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bfletcher said: Cinnamon Girl is possibly the worst song Prince has written, It's awful in my opinion, down there with Cherry Cherry on NPS
 - I dont understand....this song is a smooth rock that fits perfectly in his 80s output. Just like ´I could never take the place´, but less interesting. I am not saying CG is a masterpiece, but Prince always recorded this kind of smooth rock. |
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hey Cherry Cherry is CLASSIC!! | |
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phunkymunky said: I reckon he must be bored of this album and has another one to release. There' s no other reason for releasing Cinnamon Girl with it's strikingly shit lyrics and 80s production.
If he had half a brain, illusion, coma, pimp & circumstance would be the next single. oh well. First of all, its not his choice which songs are released. It's according to demand or popular choice. and what people like in europe is different from the states. I would expect cinnamon girl to be big in the UK. I dont think pimp & circumstance will ever be a single any where. | |
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mommie said: phunkymunky said: I reckon he must be bored of this album and has another one to release. There' s no other reason for releasing Cinnamon Girl with it's strikingly shit lyrics and 80s production.
If he had half a brain, illusion, coma, pimp & circumstance would be the next single. oh well. First of all, its not his choice which songs are released. It's according to demand or popular choice. and what people like in europe is different from the states. I would expect cinnamon girl to be big in the UK. I dont think pimp & circumstance will ever be a single any where. Oh please. In the past he may not have had much choice, but I would be very surprised if choosing the next single was taken out of his hands completely on this project. I live in London and I don't see Cinnamon Girl doing well in the charts here at all. A Million days, ICP&C and Reflection are all better songs and would all do better in the charts. |
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TheNewPowerMan said: It seems, that "Cinnamon Girl" will be the new 7" in the UK. Release-date: 21.06.2004
Look at "www.amazon.de". You can already order there this new single. Peace & B Wild! The New Power Man Great news! | |
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phunkymunky said: A Million days, ICP&C and Reflection are all better songs and would all do better in the charts.
A Million Days would probably do quite well. Reflection is a great song (my fave on the album) but I doubt that or ICP&C would hit. | |
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Starmist7 said: sataninas said: Couldn't you use another expression as "infectieus"?
No...I used it because I happen to like that part very much... 
[This message was edited Tue May 25 17:27:39 2004 by Starmist7] I don't see the logic. An infection isn't so positive and you say you like the song! It is NOT NICE to be infected from X a bicho raro!! | |
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phunkymunky said: I reckon he must be bored of this album and has another one to release. There' s no other reason for releasing Cinnamon Girl with it's strikingly shit lyrics and 80s production.
If he had half a brain, illusion, coma, pimp & circumstance would be the next single. oh well. No way - ICPC is a no-go as a single. Would never ever get airplay... Much smarter to cater to the current 80s-revival. Remember: singles are not a showcase for musical talent (at least not if you have proven it a million times anyway as Prince has), but to push an album... And CG with its little infectous groove could well be played on the radio, and thus draw attention to the album (where some people then might be shocked by "non-standard fare" such as ICPC...) CG is a little pop gem, such as Cream or D&P was...  |
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Krid said: phunkymunky said: I reckon he must be bored of this album and has another one to release. There' s no other reason for releasing Cinnamon Girl with it's strikingly shit lyrics and 80s production.
If he had half a brain, illusion, coma, pimp & circumstance would be the next single. oh well. No way - ICPC is a no-go as a single. Would never ever get airplay... Much smarter to cater to the current 80s-revival. Remember: singles are not a showcase for musical talent (at least not if you have proven it a million times anyway as Prince has), but to push an album... And CG with its little infectous groove could well be played on the radio, and thus draw attention to the album (where some people then might be shocked by "non-standard fare" such as ICPC...) CG is a little pop gem, such as Cream or D&P was... - Agreed. CG is a pop song very catchy, like Cream. The song ´Musicology´ isn´t IMO. I loooove ICPC, but I doubt it would be a hit....maybe after CG.... Singles have nothing to do with complexity or showing musicianship (although CG´s guitar solo is great). But they are needed to sell an album, so I think CG is an appropriate song. |
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GustavoRibas said: Krid said: No way - ICPC is a no-go as a single. Would never ever get airplay... Much smarter to cater to the current 80s-revival. Remember: singles are not a showcase for musical talent (at least not if you have proven it a million times anyway as Prince has), but to push an album... And CG with its little infectous groove could well be played on the radio, and thus draw attention to the album (where some people then might be shocked by "non-standard fare" such as ICPC...) CG is a little pop gem, such as Cream or D&P was... - Agreed. CG is a pop song very catchy, like Cream. The song ´Musicology´ isn´t IMO. I loooove ICPC, but I doubt it would be a hit....maybe after CG.... Singles have nothing to do with complexity or showing musicianship (although CG´s guitar solo is great). But they are needed to sell an album, so I think CG is an appropriate song. I still think that ICP&C would be a decent single. Just because it doesn't have some sing-a-long chorus to it, doesn't mean it wouldn't be a hit. Just look at the Neptunes or Missy/Timbaland. |
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"Cinnamon Girl" would make a fine single. | |
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This tune is absolute crap. I live in the UK and it hasn't got a hope of even charting!!! Talk about cheese. Some are saying it follows on from where Raspberry Berry left off. What a bag of shite.  If I were anything else, i'd be the water in your bath.... | |
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NOOOOO!!!!!
