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Thread started 06/21/04 8:18pm

Mazerati

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clear channel and Prince

after going to http://www.clearchanneladds.com and noticing that "Call My Name" didnt have a single add in the last month at a clear channel station i emailed them and asked them

"I have heard that Clear Channel stations refuse to play anything new by Prince from his Musicology album... is this true? it would be a shame because it is a great album and it has sold very well"

and the reply from clear channel was

"???

Never heard of any such edict. Totally up to local programming"



ha.. bullshit!
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #1 posted 06/21/04 8:24pm

kdj997

Mazerati said:

after going to http://www.clearchanneladds.com and noticing that "Call My Name" didnt have a single add in the last month at a clear channel station i emailed them and asked them

"I have heard that Clear Channel stations refuse to play anything new by Prince from his Musicology album... is this true? it would be a shame because it is a great album and it has sold very well"

and the reply from clear channel was

"???

Never heard of any such edict. Totally up to local programming"



ha.. bullshit!



It's simple. Prince is anti Bush, he shall be silenced. Clear channel has been backing bush since his first run for governor in 94. I'm sure "little bidies" from the Bush administration is whispering in their ear directing them to silence certain artist and even radio talk show hosts, lol
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Reply #2 posted 06/21/04 8:33pm

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Is this thread and the first reply both jokes?
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Reply #3 posted 06/21/04 8:53pm

PurpleCharm

At the show tonight in Detroit, Prince brought up the point about Clear Channel. He said something to the effect of 'They play the same songs over and over and over' as he twirled his finger around in the air. He mentioned Clear Channnel by name, saying they won't play his music and the crowd starting booing.
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Reply #4 posted 06/21/04 9:13pm

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Remeber i had started a partition drive agianst clear channel and even notified FCC but no one backed me from the org

Not one person wanted to start calling the FCC and buggin them
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Reply #5 posted 06/21/04 9:14pm

kdj997

PurpleCharm said:

At the show tonight in Detroit, Prince brought up the point about Clear Channel. He said something to the effect of 'They play the same songs over and over and over' as he twirled his finger around in the air. He mentioned Clear Channnel by name, saying they won't play his music and the crowd starting booing.


First of all this issn't a joke and PRince knows he's being silenced by clear channel. In the Dallas morning news Sunday edition they ran an interview they did before his concert last Friday and he basically said It's not profitable to have an opinion in music these days when asked about the Dixie Chicks problems with clear channel. Off subject slightly, I feel that if you're voting for Bush you're retarded. Thats a good test to see if your buddies are stupid, just ask who they're voting for. I say that cause it;'s no positives what so ever to vote for him.
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Reply #6 posted 06/21/04 9:15pm

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Not only are Clear Channel stations not playing his singles, but here in his home town, he's getting zero airplay. Even the one urban station we have won't play him. Prince also talked about Clear Channel here in his Minneapolis shows. On one hand, you have to say that it's a sad day in the music industry when Prince can't even get air-play in his home town, but you also have to wonder what strings is Sony NOT pulling.

I've sent emails to the radio stations here who should be playing him. We'll see what, if anything, they have to say.
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Reply #7 posted 06/21/04 9:32pm

PurpleCharm

I heard "Call My Name" on one of the hip-hop oriented stations in Detroit(105.9). I was really shocked. I also heard it a few times on the urban contemporary station(92.3). I don't know if they are owned by Clear Channel or not.
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Reply #8 posted 06/21/04 10:39pm

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I just finished e-mailing a few of the radio stations here in San Diego, where I still haven't heard Call My Name, (yet the Top 40 station is doing a contest to give away tickets to his show here in September) and I after I sent them, I realized that a couple of the stations I e-mailed were going to the same person from Clear Channel and I kinda got freaked. But one of those stations (the hip-hop one) played "Musicology" a couple of months ago so anything is possible.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #9 posted 06/22/04 12:37am

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kdj997 said:

Mazerati said:

after going to http://www.clearchanneladds.com and noticing that "Call My Name" didnt have a single add in the last month at a clear channel station i emailed them and asked them

"I have heard that Clear Channel stations refuse to play anything new by Prince from his Musicology album... is this true? it would be a shame because it is a great album and it has sold very well"

and the reply from clear channel was

"???

Never heard of any such edict. Totally up to local programming"



ha.. bullshit!



