moonshine said:

Whoa there lad

you're mixing up WHY prince is counter-suing with his legal argument FOR the counter-action. Prince is arguing that the taking of the photo infringed copyright and trademark laws which we all know is complete bollocks. I have plenty of reasons to WANT to take legal actions against people but that doesn't mean I have a legal argument that stands up in court.

What you're saying is that becuase of what the kid has argues, Prince has a legal right to sue him for anything he pleases ??

By the way, Naomi Campbell's argument was completely different as she was arguing about privacy and the fact that she was leaving a clinic. Prince could hardly argue that being seen in an airport infringed his privacy as he didn't want the fact he uses airlines known publicly.

FF

moonshine said:

Do you realize that in the eyes of the law it is assault if his bodygaurded touched him or anything he was holding onto? So as soon as he grabbed the camera it was automatically assault. The kid has never claimed that he was beat up. You should go back and read the original inerviews with the kid and the attorney.

lovemachine said:

well said that man

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freakyfeet said:

whoa yourself lol, I'm not a horse ,guess i was mixing up the reasons why Prince is countersuing with the other thing you said .
Your 2nd statement is just putting words into my mouth though cos of my mix-up , I thought Prince was countersuing because he allegedly instruced the bodyguard to assault the guy ,I was wrong . No I dont think Prince can sue the guy for anything he pleases , but I never said that anyway .

As for the other comment about "Going back and reading the interviews with the lawyers" , sorry,I've much much better things to spend my time with , I've only got a passing interest in ths , but seeing as AGAIN its become a huuuuge thread thought I'd see what was happening,Prince does like to make some bad PR decisions doesnt he .

lovemachine said:

Do you realize that in the eyes of the law it is assault if his bodygaurded touched him or anything he was holding onto? So as soon as he grabbed the camera it was automatically assault. The kid has never claimed that he was beat up. You should go back and read the original inerviews with the kid and the attorney.[/quote]

Actually, it's battery. Battery is touching. Assault is apprehension.

But anyway, you guys do realize that if Prince is sued and papers are filed, he HAS to answer them or the other party automatically wins the case after a certain time. He can't just say "oh, my bad-let's see how this turns out." He either HAS to say-"I did all of it," or "I didn't do it for these reasons, and even if I did I had an excuse because....." The claims of copyright infringement, etc. are just counterclaims. I am sure that Prince is also raising some defenses such as saying that he instructed his body guard to refrain from "battering" people in the airport, and that by acting thusly, the bodyguard was NOT acting within the scope of his employment and Prince is not vicariously liable for the actions of the bodyguard. His lawyer is just trying to hit the kid with everything he's got to get this suit settled. That's what 99% of defendants, and ALL lawyers do.

Just playing it from the other side.

S

madartista said:

oh yeah....

Redayh said:

Yes, he has to respond. No, he doesn't have to countersue.

madartista said:

Yes, you are right, he could say, no I didn't do it and that's it, BUT I don't know one lawyer that wouldn't advise a counterclaim if one was at all possible. Not one. It's general practice to pile them on. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the kid's camera should never have been taken,, but once the bodyguard grabbed it you had a battery. Even if Prince had given it back right then, there would still be a battery, and I bet there would have still been a lawsuit. Rich and famous types always get sued and they sue back. It's just par for the course.

Ladies, just make sure you don't take Jay-z's picture without his permission

AsianBomb777 said:

None of us knows the whole story. There are always 3 sides to every sorry. In this case Prince side, the student and the truth. I think it is obvious that he is counter-suing to get this kid to drop the case. I don't think Prince is going to pay $50,000.00 for a digital camera.

laurarichardson said:

You're missing the point. Anyone. I mean ANYONE who pays for a picture like this doesn't have rights. That's all I'm saying. Forget about whether the kid is wrong for trying to take a picture of Prince, or whether Prince's bodygaurd was wrong---The picture here is the only real wrong committed. It's just so very very wrong.

what would jesus do

Universaluv said:

You know something, I REALLY like you!! While reading the responses to this thread that video definately came to mind. People better pay attention to this case, we all know how Prince LOVES to start trends.

