Dippydippydope said:

Dippy,
Don't be such a jerk. Just because someone has music doesn't mean that everyone gets it. Look at it this way... what give you the RIGHT to think it is yours? You seem to be real generous with other people's stuff. If Jestyr had it (and he says he doesn't now, why don't you trust him) it is HIS business if he lets it out. Maybe he doesn't have permission to give it out, or maybe it is a privacy thing. Basically, it is not your choice DIPPY, what other people do with THEIR possessions. I think it sounds like Jestyr was fortunate enough to at least hear this stuff which is so much better than most of us. I don't think he is bad for not playing for us even if he DID or DOES actually have it. The bottom line is that it is HIS to do with what he wants and you sound like an idiot when you go demanding others obey YOUR wishes about THEIR belongings.

I was joking when I told him in the earlier email that he should let us all hear it. I guess you didn't get the joke that I was acting like a spoiled 10 year old girl when I demanded that he give me a copy! Grow up. Jestyr doesn't owe you anything. Even if he did have it, I doubt he'd ruin his connection to give it to you, especially now that you are acting like an idiot.

there is a reason your screenname is DippydippyDOPE.

Tony Williams here - i am Jestyr`s bodyguard.

What was your question?

Lighten up everyone. I was just saying that if Jestyr should have those songs he is bragging about he should give them out to all of us. It really is bigger than just him. He is talking about songs that all of us want and it would be cool if hed let us hear them too. Just because hes got sweet connections doesnt mean that he shouldnt share with all of us. Get in touch with your connection and lie to them to get the songs and let us all hear them. Anyone who hogs these songs and doesnt give us a copy is a jerk. I mean we are all in this together right? I cant think of one good reason why someone wouldnt just give us all copies of these songs.

I dont think I am being selfish. I am just being real. If I had friends who were cool enough to give me songs Id let everyeone have a copy. If they were cool enough to let me hear it and not have a copy Id do everything I could to get a copy so I could get it out to everyone. That is the kind of guy I am and tghat is why it isnt selfish for me to want these songs. Wanting them isnt selfish it is selfish to the extreme to not give them to me because I would get them out to everyone and then wed all be happy.

Dippydippydope said:

Maybe he can sing the songs for you. Since he only heard them, he might be able to at least sing them for you.
I bet he would share them - if he had a copy. So would you - or me.
I decided i better forget about the stuff that isn`t circulating.
That way i`ll be even happier if i do get to hear those songs one day.
Does that make sense to you?

TonyWilliams said:

Maybe I dont want to have them sung to me I want to have them, hold them and listen to them whenever I want just lke Jestyr said. it sounds like Jesty is alot like you and me Tony. I bet if he had them hed get them out to us (i think he should lie cheat or steal to get them from his connection). I beg him to get them again. He said that he had a CDR withthe songs on it so why not get them again and crab a copy? Id do it and get them out to everyone. These songs should be out there and not held back. Anyone who things otherwise is an selfish idiot. If i had a conncetion like that Id do anything nececary to get a copy even if I had to steal complain whine lie trick or do whatever I had to do. I bet Jestry wants to do the same thing. Get to it Jestyr. Get those songs and get us all a copy. It is your duty as a fan to have them. I told a guy one time that he was a dick because he wouldnt trade with me when i was just statring out. I stillthink hes a dickhead because of that. yes I would have gotten the songs out to everyone but that doesnt mean he wasnt a dick. Talk about selfish. He had no idea what id do with them andhe kept saying that we were friends but he didnt know what Id do with them and i kept telling him that he should trust me (evne though he shouldnt). I even gave him my word that i wouldnt trade them. The dickhead wouldnt even trust me for that. whatever dude. he ended up on my shit list and now I am rockin on the org and he is no where to be found.

bottom line is that music should be free. Get that music out there. Jetsyr use your connections (you even write for UPTONW) and get those songs for all of us.

I saw your article about the Family Jamm show and it rocked.