It's simple. Prince is anti Bush, he shall be silenced. Clear channel has been backing bush since his first run for governor in 94. I'm sure "little bidies" from the Bush administration is whispering in their ear directing them to silence certain artist and even radio talk show hosts, lol



Clear Channel is literally co-ruining the intellectual world. Sounds major but true. Ask the Dixie Chicks, or even better HOWARD STERN what happens if u talk about Bush. If u don't play the game and kiss ass-you're out. I won't listen to CC stations or support concerts by CCE (thats hard 2). I applauded Prince on taking any stand against CC. Thats the guy I love & admire. He does represent all artists. (although rich eccentric ones) but all artists.

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Reply #10 posted 06/22/04 5:28am

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Both "Call My Name" and "Musicology" are gettin some play on the Adult R&B station in Indy (106.7). I have the station on at work and hear each 2-3 times a day. I never heard Call My Name until I called and requested it though. When I called the DJ said "Great! Now we can get it on the air." Start callin! (Station owned by RadioOne btw.)
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Reply #11 posted 06/22/04 6:28am

Shorty

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neronava said:

kdj997 said:




It's simple. Prince is anti Bush, he shall be silenced. Clear channel has been backing bush since his first run for governor in 94. I'm sure "little bidies" from the Bush administration is whispering in their ear directing them to silence certain artist and even radio talk show hosts, lol



Clear Channel is literally co-ruining the intellectual world. Sounds major but true. Ask the Dixie Chicks, or even better HOWARD STERN what happens if u talk about Bush. If u don't play the game and kiss ass-you're out. I won't listen to CC stations or support concerts by CCE (thats hard 2). I applauded Prince on taking any stand against CC. Thats the guy I love & admire. He does represent all artists. (although rich eccentric ones) but all artists.

Nero



Amen! Prince get's next to NO airplay in Boston and it's just sickening!!! I called the local hip hop station yesterday to request Call My Name and the DJ was so freakin' stupid...telling me how prince used to be cool in the 80's but he and his audience don't like the "new" prince!! I called him SAD and he said "I know" ..what an idiot. I eventually got him to say he'd pass the word along but....I'm not holding my breath!!
I think Prince should go on Howard Stern...talk about the FCC and Clear channel and then do an accoustic set....I think it would be GREAT!!!
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #12 posted 06/22/04 6:44am

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In Minneapolis he said "Here's something from the new album. But you won't hear it on the radio. Not here. It's all about Clear Channel. Get it? Clear the channel... of the funk." And then he played Call My Name.

Wasn't there something about how they were pissed that they did not get to promote the tour? I'm not sure if that part is correct or not.
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Reply #13 posted 06/22/04 7:16am

jayARDAHB

Well folks... here's something really interesting...

Clear Channel and all of radio would be forced to bump Call My Name if the public wanted to hear it... I'm talking about regular everyday listeners of music...

That ain't happening for a very important reason: Call My Name isn't a hit... it's not so great a tune... it's another run of the mill ballad by Prince... it's really lame.

If Prince released a well written catchy pop tune, it would be played... Prince is under some seriously false impressions... people ain't feeling that tune...
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Reply #14 posted 06/22/04 7:21am

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jayARDAHB said:


If Prince released a well written catchy pop tune, it would be played... Prince is under some seriously false impressions... people ain't feeling that tune...


People have to hear it before they can feel it.
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Reply #15 posted 06/22/04 7:38am

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jayARDAHB said:

If Prince released a well written catchy pop tune, it would be played...

holy flaming hohners, is this what folks are reduced to? songs must be catchy, popsy throwaways in order for people to pay it any heed? god, no wonder radio bites rancid ones nowadays. neutral
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Reply #16 posted 06/22/04 7:45am

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jayARDAHB said:

Well folks... here's something really interesting...

Clear Channel and all of radio would be forced to bump Call My Name if the public wanted to hear it... I'm talking about regular everyday listeners of music...

That ain't happening for a very important reason: Call My Name isn't a hit... it's not so great a tune... it's another run of the mill ballad by Prince... it's really lame.

If Prince released a well written catchy pop tune, it would be played... Prince is under some seriously false impressions... people ain't feeling that tune...

Well first off how the hell can anyone make a request for a song when they don't even know that the song is out? It's because everything in radio is about big business not about the listening public and as a result, we're the ones getting burned by this. Plus, EVERYONE around me who's heard Call My Name likes the songs and some aren't even fans so it's silly for you to generlize your statement when I know that isn't the case in these parts of the world.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #17 posted 06/22/04 8:20am

DarlinLaurie

jayARDAHB said:

Well folks... here's something really interesting...

Clear Channel and all of radio would be forced to bump Call My Name if the public wanted to hear it... I'm talking about regular everyday listeners of music...

That ain't happening for a very important reason: Call My Name isn't a hit... it's not so great a tune... it's another run of the mill ballad by Prince... it's really lame.

