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Thread started 05/26/04 4:58am

CalhounSq

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Prince: the fake instrument years

I'm sitting here listening to "I Can't Make You Love Me" (Bonnie's version) & I'm thinking... Prince could have kicked the SHIT outta this song!!

WHY in the hell did he redo such a GREAT song w/ his casio keyboard??? sad

What a waste! mad I blame Mayte! razz
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Reply #1 posted 05/26/04 7:45am

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HI CALHOUN!

POOK NOT KNOW ANSWER TO THIS

BUT THINK ABOUT IT REAL HARD!

SOON AS POOK HEAR SONG SOMEDAY

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Reply #2 posted 05/26/04 7:58am

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I like it, actually. One of my faves off that set. But, yeah, that's not saying too much. He coulda killed it--and many other "Emancipation" tracks--if he'd gotten rid of the programmed dreck.
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Reply #3 posted 05/26/04 9:51am

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I love his version of the song, epsecially the speaking part at the end... muy sexy ! drool3 one of my fave P songs.
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Reply #4 posted 05/26/04 12:16pm

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Personally, I think all his covers on Emancipation are lackluster.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #5 posted 05/26/04 12:18pm

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Most of his covers are unusually horrible, but this one is awesome. I love this song, I don't care about real instrumentation when it comes to it.
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Reply #6 posted 05/26/04 1:44pm

CalhounSq

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POOK said:


HI CALHOUN!

POOK NOT KNOW ANSWER TO THIS

BUT THINK ABOUT IT REAL HARD!

SOON AS POOK HEAR SONG SOMEDAY


Somebody get this song to Pook immediately!! biggrin
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Reply #7 posted 05/26/04 1:46pm

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MendesCity said:

I like it, actually. One of my faves off that set. But, yeah, that's not saying too much. He coulda killed it--and many other "Emancipation" tracks--if he'd gotten rid of the programmed dreck.


I'm not saying his version sucks nuts or anything - I actually like it too smile BUT I know how much better it could have been if he recorded it, say, NOW (or anytime in the past 3 years or so)... w/ real music for real musicians & whatnot nod Think about it - it's an amazing song & done RIGHT w/ PRINCE singing it??? disbelief touched


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[This message was edited Wed May 26 13:46:28 2004 by CalhounSq]
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Reply #8 posted 05/26/04 3:40pm

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CalhounSq said:

MendesCity said:

I like it, actually. One of my faves off that set. But, yeah, that's not saying too much. He coulda killed it--and many other "Emancipation" tracks--if he'd gotten rid of the programmed dreck.


I'm not saying his version sucks nuts or anything - I actually like it too smile BUT I know how much better it could have been if he recorded it, say, NOW (or anytime in the past 3 years or so)... w/ real music for real musicians & whatnot nod Think about it - it's an amazing song & done RIGHT w/ PRINCE singing it??? disbelief touched


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[This message was edited Wed May 26 13:46:28 2004 by CalhounSq]


another case for ousourcing/sharing production
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Reply #9 posted 05/26/04 4:01pm

GrayKing

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CalhounSq said:

I'm sitting here listening to "I Can't Make You Love Me" (Bonnie's version) & I'm thinking... Prince could have kicked the SHIT outta this song!!

WHY in the hell did he redo such a GREAT song w/ his casio keyboard??? sad

What a waste! mad I blame Mayte! razz




I agree. I'll never forgive him for the hatchett job he did on this song sad One of my all time favorites butchered by one of my all time favorites. For conrasting purposes, listen to George Michael's version. They were done at roughly the same time. His sounds fresh, but stays true to the original, and it's miles ahead of Prince's. Bonnie's is still my favorite though.
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Reply #10 posted 05/26/04 4:47pm

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CalhounSq said:

I'm sitting here listening to "I Can't Make You Love Me" (Bonnie's version) & I'm thinking... Prince could have kicked the SHIT outta this song!!

WHY in the hell did he redo such a GREAT song w/ his casio keyboard??? sad

What a waste! mad I blame Mayte! razz



I don't blame Mayte. Who could? The woman flipped quarters on her tummy, fer cryin' out loud! wink

But, you're right. Prince could've laid a real drum set track, wheeled out a real piano and mixed the song better so that it had the ROOM it deserves. I think he went the cheap-n-cheesy route to minimize comparisons to Bonnie's masterful version. Bruce Hornsby he ain't, baby. But, he could've torn it up.
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Reply #11 posted 05/26/04 5:24pm

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GrayKing said:

CalhounSq said:

I'm sitting here listening to "I Can't Make You Love Me" (Bonnie's version) & I'm thinking... Prince could have kicked the SHIT outta this song!!

WHY in the hell did he redo such a GREAT song w/ his casio keyboard??? sad

What a waste! mad I blame Mayte! razz




I agree. I'll never forgive him for the hatchett job he did on this song sad One of my all time favorites butchered by one of my all time favorites. For conrasting purposes, listen to George Michael's version. They were done at roughly the same time. His sounds fresh, but stays true to the original, and it's miles ahead of Prince's. Bonnie's is still my favorite though.


I'm looking online - where can I find George Michael's version? confused
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Reply #12 posted 05/26/04 5:36pm

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CalhounSq said:

GrayKing said:





I agree. I'll never forgive him for the hatchett job he did on this song sad One of my all time favorites butchered by one of my all time favorites. For conrasting purposes, listen to George Michael's version. They were done at roughly the same time. His sounds fresh, but stays true to the original, and it's miles ahead of Prince's. Bonnie's is still my favorite though.