Dippy-

Get off of Jestyr's back. He said he doesn't have them and even if he did, I don't think he'd be passing them out to everyone (especially someone like you DOPE). It would be his call to distribute them. My guess is that he doesn't want to screw up a great connection so he is either expecting them in the future or hoping that it works out that he gets them from them. I had a connection like that once, but she and I started dating and I got over eager about all of the music and she backed away. She said that I was too obsessed with getting it and that made her really uncomfortable. She had been screwed over by someone who got a few songs and mailed them to everyone she knew and so she was very cautious. So, my advice to anyone who does get these is to slow down and don't seem too eager. Looking back, I was just happy that she played me stuff, but DAMN I really wanted to get copies of them. I don't remember specifics, but it was an early copy of one of his albums that I hadn't heard. It is cool to hear them, but I wish I had played my hand differently.

Jestyr, if you are lucky enough to hear some of these songs, don't do what i did! hahaha. And don't listen to DippyDippydope. He sounds like an idiot.

Dippy, keep your big trap shut. Let Jestyr do what he wants to with the tracks that he "says" he doesn't have! hahaha (just giving you some crap J)

LOL. You guys are so sweet.

'dope you need to present those arguments to the right person (madhouseman). We should all be listening to these tracks by now. I'm right there with you.

Just to clarify, once again, I never 'had' the CDR - it was played for me, I do NOT write for UPTOWN and my review did not appear.

Take care guys!
Jestyr

Jestyr said:

YOU HEAR THAT BSUNSHINE???? Take that you idiot lezbo. Straight from the source. You are wrong and Jesty and I are right. We should have those tracks right now and now that he knows this he is going to do everything he can to lie, cheat or steal them from his connection. I wouldnt dobt it if he didnt give you a copy for being such a stupid beyotch. The rest of us will be rocking to the tunes as son as Jextyr gets them. TO YOU MY FREIND I RAISE A TOAST. It is so nice to see someone who I can totally agree with.

Way to go Jestyr. Set that stupid bitch straight... at least one part of her will be straight finally. Get it?

Listen to the MAN. Music should be free. If he had it Jexstyr would totally spread the wealth to everyone the way it should be done. I garentee that when he does trick his friend well all get copies. EXCEPT YOU YOU FREAK SHOW MANHATER!

J tell me what to do so we can get this shit out there and in our hands. Every day I dont have it is a day without sunshine! hahaha. Get it? No SUNSHINE. Put me on that list and J will lead the way to all of us having total access to the tunes!

Thanks for having my back J. YOU ROCK

Ohh savages!!
The real freaks come out at night
Killer fams, hungry for rareities
"Growl!! Gimmee that B-side Argh!!"

thekidsgirl said:

Then you can count yourself out. The line for those who are getting a copy when Jexstyr gets all those songs starts here. Those who dont want a copy can go somewhere else.

Jesty is the MAN! A fan who understnads how important it is to share with all the rest of us.

Tell me what I can do to help you snag these songs and i will do it. Dont let some selfish dickhead keep those out of our hands. We deserve them and will get them by whatver meens necessary.

aint no holding us back now! lol.

Jexty you tell us what you need all of us to do so you can steal them (or trick your connection into lending thme to you! lol) and you can consider it done.

Dippydippydope said:

Aside from your ridiculous and offfensive rant about 'sunshine, you missed my point entirely. You need to present your agruments to the person who HAS these tracks (madhouseman). I can do nothing. Actually, I was the one who was tricked.

Jesxtyr just tell us what to do. Ive already told a bunch of people to esxpect the songs you mentioned in the near future. Drop me an orgnote if you are uncomfortable talking about it right here but I cant wait to hear these tracks.

Tell me what you want me to do to madehouseman to get him to slide them your way so you can slide them mine.

and i agree withyou about bsunshine. what she is saying is offinseive to alot of people. thank you acknowledging that. what good is a girl who doesnt give in on anything anyway. You have my word she wont get anything that you send to me. she thinks shes so hat but you and i will be laughing when we are cranking the tunes and shouting the names.

j YOU DA MAN

I don't need this. This started out as a simple question and now you are ganging up on me. Personally, I don't care if I hear the song if this is what it does to you. You both sound like you are nuts.

Enjoy the songs and when you do finally get them, do not send them to me. Not if it is going to make you behave like this. What sort of person would lie or steal to get songs? Not the type I associate with.

