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Thread started 06/06/04 10:56am

dubiousraves

Why not reissue TRC next?

An outlandish idea? Perhaps. But now that Prince is back in the spotlight, doesn't it make sense for him to let the rest of the world hear his best recent album?

Here's the scenario: In a year or so, enough time for Musicology to fade, he could get another one-off deal with a major label to do the proper distribution on TRC. Maybe it would chart, maybe it wouldn't, but it would get the hearing and discussion it deserves. My guess is it would be recognized by a large audience for what it is: a major, innovative, groundbreaking work by one of the greatest artists ever to work in rock or R&B.

And, hey, Christianity is hip these days, ain't it? What with the success of Passion of the Christ, etc...

TRC is too good to be a strictly fan-only affair. It needs to be heard!
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Reply #1 posted 06/06/04 11:06am

croweonbranch

I'm still seeing copies of it EVERYWHERE around here...
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Reply #2 posted 06/06/04 11:07am

dubiousraves

croweonbranch said:

I'm still seeing copies of it EVERYWHERE around here...



where's "here"?
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Reply #3 posted 06/06/04 11:48am

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It's readily available in the UK in both High St retail outlets and online.
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Reply #4 posted 06/06/04 12:20pm

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It's also easy to find at Tower and Best Buy in....at least in SoCal.

As far as I know TRC was distributed pretty well in the States.


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Reply #5 posted 06/06/04 12:43pm

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I think it would be kind of pointless to reissue the Rainbow Children. It is easily available now, the simple truth is that the general public doesn't want to hear it. It's simply too "out there" for most people. I don't think that any major label push could greatly increase it's sales.

What I would like to see is the original WB albums released from 1978-1996 reissued. If only Prince and WB would play nice together. Think about it, each album reissued with a second disc full of B-Sides, Extended Versions, Live Tracks and Outtakes. Now that would be a reissue worth buying! Sigh, maybe someday.
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Reply #6 posted 06/06/04 12:44pm

DigitalGardin

dubiousraves said:

An outlandish idea? Perhaps. But now that Prince is back in the spotlight, doesn't it make sense for him to let the rest of the world hear his best recent album?

Here's the scenario: In a year or so, enough time for Musicology to fade, he could get another one-off deal with a major label to do the proper distribution on TRC. Maybe it would chart, maybe it wouldn't, but it would get the hearing and discussion it deserves. My guess is it would be recognized by a large audience for what it is: a major, innovative, groundbreaking work by one of the greatest artists ever to work in rock or R&B.

And, hey, Christianity is hip these days, ain't it? What with the success of Passion of the Christ, etc...

TRC is too good to be a strictly fan-only affair. It needs to be heard!



I never knew that TRC was out of print. I wonder why he yanked it?
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Reply #7 posted 06/06/04 12:47pm

dubiousraves

Supernova said:

It's also easy to find at Tower and Best Buy in....at least in SoCal.

As far as I know TRC was distributed pretty well in the States.


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There was no promotional budget on it, and critics didn't get review copies, thus ensuring that TRC didn't get reviewed. Also, it was released during P's purgatory, so no one was paying attention. The upshot: only diehard fans heard TRC. And that's a damned shame.

Now, with P resurgent, things could be different. That's why I think he should reissue it on a major label, with full promotion and videos, the works.
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Reply #8 posted 06/06/04 12:55pm

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rialb said:

I think it would be kind of pointless to reissue the Rainbow Children. It is easily available now, the simple truth is that the general public doesn't want to hear it. It's simply too "out there" for most people. I don't think that any major label push could greatly increase it's sales.

What I would like to see is the original WB albums released from 1978-1996 reissued. If only Prince and WB would play nice together. Think about it, each album reissued with a second disc full of B-Sides, Extended Versions, Live Tracks and Outtakes. Now that would be a reissue worth buying! Sigh, maybe someday.



There's no way to judge if it's too "out there" without giving people a chance to make that judgment. With weak distribution, no promotion and no reviews, they haven't had that chance.

Of course a major-label push could greatly increase its sales. A major-label push could get a turd on the charts, and often does. That's the game.

Do you really think if Musicology had been released 2 years ago, on NPG or Red records, with no review copies sent out to critics, that anyone would have given it the time of day?
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Reply #9 posted 06/06/04 1:09pm

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Prince has never shown any interest in 'going back' or re-releasing a previous album before
so I don't expect him to start now (...I mean, to him it's like 4 years old now!).

Plus he spent a lot more time promoting and touring TRC than practically any other album
he's made, I'm sure he feels that 'that' era is very much 'done'.
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Reply #10 posted 06/06/04 1:10pm

Supernova

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dubiousraves said:

Supernova said:

It's also easy to find at Tower and Best Buy in....at least in SoCal.

As far as I know TRC was distributed pretty well in the States.