I'm looking online - where can I find George Michael's version? confused



hmmmm hmmm i know he did it on his unplugged. and it was a b-side. oh! yeah! it was on his 2-cd best of from 1998.... the US version anyway. not sure about the UK version.
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Reply #13 posted 05/26/04 5:38pm

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God, that version is boring. The only boring Prince ballad.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #14 posted 05/26/04 5:50pm

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GrayKing said:

CalhounSq said:



I'm looking online - where can I find George Michael's version? confused



hmmmm hmmm i know he did it on his unplugged. and it was a b-side. oh! yeah! it was on his 2-cd best of from 1998.... the US version anyway. not sure about the UK version.


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Reply #15 posted 05/26/04 6:25pm

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CalhounSq said:


WHY in the hell did he redo such a GREAT song w/ his casio keyboard??? sad
What a waste! mad I blame Mayte! razz



no, blame kirky j or whatever the hell the dancing fools name was. his beats were weak!

the fact that prince was between bands probably has alot to do with it too.
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Reply #16 posted 05/26/04 6:29pm

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Jhasten said:

CalhounSq said:


WHY in the hell did he redo such a GREAT song w/ his casio keyboard??? sad
What a waste! mad I blame Mayte! razz



no, blame kirky j or whatever the hell the dancing fools name was. his beats were weak!

the fact that prince was between bands probably has alot to do with it too.




the problem is, he WASN'T between bands when the bulk of the Emancipation sessions were done. obviously, though, the stuff he chose to put on the album was the more solo-centered work.


this album would have been much better with the 93-96 era NPG playing on most of the tracks. Kirky J as a one-man substitute is what drags most of it down, you're right.
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Reply #17 posted 05/26/04 6:49pm

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Supernova said:

Personally, I think all his covers on Emancipation are lackluster.



hell nah, he TORE UP La La Means I Love You, WOOOH! nod that was dope!
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Reply #18 posted 05/26/04 7:03pm

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Supernova said:

Personally, I think all his covers on Emancipation are lackluster.



i really like his One Of Us nod
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Reply #19 posted 05/26/04 7:45pm

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GrayKing said:

Supernova said:

Personally, I think all his covers on Emancipation are lackluster.



i really like his One Of Us nod


I think that was the one exception nod
and Betcha By Golly Wow reeked of cheese but it wasn't so bad.
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Reply #20 posted 05/26/04 7:47pm

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CalhounSq said:

WHY in the hell did he redo such a GREAT song w/ his casio keyboard??? sad

What a waste! mad I blame Mayte! razz


My sentiments too. But I blame Kirk "Kirky J" Johnson... that bastid.
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Reply #21 posted 05/26/04 7:51pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Supernova said:

Personally, I think all his covers on Emancipation are lackluster.



hell nah, he TORE UP La La Means I Love You, WOOOH! nod that was dope!

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Reply #22 posted 05/26/04 7:59pm

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What's this nonsense about Prince screwing up remakes???

Betcha Bye Golly Wow! ~ thumbs up! way up!
La, La, La, Means I Love You ~ thumbs up! way up!
One of Us ~ thumbs up! way up!
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Reply #23 posted 05/26/04 9:09pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Supernova said:

Personally, I think all his covers on Emancipation are lackluster.



hell nah, he TORE UP La La Means I Love You, WOOOH! nod that was dope!


I wouldn't say he tore it up (he ain't no Jackson 5 now lol ) but it's alright smile
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Reply #24 posted 05/26/04 10:34pm

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I agree that he could have done better. And I, too, blame Kirky J.

I also must second the recommendation that you listen to George Michael's version of the song. Far superior to Prince's.
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Reply #25 posted 05/26/04 11:25pm

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Revolution said:

What's this nonsense about Prince screwing up remakes???

Betcha Bye Golly Wow! ~ thumbs up! way up!
La, La, La, Means I Love You ~ thumbs up! way up!
One of Us ~ thumbs up! way up!



I Can't Make You Love Me shake
Everyday Is A Winding Road shake
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Reply #26 posted 05/26/04 11:29pm

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todd305 said:

I agree that he could have done better. And I, too, blame Kirky J.

I also must second the recommendation that you listen to George Michael's version of the song. Far superior to Prince's.


Oooh, let me add a 3rd voice to that recommendation. GM does a terrific job with that song. It's a truly beautiful rendition. I always felt like Prince didn't quite "get" that song with the whole lame bed/church addition.
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Reply #27 posted 05/27/04 12:15am

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I don't have a problem with "fake instruments", but they can be used right, and used wrong, just like "real instruments".
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Reply #28 posted 05/27/04 1:45am

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"Bruce Hornsby he ain't, baby. But, he could've torn it up".

I'm gonna defend Prince here. Even though on another thread people are getting defensive.

Prince is Bruce Hornsby x 10. Remember, his pops was a very talented jazz musician, which is where Prince gets his stuff. If you don't think Prince could tear Bruce H. up, I suggest you check out some concert footage of him on the piano messing around. Problem is, Prince doesn't show this side of him off, but when he does you aren't going to forget it.
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Reply #29 posted 05/27/04 1:50am

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U can say what u want about this period.. but Holy River is something I hold closely.. He did a wonderful job on it...
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