Jestyr said:

OK, now that I reread your comment I understnad more. The only thing I got RIGHT was the rant about bsunhine the rest of my email was not your point. Well at least we can agree on bitches like that! hahaha. I see you wrote that madehouseman tricked you. is it how? Did he take something of yours? what did he take? That CDR you were referring to? He sounds ilke a superdickhead. Did he take something of yours b4 you could pass it out to everyone? If that is the case he sucks. tell us what to do (this link has over a tousand hits) and well do it. I say bombard this fucker with orgnotes until he gives back what is yours. NOONE should keep you from getting Prince songs out to everyone. There isnt a reason to do that. If he stoled a copy for himself that is one thing (hell you were going to do it to him( but to take your stuff totally and not leave it for you. He has to understnad that you want to get this out to EVERYONE not just him. Well everyone ecxept bsunshine (more like lezbsunshine! hahaha-get it?).

I call on everyone who agrees with jexstyr and me to do something. Jes wants to spread a bunch of Prince songs to everyone and there is someone who stole his CDR and wont give it back. that is just wrong.

J dawg
I tried sending you and orgnote but it didnt go through. How long do you think it wil take you to get these songs and what can i do to help. You have no idea how ready to hear these song s I am. You are super lucky to have had them and the fact that your connection became such a dick when he stole your CDR. What a dick. Did you lend it to him or hwat? Ive already told a few people to epxect a copy of some of those songs and I hvae a few great trades set up already so once you get them going I can start spreading the love and ill get you copies of everything that I get for these trades. I garentee that within 3 weeks of you getting these songs almost everyone on the org will have copies (expecpt lezbsunshine and that cocksucking connection who stole it from you).

im all about getting these out to everyone so if you have a plan (or anyhone else on the org) of how to get these songs (and you all know you agree with me and Jextyr on this-dont go denying it) drop me a line on da org!

This is going to rock.

Dippydippydope said:

Dude, what the fuck is your problem? Shitty dicks like you will never and I mean NEVER get the stuff that some people have, you act like a fuckass and as if you are entitled to those tracks. And the main reason most if these things aren't put out is because of bootleggers, now go complain to them...

Neversin.

Bsunshine said:

'sunshine; I hope you just misread something because my post was in defense of you. I also hope you are just playing along, because this guy's 'manipulations' are so transparent a child couldn't miss them. He 'assumes' relationships that don't exist, I know you can see that. I have no connection to madhouseman anymore and couldn't get a copy of this CDR if my life depended on it.

My suspicion is that this guy IS madhouseman and he's continuing to fuck with me as he has in the past. Yawn.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 12 10:52:20 2004 by Jestyr]

Jestyr said:

whatever. I originally posted my question to find out about a song. Now I have a number of people sending me org notes and these posts from you and your friends treating me like crap. Do whatever you want with the songs, I really don't care. Just do me a favor and leave me alone.

All I know is that I didn't ask for this and I don't know who you and your friends are, but I can tell you that it isn't appreciated. Please stop this and call off your friends.

Bsunshine said:

Now that's really weird. This guy, 'dope, is not and has never been my friend. Where did you get the impression I even knew who he was? I assumed you and he had some sort of previous beef and that's why he was harshing you so badly. No posts from me treat you like crap, 'sunshine. I'd appreciate a retraction on that...

Jestyr said:

Dude, whatever. I've reread the emails above and really just don't have the time for this. Have a great life and just don't either of you bother me again. Regardless of whether you are friends, it seems like I am the butt of some jokes and this has gotten out of control. I'm sure you are a good kid who got caught up in the excitement of telling people about songs they don't have. There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, it was pretty exciting that you knew about the song and held it in front of our faces by even knowing the lyrics and the way it sounds. I don't hold that against you. If you've got it and don't want to trade it, it is your beef. If you don't have it and just wanted to wag it in front of us that you've heard it, that is fine too. If you have a connection who took it from you, then that beef is with him/her and if you have a connection that won't give it to you, I'm sure there are reasons (maybe they were afraid of it getting in the hands of haters like dippydope). Regardless, you seemed to take your sweet time when it came to defending me.

Do what you want with the song when you get it (or get it back, whichever it is), but there isn't a song out there worth sacrificing my good name or my self esteem. Keep your song, or give it to your friend, but leave me out of this conversation.

Thank you

Neversin said:

Dude, you are jumping in the middle of a conversation about some songs that you dont know and dont have so maybe you should step back.

bsunshine I didnt mean anything by the comments. I was just haveing some fun. From now on Ill keep comments like that in any orgnotes to my frineds. I got carried away in talking to Jestry so Im sorry if our conversation sounded bad. it was all in fun.