This is it. Just the news i was dreading. The cheesy, sickly, awful, corny melody of Cinnamon Girl combined with it's heartfelt but nevertheless middle of the road lyrics will KILL any credibility that Musicology is grasping on to. It is f*cking awful. Those who have read my posts will know i'm no lover of the recent album effort. But I did recognise a buzz with Musicology the song. My 'anti-prince' friends loved it and started to get a feel for how funky the man can be. I told them "see... he can really tear it up, u guys just remember all the corny rubbish like The Most Beautiful Girl etc..." Alas even after making a great video for Musicology Sony pull it in the UK. And now we get Cinnamon Girl? Either Sony or Prince have lost there mind. I can hear my friends now lughing at it on the radio... just as they did when i played it 2 them. Some of u may thin... who the hell cares about your Prince hating friends? But this is the audience he is trying to reach with Musicology. This is a piss poor decision and a terrible advertisement for a pretty bad album. In fact it highlights one of the (if not THE) lowest point on the album. The song is just naff. Music like beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Well if the song Musicology is Carmen Electra, Cinnamon Girl is Barbara Cartland with less make up. What is Sonys 'main' problem? . . . . [This message was edited Wed May 26 7:12:34 2004 by nuthinbuttamuffin] ----------
AND I GOTTA ALOTTA BUTTA 2 GO! | |
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psykosoul said: PurpleKnight said: [color=mediumpurple:0fe5549b94]Ah okay, so it's just the next single for the UK. Well, good move I guess, but ICPC is ten times stronger as a single. Why? One word: Chorus. ICPC's chorus is catchy as all hell, and Cinnamon's is not.[/color]
[This message was edited Tue May 25 10:54:22 2004 by PurpleKnight] But the production of ICPC is so ... 1992. I'm having such a hard time digesting this one. Lyrically it's kinda clever, but I don't see mainstream digesting it either...not from Prince at least. I agree. We are feel icpc but on a large scale people will not be feeling that . | |
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nuthinbuttamuffin said: NOOOOO!!!!!
This is it. Just the news i was dreading. The cheesy, sickly, awful, corny melody of Cinnamon Girl combined with it's heartfelt but nevertheless middle of the road lyrics will KILL any credibility that Musicology is grasping on to. It is f*cking awful. Those who have read my posts will know i'm no lover of the recent album effort. But I did recognise a buzz with Musicology the song. My 'anti-prince' friends loved it and started to get a feel for how funky the man can be. I told them "see... he can really tear it up, u guys just remember all the corny rubbish like The Most Beautiful Girl etc..." Alas even after making a great video for Musicology Sony pull it in the UK. And now we get Cinnamon Girl? Either Sony or Prince have lost there mind. I can hear my friends now lughing at it on the radio... just as they did when i played it 2 them. Some of u may thin... who the hell cares about your Prince hating friends? But this is the audience he is trying to reach with Musicology. This is a piss poor decision and a terrible advertisement for a pretty bad album. In fact it highlights one of the (if not THE) lowest point on the album. The song is just naff. Music like beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Well if the song Musicology is Carmen Electra, Cinnamon Girl is Barbara Cartland with less make up. What is Sonys 'main' problem? . . . . [This message was edited Wed May 26 7:12:34 2004 by nuthinbuttamuffin] - well I agree with you that the song ´Musicology´ is funky, has cool lyrics and a great video. But was it catchy enough to sell thousand copies at its own right? I dont think so. The album is only number 3 at Billboard because the album is given at concerts, not because the song was a hit. CG is kind of cheesy but catchy I think it would be time for us/Prince to decide what is the main goal.....credibility or hits? If it is credibility, the TRC album was much better, if Prince wanted to reach a more mature audience a la Clapton/Sting fans. Or maybe songs like ´Musicology´ and ´Dear Mr Man´....but if he wants the regular audience to join, he should choose the more catchy ones. Judging from the Musicology album, I think he is trying to reach the general audiences. |
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Cinnamon Girl is catchy and a nice pop offering that is easy for the public to digest. ICPAC wouldn't work as a single. I wish IIWTMIYL was just a minute longer then that song would tear up the airways! | |
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I dont know why anyone..Sony? Prince?..... thinks Cinnamon girl is a good choice for the UK. Why are we having poop foisted onto us? Musicology was a better single yet that got withdrawn....
