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The Black Album I bought a cd copy of the black album from ebay this week and it got delivered today, i got it from germany so it's a european version, but i have a couple of queries about whether it's real or if it's a bootleg, it's supposed to be real.
The main thing that got my attention is that on the tracklist inside the cd it says "ROCKHARD IN A FUNNY PLACE" i could've sworn this song is supposed to be rockhard in a funky place! Is this a known printing error or have i been ripped off?? Apart from the tracklist the only other detail on the cd is the code: P 910003 under the tracklist on the booklet and on the cd spine. The box has the warner logo also in the bottom right corner. Can anyone tell me whether or not i've got a proper copy!! Thanks! [This message was edited Thu Jun 3 5:26:42 2004 by phillipt] | |
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phillipt said: I bought a cd copy of the black album from ebay this week and it got delivered today, i got it from germany so it's a european version, but i have a couple of queries about whether it's real or if it's a bootleg, it's supposed to be real.
The main thing that got my attention is that on the tracklist inside the cd it says "ROCKHARD IN A FUNNY PLACE" i could've sworn this song is supposed to be rockhard in a funky place! Is this a known printing error or have i been ripped off?? Apart from the tracklist the only other detail on the cd is the code: P 910003 under the tracklist on the booklet and on the cd spine. The box has the warner logo also in the bottom right corner. Can anyone tell me whether or not i've got a proper copy!! Thanks! [This message was edited Thu Jun 3 5:26:42 2004 by phillipt] Sounds for all the world like a bootleg I'm afraid. The released 94 version has the number 9362-45793-2 on the spine. Also there isn't a booklet as such just a single black sheet of paper. There is a sticker on the CD box that says Prince The legendary Black Album limited edition which also has the above mentioned number. The track listing is only printed on the CD itself and doesn't have the spelling mistake you mentioned. looks like you've been duped I'm afraid. if you've gotta pay for things that you've done wrong I've gotta big bill coming at the end of the day- Gil Scott Heron
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That really sucks, but I can't help laughing at that mistake. |
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Definitely a boot I'm afraid.
Genuine copies don't have any spelling mistakes and only have writing on the spine and the disc itself. | |
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Can anyone explain the differences between a "booted" black album...the original release (was it even on CD) and the 1994 release to get out of the contract? And why do people want to own the original..isn't it the same in music/sound as the 1994 release?
I have the 1994 one. It's great..though I hear stuff that it has no bass and sounds terrible. What should it sound like? I remember as a teen, I saw the Black album on Vinyl. it was all black and had a pic of prince in a matte finish (you had to turn it to the light to see it) on the front and the song titles on the back (also in matte). Was this the original pressing of the vinyl? Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Can anyone explain the differences between a "booted" black album...the original release (was it even on CD) and the 1994 release to get out of the contract? And why do people want to own the original..isn't it the same in music/sound as the 1994 release?
I have the 1994 one. It's great..though I hear stuff that it has no bass and sounds terrible. What should it sound like? I remember as a teen, I saw the Black album on Vinyl. it was all black and had a pic of prince in a matte finish (you had to turn it to the light to see it) on the front and the song titles on the back (also in matte). Was this the original pressing of the vinyl? 1) The original release: late 1987: Vinyl only. About 40 albums are said to be saved from the destroyer. 2) 1988 - 1994: loads of bootlegs. At first vinyls, later cd's. Quality varries from very bad 'till excellent. 3) 1994: official release on cd and coloured vinyl. Like all 80's albums: the vinyls exceed the cd's in quality easily .... but coloured vinyls have worse quality. So: the best release .... the 1987 vinyl release second best .... the 1994 cd release third best .... the 1994 coloured vinyls worst ....the bootlegs but I would never trust anybody selling a 1987 original | |
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Do you really need to be told the difference between a bootleg and an official release??? | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Do you really need to be told the difference between a bootleg and an official release???
hey, people gotta learn sometimes...  | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: BorisFishpaw said: Do you really need to be told the difference between a bootleg and an official release???
hey, people gotta learn sometimes... True, though it is worrying 
No wonder the music industry is going down the pan! [This message was edited Thu Jun 3 12:26:57 2004 by BorisFishpaw] | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Do you really need to be told the difference between a bootleg and an official release???
