NWF said: mrdespues said: For the gen-xers I'd say yes. But it's definitely Stevie, for me. Definitely Beck. Also, I'm trying to figure out some more of the new school legends rather than the old school ones. I mean, sure you still got Stevie, Macca, Bowie, U2, Springsteen, Moz (yeah, I threw him in just cuz I love his work ), etc. But what about the relatively new school cats that you'd might compare to Prince? I'll give you Lenny, D'Angelo, Robert Randolph. But I'll also throw in Trey Anastasio, Trent Reznor, Tricky, The Chili Peppers (even if they ain't funky no more), etc. I also said OutKast (and yes, they can and do play instruments) because they're so far ahead of folks in the Hip-Hop game because of their creativity and style. But I don't know if they compare to Prince though. I don't even know if any of these guys I mentioned compare to Prince. And if someone says Alicia Keys, I've got a brick with their name on it. | |
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beck and trent reznor are the closest. also,
u2 , as a whole, have done a pretty good job. i mean, the musical leap from the Joshua Tree to Actung Baby was astounding and far greater than any change in sound/style that Prince has ever attempted and yet, the songs on both albums are so well written. also, you never know how kurt cobain might have turned out. he proved he could put together a bunch of great songs and he was talking about making a 'sgnt. pepper like' leap right before he died. [This message was edited Sun May 30 1:26:46 2004 by chrisslope9] [This message was edited Sun May 30 1:27:27 2004 by chrisslope9] | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: today? as in right now, the present? shiiiiit, he's it. the cat's pretty much one of the last folks standin that are still around that actually keep my attention. he's 2nd in line to al green, in my book.
other n'that, ain't shit else out there now. Hands' - I feel you on this. I go looking for music sometimes, and just wind up going home and putting on some stuff that is 3, 5, 7 or 10 years old. The industry is really sucking right now.... Usher? Please.... The road you choose to walk in this life, is a road that leads to the next..... | |
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Phil Collins is a pretty damn good musician even though he's wasted it on Disney films. Nobody mentioned Robert Smith of the Cure. He's been playin just as long as Prince and he's basically the Cure. THe rest of the band changes and he's the constant. Plus his music is all over the map just like Princes and Smith IMO is an underappreciated guitarist, at least in the U.S. when the melting pot stirs how we gonna take it?
when u can't tell him from her how u gonna fake it? | |
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R kelly is probably the most gifted producer, prince gave him props several years ago.
After his legal troubles he put out chocolate factory, which blew me away and brought the music of sam cooke, al green, curtis mayfield , prince, and stevie wonder together and made my heart and body sing. I know prince is capaable of doing the same thing but he hasn't done it recently, but I know he will eventually, KEEPING HOPE ALIVE. | |
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- Eric clapton to me is one of the most wonderful guitar players out there - I was actually surprised when I saw Prince play a few songs with accoustic guitar on mtv because I didn't know he was that good a guitar player. So Clapton & Prince are in the same league for g-playing.
- Alicia Keys is is ok, but she's not such an accomplished musician in my eyes - frankly i can't think of many musicians, P is really in a league of his own | |
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ultrraviolette said: I Love Rufus also! I like how he always sounds so disinterested ...disinterested but alluringly whiny at the same time. lol | |
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djcreep said: First off, someone said that Madonna was a talented musician? PPPLLLLEEEASSSSSEEEEE.....she is great at marketing.....and that's it. She is pretty bland if you ask me. I'd have to say the most talented musician today, besides Prince is.....DRUMROLL PLEASE.....TOM PETTY.....yes, he rocks!!!!
emm sorry i thought the question was just talented. OK I take Madonna back she;s not an extratalented musician | |
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brante said: i can't believe some of the answers i've seen on here. Were talking about musicians, NOT SINGERS, NOT MOST POPULAR ARTISTS! the topic stated:
"After prince who do you feel is the next most talented musician out there today?" of course before Prince, there was Stevie so that negates the TRUE guy who started it all. musicianship is a very touchy & biased opinion when coming from someone who does not know what TRUE musicianship is about. IMO, after Prince, there was one guy who wasn't that popular but that MF'r plays every instrument in the likeness & vibe of P and wasn't a half bad singer either. I said it again and i'll say it before. Chuckii Booker. If you don't know, then you need to check out his 2 albums and you'll get an idea of what i am saying here. After that, MUSICIAN WISE, it would have to be Lenny Kravitz, Lenny is POPULAR and PLAYS ALL INSTRUMENTS on his CD's. remember the topic folks... "we are saying After prince who do you feel is the next most talented musician out there today?" not most popular, not most succesful writer, not biggest sales.. most talented musician!!!!! not trying to start anything, just my honest opinion, that's all Bran I saw Chuckii Booker open for Janet Jackson on her Rhythm Nation Tour SO WHAT IF WE'RE CONTROLLING ALL THE OIL, IS IT WORTH THE CHILD DYING 4?