If Prince released a well written catchy pop tune, it would be played... Prince is under some seriously false impressions... people ain't feeling that tune...


eek Dude you must be deaf!! Call my name is definitely a HUGE hit for anyone who has taste enough to actually listen to the song. Let's face it RADIO SUCKS!! The best radio station we had in Minnesota was REV105 and what happened to that station?? The large evil corporations were threatened by the new music and bought the station out. Now the station is just another "Stepford Station." YAWN!!

But the radio stations sure were outside the Prince concerts trying to promote their station even though they don't play any Prince. Hippocrates.
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Reply #18 posted 06/22/04 8:48am

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wdrew said:

Not only are Clear Channel stations not playing his singles, but here in his home town, he's getting zero airplay. Even the one urban station we have won't play him. Prince also talked about Clear Channel here in his Minneapolis shows. On one hand, you have to say that it's a sad day in the music industry when Prince can't even get air-play in his home town, but you also have to wonder what strings is Sony NOT pulling.

I've sent emails to the radio stations here who should be playing him. We'll see what, if anything, they have to say.
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I KNOW u aint talking about KMOJ because..huh..KMOJ LOVES Prince. Dont get started on that or maybe u just aint listening. I said fuck B96 and KDWB and that bullshit!
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Reply #19 posted 06/22/04 10:49am

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paisleypark4 said:

I KNOW u aint talking about KMOJ because..huh..KMOJ LOVES Prince. Dont get started on that or maybe u just aint listening. I said fuck B96 and KDWB and that bullshit!


The only place I listen to the radio is at work, and unfortunatly KMOJ doesn't come in there. And I work in Roseville, so it's not like I'm out in the boonies.
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Reply #20 posted 06/22/04 11:07am

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paisleypark4 said:

I KNOW u aint talking about KMOJ because..huh..KMOJ LOVES Prince. Dont get started on that or maybe u just aint listening. I said fuck B96 and KDWB and that bullshit!

co-sign on this one...kmoj does give p a lotta airplay and they mention 'im quite a bit. nod
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Reply #21 posted 06/22/04 11:24am

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jayARDAHB said:

Well folks... here's something really interesting...

Clear Channel and all of radio would be forced to bump Call My Name if the public wanted to hear it... I'm talking about regular everyday listeners of music...

That ain't happening for a very important reason: Call My Name isn't a hit... it's not so great a tune... it's another run of the mill ballad by Prince... it's really lame.

If Prince released a well written catchy pop tune, it would be played... Prince is under some seriously false impressions... people ain't feeling that tune...


pff! if only it were THAT simple!
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #22 posted 06/22/04 12:45pm

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Mazerati saidand the reply from clear channel was
"???
Never heard of any such edict. Totally up to local programming"

ha.. bullshit![/quote]


CLEAR CHANNEL BOTH SUCKS AND BLOWS!!!!!
VOTE....EARLY
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Reply #23 posted 06/22/04 1:18pm

asg

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There are six FCC rules on media ownership!!
what i found out is none covers promoting concerts and owning radio stations
That is why u cant see any P on clear channel

