While browsing at Sony Music Uk website... One of their main News items is Prince's DEBUT single from Musicology, Cinnamon Girl, is being released in the UK on July 26th.

Here's the link...

Sony Music UK

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Spayne said:

woo yay.
Altho I think "If Eye Was the Man in Ur Life" has a far greater hit potential amongst the youth of teh UK, Cinnamon Girl shouldn't do too badly, specially for teh adult listeners.

I agree with you about "If I was the man in Ur life". I keep trying to listen to "Cinnamon Girl" and it does not appeal to me. I am 33 yrs old even.. OLD!
I really like "A Million Days" I guess that has too much guitar in it to be played on the radio today- How sad!
I guess I will not have to worry about hearing it on any corporate radio station in Tampa, I never hear Prince played. Unless I listen to a local community radio station WMNF 88.5 Tampa. They have different formats throughout the day and some of the guys doing R&B and Funk have played several songs off of Musicology. I personal would rather hear my CD so I can skip the songs that I do not care for.

my vote: If I was the man in your life...sounds very modern

A single release over here is going to be useless unless a video accompanies the track. The Musicology video had some airplay here so it shows Prince will be played, but a good video is a must.

An interesting choice for single - poppy enough to be heard on radio but with lyrics that are current and meaningful enough to cause debate. With the climate in the UK tending towards disillusionment with what happened in Iraq, that may help to push it up the charts. I always thought the Black Eyed Peas were at number one so long with their song 'where is the love' because it mirrored the anti-war sentiments at the time - this could do the same, but probably on a lower level. I predict a top 30 hit for a week or 2 but not much more, but you never can tell...

he'll be doing a UK and probably european promo tour then. he has to. the 'wow' factor of prince 'being back' has vanished.

I thought the track Musicology was the debut single from the album released in the UK. I never went to buy it because it had a B-side (On the Couch) taken from the album.

Any ways, anyone know what the B-side to this one is then?

who cares what the next single is, we've all heard the album by now, we all know what the songs are about, who cares in what order there are released in or whether or not there will be a stupid video, you brits should only be worried about booking a hotel room when prince sales out wembly three days in a row some time in october

radici27 said:

Ok, steady.

Hopefully not Wembley stadium.

That's great for the UK, but what about the US? I'm baffled why Sony is moving so slowly getting the next single for pop radio. With so much positive buzz around Prince, the tour and the CD, why the hold up?
I guess the Clear Channel stranglehold on mainstream radio plods on. Which is another reason why the concert CD's is a brilliant strategy.

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GoldiesParade said:

The UK musicology single hasn't been released, has it?

eelco said:

It was never officially released. They sent promo copies to radio stations and it was all set to be released - then it was cancelled for who knows why? At that time the album was selling well on it's own, so maybe they thought they didn't need a single. It was released in other countries though.

Don't know what the b-side is but don't expect anything 'rare'. I reckon they will put Call My Name as the b-side and in the States Call My Name will be the single and Cinnamon girl the b-side - that way they can press the same single to save money!
[This message was edited Sun Jun 6 4:11:09 2004 by metalorange]

True, Musicology was only promo'd in the UK, it was never actually released as a single.
Since the UK charts are compiled soley on actual physical sales (airplay doesn't come into it)
that means that Cinnamon Girl will indeed be the 'debut' single from Musicology in the UK.
To do well it will have to get some decent airplay, and it MUST have a good video (if there
is no video, it has no hope of charting)

Good choice! As long as P stays active and releases singles regardless of how they chart it will help keep MUSICOLOGY saling at a steady pace and keep the interest in the Tour bcuz that's whats going 2 keep him in the public eye!

AntonyGolding said:

At least build excitement by playin it in concert.

I've said it before....almost every song can be released from this album. SIngles screaming all over it.

Strange that ICP&C hasn't been mentioned and though not my favorite choice is the most obvious choice for a single...IMO.

superspaceboy said:

So was Adore on the SOTT but P seems 2 hold back some of the better singles so that people will go buy the album. Remember that P said that artist don't get paid off the single but selling the album is priority. Look at PR he did'nt put out Darling Nikki as a single or B-side and 2 me that definitely would have been 1 of the classic singles of all time!

I fear that no matter what the next (or first official) single is, it is bound to fail. If you look back at the last few albums that had chart success, you will see that the first single had reasonable success but everything after that failed.
My theory is that the average person that buys a Prince album will not buy a single. I also think that prince gets it wrong by releasing the album before the singles. If he released, say 3 sinlges, over a 6 month period, then released the album, more people would buy it cause it has got songs on it that have been heard on the radio. An example of this is Jackson's Thriller album (I think?).
Anyway, it's nice to hear a refreshing new album with no rapping or preaching. 'Bout time!

BigAl said:

I reckon these days sad as it is, the ideal way is to release a killer single that gets high in the charts, with associated video and tv appearances on kids tv shows and TOTP and suchlike, then after a few weeks release the album, follow that up quickly with the 2nd single with associated video and tv appearances, then a month or 2 later release a 3rd single just as you are touring the country.

But, you know, Prince can't be on tour everywhere at once!

BigAl said:

Prince has always been unconventional. His b-sides being better than the official single at the time or that u have 2 listen 2 the whole LOVESEXY cd bcuz it was'nt tracked normally. I'll say it again that P is easing his way back in2 the publics eyes with his new persona. If P stays on a mainstream vibe 4 the next few years he will have a new core group of fans that will push all of his cd's platinum just like Luther Vandross's core group does! He's an elderstatesman now and not teeny bopper so his cd's will b steady sellers but not blockbusters bcuz he's 46 people. And unless he gets the hottest rappers or hiphop producers he's not selling 10 million copies. P is right where he should b at this time!

radici27 said:

- Prince cares. Is there any doubt that he is doing everything to sell millions of copies of Musicology? From the video to the production of the album, he tried to make his most accessible music in years. Very different from TRC and NEWS.

ELBOOGY said:

- I agree with you. You dont have to sell to the teens to sell well. Guys like Sting and Bruce Springsteen and Luther Vandross sell tons of albums and have huge number of fans. I think Prince should only care about doing good music and trying to reach a nice audience for it.

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eelco said:

It was never officially released. They sent promo copies to radio stations and it was all set to be released - then it was cancelled for who knows why? At that time the album was selling well on it's own, so maybe they thought they didn't need a single. It was released in other countries though.

I had pre-ordered the musicology single on HMV's Website, the site showed that the single would be out before the album so I pre-ordered it. The album came but no single and the website showed that it was withdrawn but a few weeks later the Musicology single b/w On the couch came through the post to me. If its now only 'a promo release' how come I've got one and will it be worth anything?

Seems incredibly late for a single, usually they precede the album.....perhaps its timed to coincide with a Prince visit??

The website mistakely says the album was released on 19th MAY when it was 19th APRIL.....A BIT SCARY SEEING AS THIS IS THE RECORD COMPANY LOL
[This message was edited Mon Jun 7 13:52:30 2004 by TheFreakerFantastic]

its 1 of his best songs among with If I Was The Man In UR Life & A Million Days..but cinnamon girl will do it, but IIWTMIURL is a better single for the promotion of prince.....

ok ok...thats great news but i HOPE I CAN FIND IT!


I looked EVERYWHERE for Musicology CD Single in my area...
HMV
Woolworths...
WHSmith

The Single Sony UK 'also' announced about...
and nothing ever became of it... did P pull it at the last minute...???

or reschedule...

hmmm

maybe it might be a case of deja vous when this single is released?

Hope Not!

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