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Nuno Bettencourt, John Frusciante, Gilberto Gil, Beck, Lenny Kravitz, Maxwell. -In that particular order. -"If U don't like,
what U see here -get the FUNK out." | |
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I saw Chuckii Booker open for Janet Jackson on her Rhythm Nation Tour[/quote]
I seen that tour too, he's nice the keys but i seen him play bass and guitar with this L.A. funk group called The Flaymes back in the day and i must say, he is way funkier on bass and guitar than he is on keys. | |
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Trent Reznor:
Jason Ferguson from MTV online reviewed The Fragile with some pretty interesting thoughts... Here's a snippet about what he had to say: 'Much in the same way that Prince creates music that is at once accessible and definable, yet only accessible and definable as "Prince music," Reznor has, with Nine Inch Nails, created an entity that is completely independent of anything else on the planet. There are very few artists who have managed to do that: Metallica, Sonic Youth, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd... they all took bits and pieces from various influences, mixed 'em up with their own cockeyed point of view, and wound up with something that dozens of other artists would imitate but never duplicate - in effect, creating their own genre. Reznor has done that as well. And, much in the same way that those artists would continually expand the envelope of their own genre, Reznor has, with The Fragile, exploded the definition of what Nine Inch Nails means.' Sigur Ros: 4 me, they simply redefine the way music is produced, and challenge the way we absorb it, simply beautiful, and unlike anything else out there. | |
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bananacologne said: Trent Reznor:
Jason Ferguson from MTV online reviewed The Fragile with some pretty interesting thoughts... Here's a snippet about what he had to say: 'Much in the same way that Prince creates music that is at once accessible and definable, yet only accessible and definable as "Prince music," Reznor has, with Nine Inch Nails, created an entity that is completely independent of anything else on the planet. There are very few artists who have managed to do that: Metallica, Sonic Youth, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd... they all took bits and pieces from various influences, mixed 'em up with their own cockeyed point of view, and wound up with something that dozens of other artists would imitate but never duplicate - in effect, creating their own genre. Reznor has done that as well. And, much in the same way that those artists would continually expand the envelope of their own genre, Reznor has, with The Fragile, exploded the definition of what Nine Inch Nails means.' beautiful, and unlike anything else out there. ok, i feel you on Trent , Trent is cool and he's an innovator & deserves to be in the top 5 spot for being a tight musician but sonic youth???, pink floyd??? metallica???? as being entities? man.. im outta here. what about Sly Stone? James Brown? Earth,Wind & Fire? Muddy Waters? Little Richard as entities???.J-Ferg can eat a dyQ as well as MTV. im not even going to get into this wh9ole music thing but yes... trent Rez is the cat. | |
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SEAL
Plays instruments and has an incredible voice. When produced intimate and dry it can blow u away. Hasn't really ever fulfilled his potential. | |
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Do I miss something here? To my knowledge Prince is still doing funky music. I'm amazed that nobody mentioned Bootsy Collins, Fishbone, Joe sample, mandrill, herbie hancock... Any true funk lover could list a full page before even thinking about Madonna or Lenny Kravitz. | |
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squirrelgrease said: Tito Jackson.
No, Jermaine is da best | |
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julien said: Do I miss something here? To my knowledge Prince is still doing funky music. I'm amazed that nobody mentioned Bootsy Collins, Fishbone, Joe sample, mandrill, herbie hancock... Any true funk lover could list a full page before even thinking about Madonna or Lenny Kravitz.
OK. George Clinton, but i still DIG Lenny | |
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BEN HARPER | |
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Oh, Ben Harper, yesss!! co-sign
And definitely good old Lionel Richie... But seriously - BECK!!! BECK!!!! BECK!!!!! IT AIN'T ABOUT THE TRIPPIN' BUT THE SEXUALITY, TURN IT UP!!! | |
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Radiohead! - They're fucking good atm, only other musician(s) I listen to regularly. | |
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Ben Harper, Jack White (from the White Stripes) and Andre 3000 are definitely some of the more talented AND popular musicians of the 2000's. Everyone knows someone who is megatalented in their home town/indie label/ opened for someone, but as far as popular, those 3 are the most talented behind Jamie Starr
Tori Amos is one of my favs and I guess she's up there as far as pure talent, too. I saw her tour and she was jammin on two pianos AND singing for a few measures. The whole crowd stopped in awe. Lenny? Absolutely not that talented. Best rip-off artist since Oasis. Madonna? Entertaining. Can dance. Musician-wise? She looked quite impressed with herself while playing 3 chords on an acoustic during that Drown The World show a few years back. | |
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I think the problem with this thread is that no perameters were placed on what constitutes "the next most talented musician," so everyone is just going with personal favorites.