NEED TO START PETITION DRIVE TO GET CLEAR CHANNEL FINED

The six rules in question and the years of their original adoption are:
• Newspaper/Broadcast Cross-Ownership Prohibition (1975)
The newspaper/broadcast cross-ownership rule prohibits common ownership of a
full-service broadcast station and a daily newspaper when the broadcast station’s
service contour encompasses the newspaper’s city of publication.
• Local Radio Ownership Rule (1941)
Initially, the Commission’s rules prohibited common ownership of same service
radio stations (AM or FM) that served substantially the same area. Currently, the
FCC’s local radio ownership rule provides the following limitations: (1) in a radio
market with 45 or more commercial radio stations, a party may own operate, or
control up to 8 commercial radio stations, not more than 5 of which are in the same
service (AM or FM); (2) in a radio market with between 30 and 44 commercial radio
stations, a party may own, operate, or control up to 7 commercial radio stations, not
more than 4 of which are in the same service (AM or FM); (3) in a radio market with
between 15 and 29 commercial radio stations, a party may own, operate, or control
up to 6 commercial radio stations, not more than 4 of which are in the same service
(AM or FM); and (4) in a radio market with 14 or fewer commercial radio stations, a
party may own, operate, or control up to 5 commercial radio stations, not more than
3 of which are in the same service (AM or FM), except that a party may not own,
operate, or control more than 50 percent of the stations in that market.
• National TV Ownership Rule (1941)
When the FCC first adopted national ownership restrictions for television broadcast
stations in 1941, it put numerical limits on the number of stations that could be
commonly-owned. The rule has been amended a number of times thereafter to
increase the level of common ownership permitted under this rule. Currently, the
national TV ownership rule prohibits an entity from owning television stations that
would reach more than 35% of U.S. television households. “Reach” is defined as
the number of television households in the TV Designated Market Area (DMA) to
which each owned station is assigned. VHF stations are attributable with all TV
households in the DMA; UHF stations are attributable with 50% of the DMA
households.The FCC’s decision in 2000 to retain a national television ownership limit was
challenged by Fox Television Stations in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C.
Circuit. In February 2002, the Court reversed the FCC’s action and sent the rule
back to the FCC for further consideration.
• Local TV Multiple Ownership Rule (1964)
The local TV ownership rule allows an entity to own two television stations in the
same DMA provided: (1) at least one of the stations is not ranked among the four
highest-ranked stations in the DMA; and (2) at least eight independently-owned
commercial or non-commercial broadcast television stations would remain in the
DMA after the proposed combination. Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc. challenged
the Commission’s local TV ownership rule in court. In 2002, the U.S. Court of
Appeals for the D.C. Circuit remanded the rule to the FCC for further consideration.
• Radio/TV Cross-Ownership Restriction (1970)
The original radio/TV cross-ownership rule prohibited common ownership of a radio
and TV station in the same market. The rule currently limits the number of radio
and television stations one entity may own in a market. The rule allows common
ownership of at least one television and one radio station in a market. In larger
markets, a single entity may own additional radio stations depending on the number
of other independently owned media outlets in the market.
• Dual Television Network Rule (1946)
The dual network rule originally prohibited any entity from maintaining more than a
single radio network. A few years later, the rule was extended to television
networks. Today, the dual network rule prohibits a merger between or among
these four television networks: ABC, CBS, Fox, and NBC.
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Reply #24 posted 06/22/04 10:12pm

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Oh don't get me started on Clear Channel! If you have ever noticed my signature..."May u live 2 see the death of hip hop" it just refuses to die!

Every form of music lives a short span and either moves on or goes underground. Look at disco, new wave, and house music. All these music forms reached a peak of about five years and moved on. Not hip hop though, it dominated the entire decade of the 1990s and is about to begin a fifth year in the new millineum.

Hip hop is a cheap form of "music", if you want to call it that. It is cheap to make, can be made very quickly, and the so called artists that make it can very easily be manipulated out of their profits. Look at MTV's "Cribs" for example, a lot of these major hip hop artists live in a nice two story house in the suburbs that a doctor or lawyer might live in. They have next door nieghbors that are close enough to be disturbed by their music and parties. They even have a carport. What the hell kind of STAR would have a normal driveway and garage. Do you think you can just pull up in Prince, Madonna, or Michael Jackson's driveway? Do you think they live close enough for the other neighbors to look over the fence at their pool parties? Hell no! Hip hop artists dress like kids, they wear football jerseys and jeans. They buy fancy cars and put video games in the cars like kids would do. They have the mind and mentality of a juvinelle delinquint. Of course they don't have the brains to get their fair share of the profits.

With a cheap form of music and ignorant artists that are making it, record companies are making hand over foot! Companies like Clear Channel can also manipulate the air waves and make sure that is all that is played so it never goes out of style and they all continue to make boatloads of money. Meanwhile the artists making the music are out driving around in a souped up Lexus playing a damned Play Station in the back!
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Reply #25 posted 06/22/04 11:02pm

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Its true about hiphop stars . Most of them r low lifes. used to sell drugs and shit.
Like prince said back in the days if u put in a new album u would get a car or some thing like that.

They have no control over thier money! they will be poor agian.
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Reply #26 posted 06/23/04 12:44am

PurpleCharm

vainandy said:

Oh don't get me started on Clear Channel! If you have ever noticed my signature..."May u live 2 see the death of hip hop" it just refuses to die!

Every form of music lives a short span and either moves on or goes underground. Look at disco, new wave, and house music. All these music forms reached a peak of about five years and moved on. Not hip hop though, it dominated the entire decade of the 1990s and is about to begin a fifth year in the new millineum.

Hip hop is a cheap form of "music", if you want to call it that. It is cheap to make, can be made very quickly, and the so called artists that make it can very easily be manipulated out of their profits. Look at MTV's "Cribs" for example, a lot of these major hip hop artists live in a nice two story house in the suburbs that a doctor or lawyer might live in. They have next door nieghbors that are close enough to be disturbed by their music and parties. They even have a carport. What the hell kind of STAR would have a normal driveway and garage. Do you think you can just pull up in Prince, Madonna, or Michael Jackson's driveway? Do you think they live close enough for the other neighbors to look over the fence at their pool parties? Hell no! Hip hop artists dress like kids, they wear football jerseys and jeans. They buy fancy cars and put video games in the cars like kids would do. They have the mind and mentality of a juvinelle delinquint. Of course they don't have the brains to get their fair share of the profits.