Dippydippydope said:

Think again dumbass...

Neversin.

Bsunshine said:

Just to clarify; you asked some questions and I answered them. I never 'wagged' anything because I don't have anything to wag. I was sharing information - not bragging. I don't know...there must be some kind of language barrier here because I've never insulted you once. I was trying to provide information that I happened to have. This guy's antics obviously upset you over orgnotes I know nothing about. Saying I took my time to defend you is just pathetic. Why am I cast in that role? I'm not on the org to defend you, you're a big girl. Oh, and I'm not a kid;, I'm 40 fucking years old. Too old for this.

Have yourself a nice life. Dude whatever.


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[This message was edited Fri Aug 13 10:18:43 2004 by Jestyr]

Jestyr said:

so you understand why some of us feel like this, when asked if you knew people who had these songs, you casually said 'yep' and when I (jokingly) said you should get us all copies, you replied, "I only wish that I could. Some people are just awful," which I took to mean that you thought some of us were just awful and wouldn't get copies of your songs. After that, everyone seemed to be making plans about how to get these songs that you and Susan Rogers had heard, but which only you had the connection to get.

Jestyr said:

sure you did baby. When you replied to Dippy, you said "Aside from your ridiculous and offfensive rant about 'sunshine, you missed my point entirely."

Read that sentence carefully baby. It says, "aside from (blank i.e. what you got correct), you missed my point entirely." How else is there to interpret that? Aside from your offensive rant about sunshine, you are wrong. That is like saying "aside from question 1, you got the rest of the test incorrect." I took huge insult in your pointing out to Dippy that the ONLY thing he got right, was to insult me. If this isn't what you meant, then I am sorry for misreading it, but you have to admit, your own words seem pretty mean. Obviously, from the posts and the emails I have received, I am not the only one that saw that cruelty in your grammar.

Jestyr said:

I don't know this. All I know is that you sounded like you were ganging up on me and apparently I wasn't the only one who felt like this. It seemed inspired by your friend and you didn't do anything to calm down the rheteric.

Jestyr said:

see above. I think I made that pretty clear.

Jestyr said:

Sorry, you sounded like you were much younger by the way you reacted to all of this. I have found that the fans that are gagga over getting Prince's music by any means necessary are usually a little younger (in your defense, I still think Dippy is about 19 or so,which is why I assumed you were in the same age range as him). Once people reach a certain level of maturity, they seem to cool off a little bit. I suppose I understand your passion for this as you indicated that one of your friends has tricked you regarding your music. I have written this person an orgnote to tell him that I don't think it is very nice to have tricked or taken our music. I have also decided not to respond to many of the orgnotes and emails that I've gotten about this. If you are sorry (even for a misunderstanding), then I accept your apology, if you are not, then there is little I can do. Regardless, I think I have explained myself enough to satisfy you and your friend's rude behaviour.

Other than that, both of you need to watch what you write as everyone can read and see that what I have said is true. Hope you and Dippy and the others who have written here, or orgnoted me or emailed me can understand where I am coming from. Dippy was far more rude that you were, but at the same time, it seemed that both of you were running for the same goal and not caring who got in the way.

I dont have the song and I want the song. Sorry if I was so burtal with you bsunshine but i calls em like i sees em.

Neversin this isnt yhour fight. step back.

jestyer
I did write to madhouseman. He got the orgnote but hasnt responded. probably a chickenshit.

Jestyr said:



Just to clarify; you asked some questions and I answered them. I never 'wagged' anything because I don't have anything to wag. I was sharing information - not bragging.


so you understand why some of us feel like this, when asked if you knew people who had these songs, you casually said 'yep' and when I (jokingly) said you should get us all copies, you replied, "I only wish that I could. Some people are just awful," which I took to mean that you thought some of us were just awful and wouldn't get copies of your songs. After that, everyone seemed to be making plans about how to get these songs that you and Susan Rogers had heard, but which only you had the connection to get.

Ah. Now I see where you misinterpreted me. When I said 'some people are just awful', I was talking about those who hoard the songs we all want to hear, not the people who want to hear them. Why would I call myself awful?