Which of Prince's qualities are we looking to find a second-best for? Songwriting skills? Ability to play a particular instrument or a number of instuments well (as Prince does)? Output of music? Consistency of quality? The whole enchilada? The reason I love Prince is because I feel like he's the ONLY ONE doing his thing. I would have to defer to a LIST of people who match Prince, and the sum of those parts would equal Prince's whole. One thing that WAS defined here was "out there today," but some of us are disregarding that. Paul McCartney is one of my favorite human beings who has ever set foot on planet Earth, but he is only "out there today" in terms of the fact that he is LIVING. Yeah, he's still making music, but he's certainly not doing anything different with it. So what does all of this mean? What if it means that there is no Prince-like up-and-comer? You've got Ani DiFranco doing the whole independent/internet business thing...you've got D'Angelo and Maxwell doing great, modern Prince imitations, you've got R. Kelly matching Prince's knack for tuneful songwriting, you've got guys like Rufus Wainwright combining more than one but not all of Prince's skills (in Rufus's case, he's got beautiful songwriting, identity, piano playing, lush arrangements). Then throw in Ben Folds (clever lyrics, great piano), Lenny (who I don't agree belongs here because he's SO derivative, but then Prince can be, too, and Lenny can play his guitar, I guess). Somebody, convince me! I LOVE U2 and Radiohead and Coldplay and many of the artists I've mentioned here and many that you've mentioned. But who's doing what Prince does? Anyone? Convince me! I'll be a big fan! Keith/Kacey | |
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IceTen said: Bjork MIGHT be up there except she doesn't play any instrument (although she can write notation so that sort of makes it okay). Bjork plays piano (and quite well, from what I've seen), and I'm pretty sure I've read that she plays violin or cello as well...I just think she's more into making music than showing off her chops. | |
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chrisslope9 said: beck and trent reznor are the closest. also,
u2 , as a whole, have done a pretty good job. i mean, the musical leap from the Joshua Tree to Actung Baby was astounding and far greater than any change in sound/style that Prince has ever attempted and yet, the songs on both albums are so well written. also, you never know how kurt cobain might have turned out. he proved he could put together a bunch of great songs and he was talking about making a 'sgnt. pepper like' leap right before he died. [This message was edited Sun May 30 1:26:46 2004 by chrisslope9] [This message was edited Sun May 30 1:27:27 2004 by chrisslope9] U2 is awesome, they change musical styles like they change underwear. ...:...Must I become naked?
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churchbruva said: bananacologne said: Trent Reznor:
Jason Ferguson from MTV online reviewed The Fragile with some pretty interesting thoughts... Here's a snippet about what he had to say: 'Much in the same way that Prince creates music that is at once accessible and definable, yet only accessible and definable as "Prince music," Reznor has, with Nine Inch Nails, created an entity that is completely independent of anything else on the planet. There are very few artists who have managed to do that: Metallica, Sonic Youth, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd... they all took bits and pieces from various influences, mixed 'em up with their own cockeyed point of view, and wound up with something that dozens of other artists would imitate but never duplicate - in effect, creating their own genre. Reznor has done that as well. And, much in the same way that those artists would continually expand the envelope of their own genre, Reznor has, with The Fragile, exploded the definition of what Nine Inch Nails means.' beautiful, and unlike anything else out there. ok, i feel you on Trent , Trent is cool and he's an innovator & deserves to be in the top 5 spot for being a tight musician but sonic youth???, pink floyd??? metallica???? as being entities? man.. im outta here. what about Sly Stone? James Brown? Earth,Wind & Fire? Muddy Waters? Little Richard as entities???.J-Ferg can eat a dyQ as well as MTV. im not even going to get into this wh9ole music thing but yes... trent Rez is the cat. Holy crap - take a chill pill!!! I didnt write it, someone else did 4 Christ's sake! | |
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"So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
RIAA 'nuff said. | |
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First of all, I don't put Prince at the top of the list, so I'm ignoring the "after Prince" qualifying statement. Without going too deeply into jazz & classical artists, here's a SOMEWHAT recognizable list off the top of my head.
multi-instrumentalists: Stevie Wonder Stanley Clarke Marcus Miller David Ryan Harris Tony MacAlpine Terrance Blanchard Eric Gales Stokely (from Mint Condition) Raphael Saddiq D'Angelo Charlie Singleton (from Cameo) Jesse Johnson Chuckii Booker Jane Child Joe John Jon (from Silk) Sananda (TTD) Rick James, bitch! Van Hunt Trent Reznor Teena Marie talented musicians: Robert Randolph Dallas Austin Big John Harris (works with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis) Stanley Jordan | |
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"theres only one prince" One of the best days of my life... http://prince.org/msg/100/291111
love is a gift an artist with no fans is really just a man with a hobby.... | |
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nakedpianoplayer said: "theres only one prince"
What does that have to do with this thread? | |
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