No, I know the difference between a boot and a release. The ? was more for sound quality than anything I just have seen different threads talking about the varied forms that TBA came out. I just wanted to know the difference...mostly between the 1987 and the 1994 release as folks talk about it being better. Apparently the differences are slight and one would only want the original pressing to collect. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: I remember as a teen, I saw the Black album on Vinyl. it was all black and had a pic of prince in a matte finish (you had to turn it to the light to see it) on the front and the song titles on the back (also in matte). Was this the original pressing of the vinyl?
no. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: superspaceboy said: I remember as a teen, I saw the Black album on Vinyl. it was all black and had a pic of prince in a matte finish (you had to turn it to the light to see it) on the front and the song titles on the back (also in matte). Was this the original pressing of the vinyl?
no. Correct. That's the particular bootleg I bought myself. It's on Erotic City Records, not WB. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: superspaceboy said: I remember as a teen, I saw the Black album on Vinyl. it was all black and had a pic of prince in a matte finish (you had to turn it to the light to see it) on the front and the song titles on the back (also in matte). Was this the original pressing of the vinyl?
no. WOW. I totally thought it was. I wasn't really into P at the time(casual fan), but when I saw it, I knew what it was. I almost bought it just because. GLad I didn't. Looked really cool for a vinyl bootleg. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: BorisFishpaw said: Do you really need to be told the difference between a bootleg and an official release???
No, I know the difference between a boot and a release. The ? was more for sound quality than anything I just have seen different threads talking about the varied forms that TBA came out. I just wanted to know the difference...mostly between the 1987 and the 1994 release as folks talk about it being better. Apparently the differences are slight and one would only want the original pressing to collect. Well I can't comment on the quality of old black album boots (I only have one, on vinyl). But as far as the official 1987 and 1994 versions go, they're musically identical. Which is why the 1994 CD sounds a little flat and quiet (just like Sign O' The Times), because they didn't remaster it at all from the original 1987 (non)release (the packaging is almost the same too). | |
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BorisFishpaw said: superspaceboy said: No, I know the difference between a boot and a release. The ? was more for sound quality than anything I just have seen different threads talking about the varied forms that TBA came out. I just wanted to know the difference...mostly between the 1987 and the 1994 release as folks talk about it being better. Apparently the differences are slight and one would only want the original pressing to collect. Well I can't comment on the quality of old black album boots (I only have one, on vinyl). But as far as the official 1987 and 1994 versions go, they're musically identical. Which is why the 1994 CD sounds a little flat and quiet (just like Sign O' The Times), because they didn't remaster it at all from the original 1987 (non)release (the packaging is almost the same too). Ok Thanks! That explains all of the comments regarding the black album lacking bass..which I never understood. Thanks again. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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BorisFishpaw said: superspaceboy said: No, I know the difference between a boot and a release. The ? was more for sound quality than anything I just have seen different threads talking about the varied forms that TBA came out. I just wanted to know the difference...mostly between the 1987 and the 1994 release as folks talk about it being better. Apparently the differences are slight and one would only want the original pressing to collect. Well I can't comment on the quality of old black album boots (I only have one, on vinyl). But as far as the official 1987 and 1994 versions go, they're musically identical. Which is why the 1994 CD sounds a little flat and quiet (just like Sign O' The Times), because they didn't remaster it at all from the original 1987 (non)release (the packaging is almost the same too). Plus the officially released '94 Black Album has tons of tape hiss, as did the '87 version. They didn't clean it up at all. I have '80's era Black Album boots with EXACTLY the same sound quality, believe it or not. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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phillipt said: The main thing that got my attention is that on the tracklist inside the cd it says "ROCKHARD IN A FUNNY PLACE" i could've sworn this song is supposed to be rockhard in a funky place! Is this a known printing error or have i been ripped off?? Apart from the tracklist the only other detail on the cd is the code: P 910003 under the tracklist on the booklet and on the cd spine. The box has the warner logo also in the bottom right corner. [This message was edited Thu Jun 3 5:26:42 2004 by phillipt] Your Black Album bootleg sounds better than mine! I believe I was buying the 1994 Warner's release and was duped by a seller. I not only had cover art (it's suppposed to be black with no printing), but a track listing on the inner cover AND it contained TWO additonal songs - one was Old Freinds for Sale - which appeared on The Vault - but I was told that the one on my boot Black Album is a different version than that. I finally got a real copy of the Black Album - and although I was really pissed about getting the boot at first (got refunded in full by Amazon BTW) - it's kind of an unusal keepsake... oh, well!  VOTE....EARLY | |
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I know that I am gonna get a lot of flack for this but, I like the original bootleg better. To me the CD version sounded "to clean" I actually gave mine away and kept the original bootleg. To me the beauty of the Black album, was that it WAS a bootleg. There are somethings that just don't sound good on cd. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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I just got a original "The Black Album" here in Rio! It has all the specifications that SOULYACOLIA stated down below...I got it from a street vendor who sells original CDs...and it cost me US$3. Luli | |
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shorttrini said: I know that I am gonna get a lot of flack for this but, I like the original bootleg better. To me the CD version sounded "to clean" I actually gave mine away and kept the original bootleg. To me the beauty of the Black album, was that it WAS a bootleg. There are somethings that just don't sound good on cd.
I know exactly what you mean about that. "The Black Album" regularly gets passed over as "strictly for collectors/diehards" in most Prince "essential" lists you find these days, but I remember a 1989 NME piece which included "The Black Album" in its top 5 essential Prince albums. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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