Haters...gimme a break leave Prince alone.
y don't u accept that he's on top of everything, he ain't a broke ass like all of ya...
he's very smart and want's 2 take advantage of this bussiness and don't letting the biz taking advantage of him...
peace and b wild!!!!!

Marrk said:

i think The Rainbow Children holds that record already

Avenger said:

exactly..how about when people bought Purple Rain on Vinyl when it came out then bought the album on cassette for their car and then wanted it on cd? so with lovemachines theory all that shouldnt count?

Win if you can

Lose if you must

but always cheat

and we don't give a sh*t what the f*ck you think

Again 4 the last damn time! It's obvious that in the beginning Soundscan(not Prince) said that it was cool 2 count the cd's. Then the outcry came from the Big PIMP(Gangsta) company's that actually have a chokehold on the industry from Radio to MTV/BET and made soundscan modify the Concert CD situation 4 the future. If it was wrong 2 begin with Soundscan would have never counted the CD's. The so called loophole is there 4 a reason. They just did'nt think that some1 would find the damn loophole. P did'nt create the loophole he just exposed it and used it 2 his advantage b4 they did and that's whats got they asses cryin! He was supposed 2b this eccentric weirdo with no brains. Now behold.....who's Pimpin who? It would have been just fine if it was 1 of the artist that they was Pimpin! Wake up and see whats really goin on! P has been tryin 2 tell y'all stupid MF's about this shzzzt ever since he put Slave on his face and changed his name 2 0(+>! The Exodus has Begun MF's he done told u that school's in so pay a damn attention!

ThePurpleHippie said:

U should say that again bcuz i don't think they heard ya!

OdysseyMiles said:

What's really great is the TOUR doing huge #'s while all the teeny pops cancel their tours!

speculator3m said:

That's y the hater labels are mad. They said that alot of acts would start trying 2 do the concert CD thing, but it's evident that they can't bcuz they are'nt schooled in performing 4 the long haul. They are video stars with no experience behind the fluff. THERE'S A FEW THAT COULD PULL IT OFF BUT NOT MANY! Maybe Outkast or Usher bcuz he's hot right now. See with most of these acts touring 2gether it would'nt b 2 their advantage 2 be giving away 3 or 4 different cd's at the concerts 2 fans. When thier labels already have them exposed 2 the Max on radio and video channels already and major record store chains bins stacked with product. They would loose $$$$. See Prince tours by himself and 4 himself. EX:Beyonce,Missy,Alicia K. all toured 2gether. If they tried P's method how much would the tix have 2 cost 4 every1 2 make money with all of the different labels hands in the cookie jar. It would'nt work bcuz there are 2many middle men. This is y the Labels are hating. P's tix were about the same or a few$$$$ more and P sold out more shows than this generations 3 hot grammy winners did.P has somewhat leveled the playing field 4 Talented veteran acts with the young video lipsynching acts. I would'nt mind seeing BOWIE and PRINCE and WONDER in the top 10 again.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 23 20:05:32 2004 by ELBOOGY]

Oh what a bore.

Let's not get too worked up about this. The charts mean NOTHING from a critical point of view. I think we'd all agree on that. They have more standing from a commercial point of view, but even so they're more just a part of the marketing of the album. I'd lump the charts in there with the promotion, the singles, the posters, the TV spots, interviews etc. and wouldn't even think about it in terms of popularity or success.

Since the whole thing is a scam, be it Prince's album or any of the other artists, the charts are just a promotional tool. Prince has used this tool very well. I believe his use of it will lead to more sales of his album. The whole thing with the fairness of it is ridiculous. Nobody said it is fair, and never was it. It's promotion.

I can't believe people would get so upset about this. It's really not that big a thing. If it really bothers u then u can at least comfort yourself with the thought that it'll probably never happen again.

I hope when the album goes Platinum that Prince plays that up on tour like he did with the Rolling Stone cover! Go on Prince!!!

I don't see why ANY fan would have a problem with the giveaways. It's a victory for PRINCE, he actually after ALL these years got one over on the industry, for that reason alone I'm happy for him and us.

Famboozled said:

Exactly.

purplecam said:

I couldn't agree more, Finally Prince is back "commercial" lets make the most of it!

psykosoul said:

So if Britney Spears or MJ or some other artist you don't consider to be the equal of Prince had done this instead of Prince you wouldn't be posting on a thread somewhere else that they weren't really sales? I know you would.

Mazerati said:

Completely different. How many people went to the simulcast and then had to buy the cd becasue the give-away wasn't really the cd?... and then Prince came through their town playing multiple (5 or 6 shows in some areas) where both they and their wife received free copies each time they attended meaning that they now owned 12-15 copies of the same cd in the same format. Get real if you think it's the same thing.

Someone may have already mentioned this. I didn't read all the posts, but if the retail sales were like around 20,000 and concert cds added another 60,000, forget the cd sales for a moment. Over 60,000 people witnessed Prince live last week, or the week before. To me, that's phenomenal.
We should be celebrating the fact that 2004 is the year Prince fans have been waiting for. A tour that's blowing everyone away, a great CD, entry into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, long overdue praise from just about everywhere, and most importantly, a musician who seems to be just hitting his stride at the tender young age of 46.
In a way, the concert cds are a slap in the face to the music industry and mainstream radio, cause hardly anyone thought he'd sell enough tickets on the tour to keep Musicology in the top 10 or 20 for this long.
So for those who want to continue to bitch and moan about how Prince is cheating and blah, blah, blah, knock yourselves out.
I've got some dancing to do.

shygirl said:

right on Shygirl! you know where its at! (nice dance btw)

God you guys argue over pointless shit.. what is this; a Prince Discussion Forum or sumthin'?

2freaky4church1 said:

Quite.

lovemachine said:

And all these people who have the 12-15 copies are really complaining very loudly about it, are they? NOT! (unless you know for sure that they are).

shygirl said:

But if it was Madonna or MJ who had pulled this stunt you'd be saying what a scam it is. But as it's precious little Prince then it's a work of genius.

Cloudbuster said:

let'em know ace!!

CokeJohnson said:

Famboozled said:

Exactly!

lovemachine said:

Really? So the disc you had wasn't the "real thing"? It didn't have the full album on it? Oh wait, you think it doesn't count if you didn't get all the pretty pictures.

2freaky4church1 said:

Oh please! He's found a way to market that goes against the norm. THis isn't cheating, its marketing.

Oh, and Billboard has stated that the first six weeks it was on the charts it still would have been in the top 20 consistently, even without the concert giveaway. Its first three weeks it would have still been in the top 10. Kinda negates your "fraudulent hit" argument.

Cloudbuster said:

Well, if it had been Madonna, I would have applauded her for YET ANOTHER brilliant marketing move. If it had been MJ, I would have assumed it was one of his managers who came up with it. The fact that its Prince is amazing, since its the smartest business decision he's made in about 15 years! I mean, this is the guy who has fairly consistently made bad moves with his business for a truly long time. Call it "cheating", call it a ruse, but the goal is to get the music into the hands of the audience, and he's succeeded.

Cloudbuster said:

Perhaps you're bothered by the fact that neither MJ or Madonna thought of this strategy? I for one, would have the same view I have now. Whether it was Prince or Britney, or Al B. Sure, a sale's a sale.

OdysseyMiles said:

Nope! I wouldn't care who the artist is. It's still cheating.

Cloudbuster said:

If it were cheating, I doubt if Soundscan would have accepted it. They could find no reason not to count the concert cds as sales. Sounds like you're stuck on tradition. Much like my friend here: