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Thread started 06/09/04 5:49pm

thebanishedone

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there is one thing that prince does better then steve vai,satriani... on guitar

prince isn't better tehnical then those guys
,but he knows how to build better tension on guitar.
for example on the guitar solo on west,
he solos and after few bars he uses feedbeck to build the monumentum of the solo.
it's realy incredible.
or the way he used those high and low notes with whhammy bar while he played bambi(celebration 2002_).
i don't know if you ppl can understand what i meant to say but the fact is that when he wants he is realy mean muthaf....r on guitar.
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Reply #1 posted 06/09/04 7:08pm

mrdespues

I understand and I agree.

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Reply #2 posted 06/10/04 3:27am

thebanishedone

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i guess u and i are the only ppl.
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Reply #3 posted 06/10/04 3:32am

charlottegelin

Plus Prince looks HOT when he plays razz
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Reply #4 posted 06/10/04 4:11am

Mindflux

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Actually, Prince is way better technically than most people seem to give him credit for - particulary when it comes to rythym guitar!

However, it is his overall savvy with music composition and arrangment and his amazing feel that allow him to be so expressive and sound head and ahoulders above the rest!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #5 posted 06/10/04 6:47am

hectim

There are many things P does better. The only thing he doesn't do better are typical 80's shred techniques like superfast alternate picked scales, whammy bar tricks, sweep picked arpeggio's and two-hand tapping. But he's definitely better than those guys at catchy melodies, expressive vibrato, building tension and drama. And his timing is superior, as demonstrated not only by his leads but also his rhythm playing.
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Reply #6 posted 06/10/04 7:43am

krebsne

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I would say that over the course of his career the main thing Prince has done better with his guitar than any of the people you mentioned (or any other notable guitar players) is...

GET LAID BY HHOOOOOTTT WOMEN!! wink
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Reply #7 posted 06/10/04 8:04am

BlaqueKnight

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Oh gawd! This bullshit AGAIN? rolleyes lurking
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Reply #8 posted 06/10/04 8:46am

Mindflux

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Yeah - who'd have thought it? Discussing Prince on a Prince site.

I don't really see what your problem is - sure, there are some mega-obsessives on here, but so what? Who cares? Are they hurting anyone? So they think Prince is better than anyone - what is wrong with that? You can't say that they are wrong - to them, he is the best thing ever - I'm happy for them.

But to constantly berate people for discussing their favourite subject, as you do, is equivalent to the same obsessive behaviour that you so openly deplore.
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #9 posted 06/10/04 8:48am

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krebsne said:

I would say that over the course of his career the main thing Prince has done better with his guitar than any of the people you mentioned (or any other notable guitar players) is...

GET LAID BY HHOOOOOTTT WOMEN!! wink

lol
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Reply #10 posted 06/10/04 10:16am

BlaqueKnight

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Mindflux said:

Yeah - who'd have thought it? Discussing Prince on a Prince site.

I don't really see what your problem is - sure, there are some mega-obsessives on here, but so what? Who cares? Are they hurting anyone? So they think Prince is better than anyone - what is wrong with that? You can't say that they are wrong - to them, he is the best thing ever - I'm happy for them.

But to constantly berate people for discussing their favourite subject, as you do, is equivalent to the same obsessive behaviour that you so openly deplore.




First off, OF COURSE there is going to be Prince discussion on here. Everythread in this section is about Prince. Duh! What I meant was not the Prince vs. whoever on guitar" thread AGAIN. There a SO many its ridiculous. DO A SEARCH. Second off, I haven't berated anyone on this thread. I have just as much of a right to post what I want as does anyone else. You can be "happy for them", I can say they are full of shit, or I can be happy for/with them, too. Its a message board. That's what posting opinions are all about.
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Reply #11 posted 06/10/04 1:16pm

thebanishedone

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blaq knight,everytime there is a discussion of prince guitar playing ,u always bash prince.why?
from the activity of your postings i would say that you are a prince fan.
no way that you are prince fan and that you don't like his guitar playing.
prince realy is a great guitar player.
his main problem is that he is sometimes unispired.
and by the way aren't you the guy that claimed that he wiped prince ass on bambi at one nite alone soundchecks?
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Reply #12 posted 06/10/04 1:17pm

Handclapsfinga
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thebanishedone said:

and by the way aren't you the guy that claimed that he wiped prince ass on bambi at one nite alone soundchecks?

you're thinkin of another cat who ain't even on this site anymore.
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Reply #13 posted 06/10/04 1:28pm

Giovanni777

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BLAQUEKNIGHT:

I hear U about the comparison thing, BUT:

This site is so full of fans that don't play any instrument, let alone guitar, and everytime I try 2 discuss anything musical here, I get little interest.... In fact, when I tell people there is something going on at Paisley, and it's not shutting down, as many people here think, I get no replies. Soooo... at least these folks R discussing guitar style and technique...

I think we need to start a musical Prince site.

Peace!

