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Thread started 05/25/04 1:45pm

Susann209

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How tormented is he?

When I am enjoying the genius of Prince's music, I often wonder just how tormented he is by being a vehicle for it. How unhappy do you think he may be at times? Sometimes I worry about him so much it makes me sad.....
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Reply #1 posted 05/25/04 2:40pm

roodboi

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Reply #2 posted 05/25/04 3:34pm

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Susann209 said:

When I am enjoying the genius of Prince's music, I often wonder just how tormented he is by being a vehicle for it. How unhappy do you think he may be at times? Sometimes I worry about him so much it makes me sad.....

rolleyes Probably as tormented as you or I get sometimes. I wouldn't get too sad though. If he was that tormented I don't think he'd be touring the US at the moment.
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Reply #3 posted 05/25/04 6:32pm

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He's not exactly digging fucking ditches for a living.
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Reply #4 posted 05/25/04 6:53pm

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Walking home from work today I saw this fellow (he had to be at least 75) with no legs in a wheelchair struggling to push himself along in the driving rain.

Now that guy has a reason to be tormented. Pop stars who can pretty much do whatever they please do not.
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Reply #5 posted 05/25/04 10:14pm

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Some of the replies to this thread seem to imply that money and fame are what should make one happy. Just turn to any history book or work of biographical literature and you can find that many, many artists were so tortured by their craft it drove them mad, into drugs and alcohol, lives of depression, and or suicide.

Being exceptionally "good" at a craft, i.e writing, musicianship, etc. is not necessarily a "gift". While I don't know if Prince is sometimes tormented by his particular gift, I think it is an interesting concept. There are new works (& a few old as well) that discuss the link between genius and madness.
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Reply #6 posted 05/25/04 10:20pm

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Susann209 said:

When I am enjoying the genius of Prince's music, I often wonder just how tormented he is by being a vehicle for it. How unhappy do you think he may be at times? Sometimes I worry about him so much it makes me sad.....


How old are you?
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Reply #7 posted 05/25/04 10:26pm

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I have a feeling he's much less tormented than some Orgers.
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Reply #8 posted 05/25/04 11:19pm

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ultrraviolette said:

Some of the replies to this thread seem to imply that money and fame are what should make one happy. Just turn to any history book or work of biographical literature and you can find that many, many artists were so tortured by their craft it drove them mad, into drugs and alcohol, lives of depression, and or suicide.

Being exceptionally "good" at a craft, i.e writing, musicianship, etc. is not necessarily a "gift". While I don't know if Prince is sometimes tormented by his particular gift, I think it is an interesting concept. There are new works (& a few old as well) that discuss the link between genius and madness.



ITA..you don't have to be an amputee or living on skid row in order to live a tortured live.

That pic of P and Mani in the back of the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology cd, makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something. Yeah, we all know that Prince has always been cavalier about accolades and record sales, because he has always been about doing what he wanted to do. But he is human and there has to be a part of him that gets saddened that the world doesn't appreciate his genius.
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Reply #9 posted 05/25/04 11:49pm

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Supernova said:

I have a feeling he's much less tormented than some Orgers.

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Reply #10 posted 05/26/04 12:36am

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PurpleCharm said:

ultrraviolette said:

Some of the replies to this thread seem to imply that money and fame are what should make one happy. Just turn to any history book or work of biographical literature and you can find that many, many artists were so tortured by their craft it drove them mad, into drugs and alcohol, lives of depression, and or suicide.

Being exceptionally "good" at a craft, i.e writing, musicianship, etc. is not necessarily a "gift". While I don't know if Prince is sometimes tormented by his particular gift, I think it is an interesting concept. There are new works (& a few old as well) that discuss the link between genius and madness.



ITA..you don't have to be an amputee or living on skid row in order to live a tortured live.

That pic of P and Mani in the back on the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something. Yeah, we all know that Prince has always been cavalier about accolades and record sales, because he has always been about doing what he wanted to do. But he is human and there has to be a part of him that gets saddened that the world doesn't appreciate his genius.