Londoners, at least the ones I know, do not like cheesy prince. They like funky Prince. | |
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Sorcha said: I dont know why anyone..Sony? Prince?..... thinks Cinnamon girl is a good choice for the UK. Why are we having poop foisted onto us? Musicology was a better single yet that got withdrawn....
Londoners, at least the ones I know, do not like cheesy prince. They like funky Prince. exactly |
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Cinnamon Girl is the marketing department choice. Taken in context of the current political climate it makes perfect sense. However, as an anti-war, or a commentary on war it is pretty lane and embarrassing on par with American Life by Madonna, and Shoot the Dog by George Micheal.
There is no substance to this song, considering the horrors that we are witnessing, quite frankly I think it is damn right insulting. If as some say Prince or Sony are trying to reach the single buying public they are sadly deluding themselves. If there is a Prince Song that is appropiate and can be seen as reflecting what is going on it has to be Track Eight from the Crucial Album, (sorry don't know the name) But this song reflects the comic tradegy of what is going on, a song that makes me feel guilty, uncomfortable, because the lyrics are so poignant yet they are set to a great dance beat which is where the uncomfortable part comes in. It is a song that makes one feel like dancing, but when you hear the lyrics you question whether you should be dancing to it. The best that can be achieved by releasing this single is given the Album a slight boost. From all the review I have read Reflection and Dear Mr Man, What Do U Want me 2 do all better choices as a single. |
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Track eight I think is called Welcome to the rat race, anyway I don't know if i should mention this Album as it is not an official release |
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thank goodness! this song is screaming to be a summer jam. it will get play on top 40, classic rock (which it is already being played on here in chicago), and adult contemporary. this song is an instant crossover hit. | |
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sataninas said: Starmist7 said: No...I used it because I happen to like that part very much...
[This message was edited Tue May 25 17:27:39 2004 by Starmist7] I don't see the logic. An infection isn't so positive and you say you like the song! It is NOT NICE to be infected from X a bicho raro!! It's an expression I hardly like to use myself...let's just say AGAIN that I just happen to like and hear that part over & over, the guitar playing at the end is my favorite part of the song (Cinnamon Girl). [This message was edited Wed May 26 12:46:52 2004 by Starmist7] | |
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Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance is pretty cool, but the catchiest part of it is the "Sex" sample from 1989 (remember the "Scandalous" maxisingle). Either that's a direct sample, or it's a close imitation. |
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positivity88 said: Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance is pretty cool, but the catchiest part of it is the "Sex" sample from 1989 (remember the "Scandalous" maxisingle). Either that's a direct sample, or it's a close imitation.
- It is indeed cool. If well promoted, could make people dance. The rythm guitar is fantastic. |
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What's wrong with a song sounding like it was from the 80's? I like cinnamon girl. It's a nice, catchy song. It's one of the songs that stood out the first time I listened to the album. Kinda like how "7" stood out for me when I heard the symbol album for the first time. Many singles over the years have been released that maybe haven't been lyricaly the best. | |
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positivity88 said: Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance is pretty cool, but the catchiest part of it is the "Sex" sample from 1989 (remember the "Scandalous" maxisingle). Either that's a direct sample, or it's a close imitation.
which bit is the sample. i got the scandalous sex suite recently and as soon as i heard sex i thought of illusion coma... i just felt it was a close imitation. i actually wondered if he did it after requesting the boots and SSS was one of them. you know, like he listened through the cds, heard the sound he had used and liked it and wrote illusion coma | |
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Starmist7 said: sataninas said: I don't see the logic. An infection isn't so positive and you say you like the song! It is NOT NICE to be infected from X a bicho raro!! It's an expression I hardly like to use myself...let's just say AGAIN that I just happen to like and hear that part over & over, the guitar playing at the end is my favorite part of the song (Cinnamon Girl). [This message was edited Wed May 26 12:46:52 2004 by Starmist7] NO RESPECT! | |
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softandwet said: positivity88 said: Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance is pretty cool, but the catchiest part of it is the "Sex" sample from 1989 (remember the "Scandalous" maxisingle). Either that's a direct sample, or it's a close imitation.
which bit is the sample. i got the scandalous sex suite recently and as soon as i heard sex i thought of illusion coma... i just felt it was a close imitation. i actually wondered if he did it after requesting the boots and SSS was one of them. you know, like he listened through the cds, heard the sound he had used and liked it and wrote illusion coma And I always thought the SSS was a legitimate release... Got it on vinyl and later on CD... |
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Krid said: And I always thought the SSS was a legitimate release... Got it on vinyl and later on CD... - It is...I have it on Cd too.... |
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