Jestyr said:


I don't know...there must be some kind of language barrier here because I've never insulted you once.



sure you did baby. When you replied to Dippy, you said "Aside from your ridiculous and offfensive rant about 'sunshine, you missed my point entirely."

Read that sentence carefully baby. It says, "aside from (blank i.e. what you got correct), you missed my point entirely." How else is there to interpret that? Aside from your offensive rant about sunshine, you are wrong. That is like saying "aside from question 1, you got the rest of the test incorrect." I took huge insult in your pointing out to Dippy that the ONLY thing he got right, was to insult me. If this isn't what you meant, then I am sorry for misreading it, but you have to admit, your own words seem pretty mean. Obviously, from the posts and the emails I have received, I am not the only one that saw that cruelty in your grammar.

Wow. Totally wrong. I guess I could have said, "putting your ridiculous rant about msunshine aside for now, you missed my point.", but logically, why would I say I AGREE with his RIDICULOUS and OFFENSIVE rant? That makes no logical sense. That's not what I meant and I AM sorry that you and apparently several other people thought that. It's absurd to me that you could misinterpret my distaste for his rants about you as support for them. They were clearly overboard and uncalled for. Obviously, there IS a language barrier here.


Jestyr said:


I was trying to provide information that I happened to have. This guy's antics obviously upset you over orgnotes I know nothing about.



I don't know this. All I know is that you sounded like you were ganging up on me and apparently I wasn't the only one who felt like this. It seemed inspired by your friend and you didn't do anything to calm down the rheteric.


Jestyr said:


Saying I took my time to defend you is just pathetic. Why am I cast in that role?



see above. I think I made that pretty clear.


Jestyr said:


I'm not on the org to defend you, you're a big girl. Oh, and I'm not a kid;, I'm 40 fucking years old. Too old for this.


Sorry, you sounded like you were much younger by the way you reacted to all of this. I have found that the fans that are gagga over getting Prince's music by any means necessary are usually a little younger (in your defense, I still think Dippy is about 19 or so,which is why I assumed you were in the same age range as him). Once people reach a certain level of maturity, they seem to cool off a little bit. I suppose I understand your passion for this as you indicated that one of your friends has tricked you regarding your music. I have written this person an orgnote to tell him that I don't think it is very nice to have tricked or taken our music. I have also decided not to respond to many of the orgnotes and emails that I've gotten about this. If you are sorry (even for a misunderstanding), then I accept your apology, if you are not, then there is little I can do. Regardless, I think I have explained myself enough to satisfy you and your friend's rude behaviour.

This guy came onto the thread with guns blazing, threatening ME and you think he is my friend? You must be out of your mind! YOU even somewhat came to my defense against him! I have never encountered this person in my life. EVER. I don't WANT to know him. He's clearly got some cells missing. I am sorry you misunderstood that, but you know what - no more apologies. I'm done with this bullshit. I've explained myself to high fucking heaven and I know it will still not be good enough.

Other than that, both of you need to watch what you write as everyone can read and see that what I have said is true. Hope you and Dippy and the others who have written here, or orgnoted me or emailed me can understand where I am coming from. Dippy was far more rude that you were, but at the same time, it seemed that both of you were running for the same goal and not caring who got in the way.

I will never forget this negativity and I will forever steer clear of your usernames.

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[This message was edited Sat Aug 14 17:03:46 2004 by Jestyr]

Dippydippydope said:

Sir,
i am sorry i have to tell you this, but obviously you haven`t noticed that you created a lot of disharmony within this threat. If someone says"...look i am sorry, but i don`t have it - i only heard it", how come you say " give me the song, give it to me, i want it, i need it". You act like a little child.

You said "He got the note but hasn`t responded" .
Now - you must be kidding me. You don`t really think he is going to answer any of your funny orgnotes, do you?

See - if someone has these songs, he/she is probably not even going to trade them. Because : what would you these trade for?

So you think orgnotes will get you the song?
Here`s one for you : think again.

I honestly think that in this case you act like a little child - i guess it`s okay to say that. I don`t know you, i do not disrespect you, i never said you`re a bad person, but in this case, you should take your time and think about....think...think....
You know what?
You were never supposed to hear them in the first place, so just forget about them and listen to the song "Arrogance". That might help.

All the best,
Tony

And Madhouseman hasnt written back to me YET. Guess he is being a pussy. Either that or he doesnt have the songs we think he has.