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There was no promotional budget on it, and critics didn't get review copies, thus ensuring that TRC didn't get reviewed. Also, it was released during P's purgatory, so no one was paying attention. The upshot: only diehard fans heard TRC. And that's a damned shame.

Now, with P resurgent, things could be different. That's why I think he should reissue it on a major label, with full promotion and videos, the works.

Oh I'm not saying it was promoted well, or that anyone outside of the hardcore fans heard it. But overall it was one of his best reviewed albums in YEARS. During the past version of Prince.org those reviews were posted and kept track of. Byron in particular could tell you about the ratio of good to bad reviews, and most were good. And these were reviews from all over the world. I agree it is a shame it wasn't heard by more people.
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Reply #11 posted 06/06/04 1:12pm

Supernova

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dubiousraves said:

rialb said:

I think it would be kind of pointless to reissue the Rainbow Children. It is easily available now, the simple truth is that the general public doesn't want to hear it. It's simply too "out there" for most people. I don't think that any major label push could greatly increase it's sales.

What I would like to see is the original WB albums released from 1978-1996 reissued. If only Prince and WB would play nice together. Think about it, each album reissued with a second disc full of B-Sides, Extended Versions, Live Tracks and Outtakes. Now that would be a reissue worth buying! Sigh, maybe someday.



There's no way to judge if it's too "out there" without giving people a chance to make that judgment.

Precisely. But I doubt TRC would be reissued anytime soon. The timing IS right for the first decade of albums to be remastered, though.
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Reply #12 posted 06/06/04 2:15pm

dubiousraves

BorisFishpaw said:

Prince has never shown any interest in 'going back' or re-releasing a previous album before
so I don't expect him to start now (...I mean, to him it's like 4 years old now!).

Plus he spent a lot more time promoting and touring TRC than practically any other album
he's made, I'm sure he feels that 'that' era is very much 'done'.
[This message was edited Sun Jun 6 13:12:05 2004 by BorisFishpaw]



Good points, all. I don't seriously believe he'll reissue TRC, but you gotta dream. It's such a crime that so few know about this album.
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Reply #13 posted 06/06/04 3:18pm

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So remastering the albums would be strictly for sound quality right?
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Reply #14 posted 06/06/04 3:21pm

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Love2tha9s said:

So remastering the albums would be strictly for sound quality right?

yes.
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Reply #15 posted 06/06/04 4:23pm

Mazerati

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dubiousraves said:

An outlandish idea? Perhaps. But now that Prince is back in the spotlight, doesn't it make sense for him to let the rest of the world hear his best recent album?

Here's the scenario: In a year or so, enough time for Musicology to fade, he could get another one-off deal with a major label to do the proper distribution on TRC. Maybe it would chart, maybe it wouldn't, but it would get the hearing and discussion it deserves. My guess is it would be recognized by a large audience for what it is: a major, innovative, groundbreaking work by one of the greatest artists ever to work in rock or R&B.

And, hey, Christianity is hip these days, ain't it? What with the success of Passion of the Christ, etc...

TRC is too good to be a strictly fan-only affair. It needs to be heard!


man am i glad your not in charge of what gets released lol your idea would kill Prince's momentum big time,,do you really think the general public would like and get that album? i have been a Prince fan over 20 years and i dont even get it or like it...now MY plan would be to re release The Gold Experience! that would keep the momentum going
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #16 posted 06/06/04 4:33pm

dubiousraves

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man am i glad your not in charge of what gets released lol your idea would kill Prince's momentum big time,,do you really think the general public would like and get that album? i have been a Prince fan over 20 years and i dont even get it or like it...now MY plan would be to re release The Gold Experience! that would keep the momentum going


The Gold Experience already had its major-label run, courtesy of WB. TRC might not be a chart-topper if rereleased, but it sure would generate discussion. And it would allow Prince to get props for actually accomplishing something -- breaking new musical ground, again! -- as opposed to just stepping back in the spotlight.
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Reply #17 posted 06/06/04 5:06pm

Mazerati

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dubiousraves said:

Mazerati said:



man am i glad your not in charge of what gets released lol your idea would kill Prince's momentum big time,,do you really think the general public would like and get that album? i have been a Prince fan over 20 years and i dont even get it or like it...now MY plan would be to re release The Gold Experience! that would keep the momentum going


The Gold Experience already had its major-label run, courtesy of WB. TRC might not be a chart-topper if rereleased, but it sure would generate discussion. And it would allow Prince to get props for actually accomplishing something -- breaking new musical ground, again! -- as opposed to just stepping back in the spotlight.


I dont know i just hope TRC clicks with me one day because it bothers me it being the only Prince album i dont like...maybe one day
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Reply #18 posted 06/06/04 6:04pm

SassyBritches

bad idea. next...
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Reply #19 posted 06/06/04 7:57pm

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croweonbranch said:

I'm still seeing copies of it EVERYWHERE around here...