Can you post this pic?
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Reply #11 posted 05/26/04 12:51am

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I used to think he was all tortured & shit but now I'm like PLEASE! His life is GREAT! He's crafted the existence he wants & give or take some strife here & there (as we all endure) he's probably very happy right about now (@ least he seems to be, hope he truly is). I hope the happiness I imagine for him is real & sustains - he deserves it. touched
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Reply #12 posted 05/26/04 4:20am

PurpleCharm

meow85 said:

PurpleCharm said:




ITA..you don't have to be an amputee or living on skid row in order to live a tortured live.

That pic of P and Mani in the back on the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something. Yeah, we all know that Prince has always been cavalier about accolades and record sales, because he has always been about doing what he wanted to do. But he is human and there has to be a part of him that gets saddened that the world doesn't appreciate his genius.



Can you post this pic?


Click on this link http://www.prince.org/msg/5/87477. It's the first pic posted in the thread
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Reply #13 posted 05/26/04 4:42am

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PurpleCharm said:

ultrraviolette said:

Some of the replies to this thread seem to imply that money and fame are what should make one happy. Just turn to any history book or work of biographical literature and you can find that many, many artists were so tortured by their craft it drove them mad, into drugs and alcohol, lives of depression, and or suicide.

Being exceptionally "good" at a craft, i.e writing, musicianship, etc. is not necessarily a "gift". While I don't know if Prince is sometimes tormented by his particular gift, I think it is an interesting concept. There are new works (& a few old as well) that discuss the link between genius and madness.



ITA..you don't have to be an amputee or living on skid row in order to live a tortured live.

That pic of P and Mani in the back of the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology cd, makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something. Yeah, we all know that Prince has always been cavalier about accolades and record sales, because he has always been about doing what he wanted to do. But he is human and there has to be a part of him that gets saddened that the world doesn't appreciate his genius.
[This message was edited Wed May 26 4:22:30 2004 by PurpleCharm]


HEY HEY HEY!!!!! WHERE CAN THIS PIC BE FOUND???? OR CAN U PLEASE POST IT????? eek
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Reply #14 posted 05/26/04 4:44am

PurpleCharm

Scandalous69 said:

PurpleCharm said:




ITA..you don't have to be an amputee or living on skid row in order to live a tortured live.

That pic of P and Mani in the back of the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology cd, makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something. Yeah, we all know that Prince has always been cavalier about accolades and record sales, because he has always been about doing what he wanted to do. But he is human and there has to be a part of him that gets saddened that the world doesn't appreciate his genius.
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HEY HEY HEY!!!!! WHERE CAN THIS PIC BE FOUND???? OR CAN U PLEASE POST IT????? eek


http://www.prince.org/msg/5/87477 <-----click here and scroll down.
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Reply #15 posted 05/26/04 4:55am

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PurpleCharm said:

Scandalous69 said:



http://www.prince.org/msg/5/87477 <-----click here and scroll down.



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Reply #16 posted 05/26/04 5:00am

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How tormented is he?

When I am enjoying the genius of Prince's music, I often wonder just how tormented he is by being a vehicle for it. How unhappy do you think he may be at times? Sometimes I worry about him so much it makes me sad.....

i dont think hes more tormented than any other artist.
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Reply #17 posted 05/26/04 5:06am

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PurpleCharm said:

That pic of P and Mani in the back of the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology cd, makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something.





How is he "obviously" worried? confused It's a single moment in time - he could have very well been smiling seconds before the shot was snapped.

If he was sad about anything it's the fact that he couldn't find a way to keep that friggin flap down either! razz Really, you should not waste an ounce of emotion being "sad" about this pic hmm



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[This message was edited Wed May 26 5:08:30 2004 by CalhounSq]
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Reply #18 posted 05/26/04 5:17am

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CalhounSq said:

PurpleCharm said:

That pic of P and Mani in the back of the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology cd, makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something.





How is he "obviously" worried? confused It's a single moment in time - he could have very well been smiling seconds before the shot was snapped.

If he was sad about anything it's the fact that he couldn't find a way to keep that friggin flap down either! razz Really, you should not waste an ounce of emotion being "sad" about this pic hmm



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[This message was edited Wed May 26 5:08:30 2004 by CalhounSq]


Well, that's my interpretation of the shot. If you don't see it that way, then fine, but don't worry about what I do.....you're welcome
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Reply #19 posted 05/26/04 5:24am

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PurpleCharm said:

CalhounSq said:






How is he "obviously" worried? confused It's a single moment in time - he could have very well been smiling seconds before the shot was snapped.

