starstarstarstar
Free starstarstar
Lady Cab Driver starstarstarstarstar
All The Critics Love U In New York starstarstar
International Lover starstar

And DMSR & Automatic should be LONGER!!!! fight lol
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Reply #5 posted 07/04/04 4:58am

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MrSquiggle said:

silverchild said:

Is 1999 A Masterwork Or What?


Honestly? No. It's WAY too long. Every track on 1999 feels like an extra-long 12" mix. Do we really need eight minutes of DMSR?


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. smile
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Reply #6 posted 07/04/04 5:16am

PurpleCharm

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1999

And DMSR & Automatic should be LONGER!!!! fight lol

lol lol

Why is the length of a song relevant to whether or not one likes the song? confused

The length of those two songs is like extra icing on the cake. It just enhances something that is already good.

1999 is a five star album in my book. The weak points are Free and Delirious, but because all the other songs are exceptionally good, it pretty much cancels out the mediocrity of those two songs.

1999 turned me out... wink
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Reply #7 posted 07/04/04 5:21am

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I think it's a real shame that How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore was a b side. That's a 5 star song. It should've replaced International Lover as the album closer. sad
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Reply #8 posted 07/04/04 5:22am

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Ummm..YES!!!!
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Reply #9 posted 07/04/04 5:22am

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Cloudbuster said:

I think it's a real shame that How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore was a b side. That's a 5 star song. It should've replaced International Lover as the album closer. sad


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Reply #10 posted 07/04/04 5:23am

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CalhounSq said:

Cloudbuster said:

I think it's a real shame that How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore was a b side. That's a 5 star song. It should've replaced International Lover as the album closer. sad


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Reply #11 posted 07/04/04 9:34am

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MrSquiggle said:

silverchild said:

Is 1999 A Masterwork Or What?


Honestly? No. It's WAY too long. Every track on 1999 feels like an extra-long 12" mix. Do we really need eight minutes of DMSR?



Why yes we DO need 8 minutes of D.M.S.R., the 1999 album is just fine the way it is. Damn kids.
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Reply #12 posted 07/04/04 9:36am

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EverlastingNow said:

Why yes we DO need 8 minutes of D.M.S.R., the 1999 album is just fine the way it is. Damn kids.


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Reply #13 posted 07/04/04 10:25am

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I've already posted why 1999 is so great at least a couple of times in this forum in the past (so I won't repeat it any time soon), and I steadfastly refuse to be swayed that SOTT is superior to it. hmph! Don't give a rat's ass what anybody says. I also think the people who complain about the length of the songs on 1999 are a bunch of ninny pop fans whose attention spans rarely allow for anything outside of 3 or 4 minutes of traditional song structure.


That is all.
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Reply #14 posted 07/04/04 10:28am

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you need ALL of DMSR homes.. that track is the BOMB as well as the whole album 1999 which in my opinion was the best Prince album ever. That was the prelude to Purple Rain but..... 1999 was the groundbreaker. The flow and chemistry of every song is Gold. P was and still is.. Amazing

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Reply #15 posted 07/04/04 10:39am

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Supernova said:

I've already posted why 1999 is so great at least a couple of times in this forum in the past (so I won't repeat it any time soon), and I steadfastly refuse to be swayed that SOTT is superior to it. hmph! Don't give a rat's ass what anybody says. I also think the people who complain about the length of the songs on 1999 are a bunch of ninny pop fans whose attention spans rarely allow for anything outside of 3 or 4 minutes of traditional song structure.


That is all.


lol Snob! razz

Some lengthy songs are fine, Joint 2 Joint, Come, Sleep Around, Lady Cab Driver and Crystal Ball spring to mind. But a song has gotta go somewhere to keep my interest. The problem with some of the tracks on 1999 is that they're too repetitious. But hey, there's joy in that sometimes. wink
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Reply #16 posted 07/04/04 10:53am

CookieMonster

Cloudbuster said:

The problem with some of the tracks on 1999 is that they're too repetitious.


Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
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Reply #17 posted 07/04/04 10:55am

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CookieMonster said:

Cloudbuster said:

The problem with some of the tracks on 1999 is that they're too repetitious.


Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.
Those were called the 80's. It was all about repetition.


In a strange kind of way I'm turned on by that. smile
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Reply #18 posted 07/04/04 10:56am

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Cloudbuster said:

MrSquiggle said:



Honestly? No. It's WAY too long. Every track on 1999 feels like an extra-long 12" mix. Do we really need eight minutes of DMSR?


I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. smile


Though I think that was the point of the record. You couldn't possibly remix them or make them longer. It was meant for the DJ's.

To me Dirty Mind was a masterpiece...or the beginning of conceptual albums that would come forth. 1999 was the first album that gelled with this concept..IMO.