With a cheap form of music and ignorant artists that are making it, record companies are making hand over foot! Companies like Clear Channel can also manipulate the air waves and make sure that is all that is played so it never goes out of style and they all continue to make boatloads of money. Meanwhile the artists making the music are out driving around in a souped up Lexus playing a damned Play Station in the back!


ITA. Rap/Hip-Hop used to be a form of music I liked and appreciated, now I can't stand it. It's really sad how the industry has manipulated and pimped the art form for profit.
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Reply #27 posted 06/23/04 6:14am

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Anyone who disagrees with the Bush administration and his lies is immediately censored or destroyed!!! But Clear Channel is NOT the only problem:

Prince is NOT played here in D.C. at all. AND THIS IS D.C., folks!!! Prince has always had a HUGE following in D.C. and Atlanta, but most radio stations refuse to play him. However, I gotta give the adult contemporary R&B radio it's props!!!!! Particularly Tom Joyner (102.3) and Donnie Simpson (95.5) and 96.3. I've only heard "Call My Name" on these three radio stations, one of which is an urban hip-hop station (95.5). But Donnie Simpson, a self-professed Prince fanatic is the only D.J. from an urban radio station who is brave enough to play Prince, and he was the only one who played "Musicology," particularly in the mornings when most people tune in. I HATE Russ Parr (93.9). When Prince is in town and comes on that station, everyone's like "Hail, Prince!" worship Then, by the time he leaves, it's like nana , we're not going to play your music, Prince. Then, they have the NERVE to promote his concert on the radio stations, but they won't play him. It's one of the most ghetto-ist radio stations in the country! I'm like finger radio stations!

It's just so sad. While "Musicology" is not the best album, it STILL IS a good album compared to the shit that's on the radio now.

Just think: the "Musicology" video was in very heavy rotation on MTV, BET and VH-1. Just think how well it could have done if radio stations play it. That's what I've been trying to tell those people who continue to assert that Prince has lost his magic and artists like Usher are his "replacement." I get tired of people comparing Usher to Prince and saying how Usher is out-selling Prince! Well, Usher is out-selling EVERYONE! Not just Prince. And I truly believe that Prince STILL comes out the winner. Here's a guy whom no radio stations will play his music, yet he's still selling, still has the #1 tour in America. Still is on top! So you mean to tell me that lack of radio play and sells means that Usher is MORE talented than Prince. Please.....
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Reply #28 posted 06/26/04 7:36am

jayARDAHB

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So you mean to tell me that lack of radio play and sells means that Usher is MORE talented than Prince. Please.....


I'm not sure who told u that but u need to relax before you pop a brain vessel.

I read somewhere that if u are anti-Bush, Clear Channel is not going to play your music... well, that's not completely true: the Dilated Peoples have a new single out that calls out Bush and it gets played.

I know people who like Call My Name but I don't think the kids (the people who request songs at radio) are digging it in anyway.

As for the comments on all rappers being low-lifes (drug dealers, etc). Class conditions and everyday realities are completely entrenched in the politics of race in the United States of America... so, what I mean to say is this: you should shut up if your opinion is going to be as ignorant as it appears to be.
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Reply #29 posted 06/26/04 10:48am

laylow03

jayARDAHB said:

laylow03 said:

So you mean to tell me that lack of radio play and sells means that Usher is MORE talented than Prince. Please.....


I'm not sure who told u that but u need to relax before you pop a brain vessel.

I read somewhere that if u are anti-Bush, Clear Channel is not going to play your music... well, that's not completely true: the Dilated Peoples have a new single out that calls out Bush and it gets played.

I know people who like Call My Name but I don't think the kids (the people who request songs at radio) are digging it in anyway.

As for the comments on all rappers being low-lifes (drug dealers, etc). Class conditions and everyday realities are completely entrenched in the politics of race in the United States of America... so, what I mean to say is this: you should shut up if your opinion is going to be as ignorant as it appears to be.


I think you need to fuck off and learn how to read because I said nothing about ALL rappers being low-lifes. And trust me, I don't take Prince seriously, I was just making a point...o.k. venting if you like. As a black woman who happens to like hip-hop, I don't know what you're talking about but I think it is YOU who needs to take a chill pill, dude!
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