If he was sad about anything it's the fact that he couldn't find a way to keep that friggin flap down either! razz Really, you should not waste an ounce of emotion being "sad" about this pic hmm



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[This message was edited Wed May 26 5:08:30 2004 by CalhounSq]


Well, that's my interpretation of the shot. If you don't see it that way, then fine, but don't worry about what I do.....you're welcome


lol nuts You people...
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Reply #20 posted 05/26/04 5:33am

mzflash

This is a perfect example of how we all see things differently. biggrin

It took me the longest time to actually 'see' what was in this picture. For the first dozen or so times that I saw it, it appeared to me that Prince was resting his head on a big black stuffed bear. For some reason i failed to notice Mani's face. Instead I saw the hair on either side of her face as the ears of the stuffed bear. It looked like the nose of the bear was pushed into the back of Prince's head. eek

No disrespect meant to Mani, this is just the way the picture looked to me when I first saw it. lol
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Reply #21 posted 05/26/04 5:38am

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CalhounSq said:

PurpleCharm said:

That pic of P and Mani in the back of the limo, where his head is on her lap and he is holding the Musicology cd, makes me sad everytime I see it. You can see that he is obviously worried about something.





How is he "obviously" worried? confused It's a single moment in time - he could have very well been smiling seconds before the shot was snapped.

If he was sad about anything it's the fact that he couldn't find a way to keep that friggin flap down either! razz Really, you should not waste an ounce of emotion being "sad" about this pic hmm



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he just looks like hes having a rest and reading the back of the box to me
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Reply #22 posted 05/26/04 6:06am

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Reply #23 posted 05/26/04 7:12am

PurpleCharm

CalhounSq said:

PurpleCharm said:



Well, that's my interpretation of the shot. If you don't see it that way, then fine, but don't worry about what I do.....you're welcome


lol nuts You people...


You're so witty.....NOT

Here you are on a fan site, lusting after a man that you will never have, like many other people on this site and you are going to have the nerve to call someone nuts.....the jokes on you... wink
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Reply #24 posted 05/26/04 7:13am

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mzflash said:

This is a perfect example of how we all see things differently. biggrin



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Reply #25 posted 05/26/04 11:13am

Universaluv

mzflash said:

This is a perfect example of how we all see things differently. biggrin

It took me the longest time to actually 'see' what was in this picture. For the first dozen or so times that I saw it, it appeared to me that Prince was resting his head on a big black stuffed bear. For some reason i failed to notice Mani's face. Instead I saw the hair on either side of her face as the ears of the stuffed bear. It looked like the nose of the bear was pushed into the back of Prince's head. eek

No disrespect meant to Mani, this is just the way the picture looked to me when I first saw it. lol



Oh yeah, if you squint so that you can't make out the features of her face I can see what you're talking about.

Anyway, I don't see that he's obviously worried about anything from that pic. He may be, but that pic doesn't show it.
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Reply #26 posted 05/26/04 12:05pm

PurpleCharm

As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousands word. Everyone will not see things the same way. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Reply #27 posted 05/26/04 1:49pm

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PurpleCharm said:

CalhounSq said:



lol nuts You people...


You're so witty.....NOT

Here you are on a fan site, lusting after a man that you will never have, like many other people on this site and you are going to have the nerve to call someone nuts.....the jokes on you... wink


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Reply #28 posted 05/26/04 3:55pm

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..u know..I'm usually a pretty decent and polite orger but its posts like this that make me wanna live up to my name... [flame snipped -Tom] i worry about U so much it makes me sad..uh..I mean mad...headache

it would probally make prince sad to be you..why worry about prince being sad he is way better off than you and me ...
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Reply #29 posted 05/26/04 8:09pm

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delectable137 said:

roodboi said:

..u know..I'm usually a pretty decent and polite orger but its posts like this that make me wanna live up to my name... [flame snipped -Tom] i worry about U so much it makes me sad..uh..I mean mad...headache

it would probally make prince sad to be you..why worry about prince being sad he is way better off than you and me ...

I had no idea telling some one to get a f-ing grip was flame-worthy...I know I've read worse here...
Also, I am not worried about P, its the girl who needs to get a grip I'm worried about...
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