Where? What city? I need one.
I went to best buy in two cities...and I went on-line looking for it.
My friend in Califoria looked for it too, and could not find it.
They don't have it at NPGMC....
So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #20 posted 06/06/04 8:14pm

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Nah, there's no need. I kinda feel like TRC/ONA/Xpectation/News was a special time that people can go back to & discover on their own. Or maybe they can do it in the future but now isn't the right time to take things in a totally different direction. Since we're looking WAY back to the PR years get on that remastering of the entire back catalogue. Even start w/ PR but that's the more pressing issue IMO...
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Reply #21 posted 06/06/04 8:38pm

tullyblanchard

DigitalGardin said:

dubiousraves said:

An outlandish idea? Perhaps. But now that Prince is back in the spotlight, doesn't it make sense for him to let the rest of the world hear his best recent album?

Here's the scenario: In a year or so, enough time for Musicology to fade, he could get another one-off deal with a major label to do the proper distribution on TRC. Maybe it would chart, maybe it wouldn't, but it would get the hearing and discussion it deserves. My guess is it would be recognized by a large audience for what it is: a major, innovative, groundbreaking work by one of the greatest artists ever to work in rock or R&B.

And, hey, Christianity is hip these days, ain't it? What with the success of Passion of the Christ, etc...

TRC is too good to be a strictly fan-only affair. It needs to be heard!



I never knew that TRC was out of print. I wonder why he yanked it?
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Reply #22 posted 06/06/04 9:42pm

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dubiousraves said:

An outlandish idea? Perhaps. But now that Prince is back in the spotlight, doesn't it make sense for him to let the rest of the world hear his best recent album?

Here's the scenario: In a year or so, enough time for Musicology to fade, he could get another one-off deal with a major label to do the proper distribution on TRC. Maybe it would chart, maybe it wouldn't, but it would get the hearing and discussion it deserves. My guess is it would be recognized by a large audience for what it is: a major, innovative, groundbreaking work by one of the greatest artists ever to work in rock or R&B.

And, hey, Christianity is hip these days, ain't it? What with the success of Passion of the Christ, etc...

TRC is too good to be a strictly fan-only affair. It needs to be heard!



IM PISSED OFF THAT I DIDNT THINK OF THIS THREAD FIRST... I LOVE THE IDEA
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Reply #23 posted 06/06/04 10:00pm

dubiousraves

tullyblanchard said:

DigitalGardin said:




I never knew that TRC was out of print. I wonder why he yanked it?



I never heard anything about it being out of print. I just think he should rerelease it on a major label. It wouldn't have to be out of print for that, because he owns it.
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Reply #24 posted 06/06/04 11:36pm

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dubiousraves said:

tullyblanchard said:




I never heard anything about it being out of print. I just think he should rerelease it on a major label. It wouldn't have to be out of print for that, because he owns it.


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Reply #25 posted 06/07/04 12:38am

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That Darth Vader voice just freaks out too many ppl, and the lyrics are way too preachy and pretentious. Definitely one for the true fans only.
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Reply #26 posted 06/07/04 7:16am

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SensualMelody said:

croweonbranch said:

I'm still seeing copies of it EVERYWHERE around here...

Where? What city? I need one.
I went to best buy in two cities...and I went on-line looking for it.
My friend in Califoria looked for it too, and could not find it.
They don't have it at NPGMC....


I saw bunches of them the last time I was at my local Best Buy in Maplewood Minnesota.
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Reply #27 posted 06/07/04 11:52am

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dubiousraves said:

An outlandish idea? Perhaps. But now that Prince is back in the spotlight, doesn't it make sense for him to let the rest of the world hear his best recent album?

Here's the scenario: In a year or so, enough time for Musicology to fade, he could get another one-off deal with a major label to do the proper distribution on TRC. Maybe it would chart, maybe it wouldn't, but it would get the hearing and discussion it deserves. My guess is it would be recognized by a large audience for what it is: a major, innovative, groundbreaking work by one of the greatest artists ever to work in rock or R&B.

And, hey, Christianity is hip these days, ain't it? What with the success of Passion of the Christ, etc...

TRC is too good to be a strictly fan-only affair. It needs to be heard!


Yes, it's really good, but I highly doubt the casual fan would like it.

I'd much rather see a re-issue of anything pre come lol

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Reply #28 posted 06/07/04 1:58pm

croweonbranch

I'm in MA, near Boston. Stores around here seem to have copies pretty much randomly. Best Buy has tons of copies, though. They also had the singles for New Power Generation and the Scandalous Sex Suite for whatever reason.
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Reply #29 posted 06/07/04 3:58pm

dubiousraves

croweonbranch said:

I'm in MA, near Boston. Stores around here seem to have copies pretty much randomly. Best Buy has tons of copies, though. They also had the singles for New Power Generation and the Scandalous Sex Suite for whatever reason.



You'll always find 'em at Best Buy, because Best Buy owns the label, Redline records, that distributed TRC.

And Best Buy knows about as much as distributing records as a fish knows about a bicycle.
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