AsianBomb777 said:

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I don't think Prince paid for this picture. I think WB paid for it (LOL)

Prince...what a dickhead. There's no joy in his music and he doesn't respect the fans. He reminds me of one of those people who never SHUTS UP and LISTENS to other people. Mostly because they are in love with the sound of their own voices. Maybe that's Prince in a nutshell. Just one of those excruciatingly boring, always-right types. It's dull, dull, dull. You can hear that on the collection of non-songs on Musicology. Here's a guy with a world-class drummer and yet he uses a PLAYED-THE-FUCK-OUT drum sampler. And now this "invasion of privacy" fucking nonsense. Oh people, just give up on him. Just stop giving him of yourselves.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I believe the correct spelling of that is "Appleonia."

FamousBluRaincoat said:

I thought it was Abalonnea

FamousBluRaincoat said:

Anxiety said:

YOU TOO!!!!!

Such an action would only create more bad publicity...he should letitgo.

Rudy said:

We ain't got to give up on shit and I don't think he's worried about shit you got to say because drum sampler or not, that's why he ranks at the top of the summer concerts and his tour his doing quite well. You can hate all you want.
You want to talk about boring, that's why Britney Spears won't be able to finish her tour. Why you talkin' about listening to other people I guess somebody used the figure of speech term "break a leg and she injured her knee, too bad about her knee, but the good news is fans are spared the bullshit of not singing live and can't even keep up with her own lip-syncing and faking playing the piano (sad!)

If he doesn't want anybody (that's including fans) taking a picture without his permission I ain't mad at him. He has that right. If he's a dickhead, then it's great to be a dickhead.

Haystack said:

I hope the kid don't get shit! I've said this before I am a Prince fan just like the rest of you and I don't have everything good to say about him, but I defend him on this. Just because you are fan don't give you the right to take pictures unless you are at a distance where you aren't coming up too close. Plus I don't believe the kid was beat up or that he's loosing sleep. If this kid got beat up a roughed up. Let's see a videotape of it. I'm sure the airport has video cameras everywhere in case stuff like this happens.

I'd like to see Prince make a total fool out of this kid and keep remaining the untouchable. If it was really bad, I wouldn't defend him, but people think that if they see a celeb they have a right to invade their privacy and NO you dont.
and he can keep shaking his ass with Beyonce or anybody else on tv if he wants too.

Rudy said:

You'll be right here whatever he decides to do next, just like everybody else.

yogiyb said:

Still you can't take pictures from a person without permission.

Oh gawd, there's no need to be such a cunt is there?
I think he needs to take a chill pill and write Lovesexy II

newdawn said:

"from" or "of" ?

newdawn said:

Fining a kid $50,000 makes him a selfish fucking arsehole, not a person.

DaARTIST said:

you sound like the guy who posted the bootleg sights and then said he wish prince would sue him, and when prince did he started crying like a little punk, If you did take His picture and his bodyguard took your camera you would be on her crying he took my camera, that ain't fair, what is not fair is not getting permission to take someone's picture, he gets paid for letting people photograph him, why would he let you make money off of him. You guys are a trip, no matter what Prince does or do not do you got something to criticize, I'm glad he counter- sued now maybe all those I will do what I want I don't care what he says will keep their camera;s to themselves.

Oh yeah, and the finding away to maniplilate the system with Musicology, just quit hating, give me a break, you complain that nobody wants to hear him anymore and now that he is the biggest thing since Prince in 84, you just hate to see it. Let down your PRIDE and get with the program. This is for all the ones that apply.

mrdespues said:

Well the Kid is asking for $50,000, Damn, what kind of camera was that?

jazzy328is said:

Who said the kid was making money off him ? He was purely a fan taking a photo.

So why isn't it fair for people to take photo's without permission huh ? Are you saying that if someone tries to take your photo without permission that this gives you the express right to assault them or steal from them ?

Prince has a real big hang up about "people making money off him" - why is that ? Oh yeah, "IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY" !

You made demonstrated this perfectly yourself there when you said "he gets paid for letting people photograph him"