G.
[This message was edited Thu Jun 10 13:38:39 2004 by Giovanni777]
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #14 posted 06/10/04 1:33pm

BlaqueKnight

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thebanishedone said:

blaq knight,everytime there is a discussion of prince guitar playing ,u always bash prince.why?
from the activity of your postings i would say that you are a prince fan.
no way that you are prince fan and that you don't like his guitar playing.
prince realy is a great guitar player.
his main problem is that he is sometimes unispired.
and by the way aren't you the guy that claimed that he wiped prince ass on bambi at one nite alone soundchecks?



How do you know when you're obsessed? When you perceive not worshipping as bashing. On many occasions I have stated that Prince is a GOOD guitar player. Just because I don't think he is the end-all-be-all of guitar doesn't mean I think he SUCKS. I have never said he sucked on guitar.
And you are wrong. I CAN like Prince's music and not care for his guitar playing. As I have said before, how much guitar playing you listen to MAY have a factor in how one would rate Prince's playing.
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Reply #15 posted 06/10/04 2:38pm

ThreadBare

I'd say Prince's lefthand vibrato was the bomb. But Vai and Satch can burn -- so I wouldn't say better in any regard.


just ... different.
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Reply #16 posted 06/10/04 5:46pm

charlottegelin

his name was Stevie Vai, and he's a crazy guy, last november I recall he needed a spankin'
Laurel was her name, she came from Notre Dame... cool
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Reply #17 posted 06/10/04 6:01pm

squirrelgrease

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Prince knows when not to play guitar. Many tech-shredders don't.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #18 posted 06/10/04 7:18pm

lunacoco

No, I'm not a guitar player. I think what I like best about Prince's guitar playing is the tastefulness with which he plays, and and the feeling. I disliked the ultra-long "rant" jamming I heard him do in some early work. But I notice his solos took on a more "meaningful" feel at some point. His guitar work is more outstanding in live performances too. True, he knows when NOT to play.
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Reply #19 posted 06/11/04 3:15am

hectim

It's a little dry, Stevie won't you try, to drool a little drool on it and grease the banana!

charlottegelin said:

his name was Stevie Vai, and he's a crazy guy, last november I recall he needed a spankin'
Laurel was her name, she came from Notre Dame... cool
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Reply #20 posted 06/11/04 9:32am

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thebanishedone said:

blaq knight,everytime there is a discussion of prince guitar playing ,u always bash prince.

like clockwork. biggrin
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Reply #21 posted 06/11/04 9:41am

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Mindflux said:

Yeah - who'd have thought it? Discussing Prince on a Prince site.

I don't really see what your problem is - sure, there are some mega-obsessives on here, but so what? Who cares? Are they hurting anyone? So they think Prince is better than anyone - what is wrong with that? You can't say that they are wrong - to them, he is the best thing ever - I'm happy for them.

But to constantly berate people for discussing their favourite subject, as you do, is equivalent to the same obsessive behaviour that you so openly deplore.


sarcasm alert on

Because you're not EDUCATED enough about the HISTORY of guitar to say that Prince is one of the best...you don't put Prince over HENDRIX, or VAI...how dare you?? How DARE you have the opinion that Prince is an awesome guitar player...if you don't have THOUSANDS of records by the other guys, then you're NOT ALLOWED to say that Prince is really good, because you haven't done your HOMEWORK, and you deserve to be LOOKED DOWN UPON, because well, you're just simply IGNORANT...STOP HAVING THE OPINION THAT PRINCE IS ONE OF THE BEST, BECAUSE DAMMIT, HE JUST ISNT!!! I don't CARE if his guitar playing MOVES you...You're not allowed to be an INDIVIDUAL in this area, so dammit, just STOP IT! STOP IT, I SAY!!


sarcasm alert off



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Reply #22 posted 06/11/04 10:26am

BlaqueKnight

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Giovanni777 said:

BLAQUEKNIGHT:

I hear U about the comparison thing, BUT:

This site is so full of fans that don't play any instrument, let alone guitar, and everytime I try 2 discuss anything musical here, I get little interest.... In fact, when I tell people there is something going on at Paisley, and it's not shutting down, as many people here think, I get no replies. Soooo... at least these folks R discussing guitar style and technique...

I think we need to start a musical Prince site.

Peace!

G.
[This message was edited Thu Jun 10 13:38:39 2004 by Giovanni777]



I feel you.
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Reply #23 posted 06/11/04 10:46am

7salles

Blaqueknight , did you play at the celebration? Do you think nuno bettencourt is better than Prince?
[This message was edited Fri Jun 11 10:46:49 2004 by 7salles]
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Reply #24 posted 06/11/04 11:39am

ChadtheRTF

The only thing Prince is better at than those guys is that he can dance while playing guitar at the same time. All sarcasm aside, that's really hard to do while in the midst of a difficult guitar solo.
BLEEP BLEEP!
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Reply #25 posted 06/11/04 5:51pm

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confused Personally I don't see what all of the fuss is about. It's not about who is 'better' it's all about personal preference.
It's like art, you wouldn't say Van Gogh was a 'better' painter than Monet, because you prefer the way he painted flowers.
Prince is personally my favourite guitar player. He's not better than Clapton, Santan or Vai, I just prefer his style.







" I got the butter for yo muffin honey.... I'm just 2 old 2 hold the knife!"
I've never been one for this thing obsession...
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