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Reply #19 posted 07/04/04 11:16am

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1999

1999- star star star star
Little Red Corvette - star star star star star
Delirious - star star
Let's Pretend We're Married- star star star star
D.M.S.R.- star star star star 1/2
Automatic- star star star star
Something In The Water (Does Not Compute)- star star star star star
Free- star star star star star
Lady Cab Driver- star star star star
All The Critics Love U In New York- star star star star
International Lover- star star star star star

Overall rating- star star star star star

Definitely a masterwork. My third favourite Prince album ever behind Sign 'O' the Times and Purple Rain.
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Reply #20 posted 07/04/04 11:22am

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superspaceboy said:

Cloudbuster said:



I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. smile


Though I think that was the point of the record. You couldn't possibly remix them or make them longer. It was meant for the DJ's.

To me Dirty Mind was a masterpiece...or the beginning of conceptual albums that would come forth. 1999 was the first album that gelled with this concept..IMO.


I actually think that Dirty Mind-era and album was the sign of things to come fo Prince. You know, if you look at the pictures of him in this era, he had the boots, the pants, the hair, and the rock and funk. But Dirty Mind is a masterpiece... A concept if you say, the beginning. He was finally in form.
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Reply #21 posted 07/04/04 11:44am

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To me Dirty Mind was a masterpiece...or the beginning of conceptual albums that would come forth. 1999 was the first album that gelled with this concept..IMO.[/quote]

I actually think that Dirty Mind-era and album was the sign of things to come fo Prince. You know, if you look at the pictures of him in this era, he had the boots, the pants, the hair, and the rock and funk. But Dirty Mind is a masterpiece... A concept if you say, the beginning. He was finally in form.[/quote]

i guess you can say a concept definitely in place but he perfected that bad boy on 1999. No doubt by then, history was takiing place.
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Reply #22 posted 07/04/04 12:16pm

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Supernova said:

I've already posted why 1999 is so great at least a couple of times in this forum in the past (so I won't repeat it any time soon), and I steadfastly refuse to be swayed that SOTT is superior to it. hmph! Don't give a rat's ass what anybody says. I also think the people who complain about the length of the songs on 1999 are a bunch of ninny pop fans whose attention spans rarely allow for anything outside of 3 or 4 minutes of traditional song structure.


That is all.


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Reply #23 posted 07/04/04 2:54pm

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Yes, it's a Masterwork!

No, it wasn't his first!

This boy is BAD! nod
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Reply #24 posted 07/04/04 4:13pm

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Supernova said:

I've already posted why 1999 is so great at least a couple of times in this forum in the past (so I won't repeat it any time soon), and I steadfastly refuse to be swayed that SOTT is superior to it. hmph! Don't give a rat's ass what anybody says. I also think the people who complain about the length of the songs on 1999 are a bunch of ninny pop fans whose attention spans rarely allow for anything outside of 3 or 4 minutes of traditional song structure.


That is all.



I like the way you think. Purple Rain wasn't as satisfying because of the shortened songs. Like Gooey said, songs should be allowed to breathe. Prince, or somebody in his camp, knew that he had to shorten the songs and keep the album at a minimum length to hold the attentions of teens and casual music listeners.

1999 is THE masterwork in Prince's catalogue and International Lover is perfect where it is. How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore wouldn't be a good album closer and really isn't progressive enough to fit on this album. It has a different feel
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Reply #25 posted 07/04/04 4:21pm

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1999 was intended as a party anthem album. It was the fucking soundtrack for every house party back then, and that shit still gets people off their asses. The songs were supposed to be long.

The editing on MTV made alot of y'all some ADD muthafukkas.
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Reply #26 posted 07/04/04 4:30pm

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Honestly? No. It's WAY too long. Every track on 1999 feels like an extra-long 12" mix. Do we really need eight minutes of DMSR?

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Reply #27 posted 07/05/04 12:58am

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squirrelgrease said:

1999 was intended as a party anthem album. It was the fucking soundtrack for every house party back then, and that shit still gets people off their asses. The songs were supposed to be long.

The editing on MTV made alot of y'all some ADD muthafukkas.


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Reply #28 posted 07/05/04 1:43am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

MrSquiggle said:

Honestly? No. It's WAY too long. Every track on 1999 feels like an extra-long 12" mix. Do we really need eight minutes of DMSR?

yes. we. DO. evil


If 1999 was a compilation entitled "1999: The 12" Mixes" containing ridiculously long dance remixes of classic songs with sensible lengths, it would be great. I never thought I would tire of the groove in the 1999 title track, but at 6 minutes it totally wears out. "Mommy? Why are all these songs so damn long?"
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Reply #29 posted 07/05/04 1:58am

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MrSquiggle said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


yes. we. DO. evil


If 1999 was a compilation entitled "1999: The 12" Mixes" containing ridiculously long dance remixes of classic songs with sensible lengths, it would be great. I never thought I would tire of the groove in the 1999 title track, but at 6 minutes it totally wears out. "Mommy? Why are all these songs so damn long?"


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