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Thread started 05/20/04 6:21am

tangeypeaches

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Judas Smile

I was wondering if any1 has ever heard this song by Prince and what they think of it smile has this song been on ny albumn at all?

I was just wondering that's all smile
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Reply #1 posted 05/20/04 6:29am

polkadotsuit

It's on The Chocolate Invasion which is available to download at npgmusicclub. I've not heard it though sad
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Reply #2 posted 05/20/04 6:58am

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Yeah! The song is great IMO. Remember when NPGMC was promoting The Chocolate Invasion? You logged on and the music started playing..."THe Chocolate Invasion starts here..." well that's the second part of Judas Smile. The first half of the song has a similar groove. The song sounds like Prince havin' fun sayin' what he wants to say.

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Reply #3 posted 05/20/04 7:36am

tangeypeaches

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What xactley is The Chocolate Invasion I've never heard it b4 is it an albumn or something?


smile Another part of my lil Judas Smile thread smile
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Reply #4 posted 05/20/04 7:51am

LovesexyIsThe1

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This song was available for NPG music club members to download a couple of years back. It has now been compiled with other downloads available at the time (2001), and is downloadable with the NPGMC album, Chocolate Invasion.

The track is SLAMMING, probably one of the best from that year.
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Reply #5 posted 05/20/04 9:21am

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Kind of interesting that he originally named it JUDAS KISS but about a month or two (in September/October 2001) the title changed to JUDAS SMILE.

Regardless, a pretty slamming track. The Chocolate Invasion vibe has been kicking since late summer 2001 in the states, right before the release of The Rainbow Children.
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Reply #6 posted 05/20/04 11:58am

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tangeypeaches said:

What xactley is The Chocolate Invasion I've never heard it b4 is it an albumn or something?


smile Another part of my lil Judas Smile thread smile


What it was supposed to be: a 7 disk set for retail that would consist of NPGMC trax (2 disks), C-Note, Expectation, The War, A mixed CD of some sort (Glam Slam Mix), and one more…I think News or something.

Like many announcements/ideas P has had, this one also went by the way-side. Instead he opened up the NPGMC Store and there you can find downloadable versions of most of this stuff. IMO, it probably cost too much and it would have been for the hard core only, who’d shell out the $$$ to have this stuff on CD.

What it is now: The Chocolate Invasion is one of 2 “albums” you can download off of his site…it contains some of the NPGMC trax plus a new song “the dance”. It was released at the same time as Musicology along with the other internet “album” the Slaughterhouse…which also consists of NPGMC trax.

You will find round here on the org…that for some of us, who hadn’t heard this music praise the hell out of it. I happen to think that both of these blow Musicology away. IMO these are for the following fans and Musicology is for the casual fans. Others, who have been members already had this music a while ago and consider TCI and Slaughterhouse to be just hodge-podge comps of previous releases form the club and though the music is good, don’t really consider it to be anything special. I am surprised that given all of the publicity, there has been no mention of these 2 in the press…but I doubt anyone in the press went to the site and checked it out.

Personally, I think Judas Smile is one of his best in a long time. Then again I like the denser stuff…songs that have are complicated in structure and that even change completely in the middle. All of the imagery, special effects, background vocals etc. And that he changes key when singing throughout. It’s great.

If you consider yourself a fan, I HIGHLY recommend purchasing The Chocolate Invasion & Slaughterhouse. Very Much worth the price.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #7 posted 05/20/04 12:02pm

Kacey725

I agree with superspaceboy...I think "Judas..." is one of his better songs from recent years, and it's definitely my favorite track on THE CHOCOLATE INVASION.

Don't mistake these online albums for bootlegs...GET THEM!!! Ha ha ha!

Keith/Kacey
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Reply #8 posted 05/20/04 12:14pm

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Leanne, are you sure you are a fan?..lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #9 posted 05/20/04 1:25pm

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This song is proof that Prince has been influenced by Michael Jackson. This track sounds a helluva lot like MJ's "Too Bad", which preceeded Prince's interplotation. Its like Prince listened to "Too Bad" and princified it. Just an observation.
[This message was edited Thu May 20 13:27:38 2004 by BlaqueKnight]
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Reply #10 posted 05/20/04 3:56pm

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superspaceboy said:

tangeypeaches said:

What xactley is The Chocolate Invasion I've never heard it b4 is it an albumn or something?


smile Another part of my lil Judas Smile thread smile


What it was supposed to be: a 7 disk set for retail that would consist of NPGMC trax (2 disks), C-Note, Expectation, The War, A mixed CD of some sort (Glam Slam Mix), and one more…I think News or something.

Like many announcements/ideas P has had, this one also went by the way-side. Instead he opened up the NPGMC Store and there you can find downloadable versions of most of this stuff. IMO, it probably cost too much and it would have been for the hard core only, who’d shell out the $$$ to have this stuff on CD.

What it is now: The Chocolate Invasion is one of 2 “albums” you can download off of his site…it contains some of the NPGMC trax plus a new song “the dance”. It was released at the same time as Musicology along with the other internet “album” the Slaughterhouse…which also consists of NPGMC trax.

You will find round here on the org…that for some of us, who hadn’t heard this music praise the hell out of it. I happen to think that both of these blow Musicology away. IMO these are for the following fans and Musicology is for the casual fans. Others, who have been members already had this music a while ago and consider TCI and Slaughterhouse to be just hodge-podge comps of previous releases form the club and though the music is good, don’t really consider it to be anything special. I am surprised that given all of the publicity, there has been no mention of these 2 in the press…but I doubt anyone in the press went to the site and checked it out.

Personally, I think Judas Smile is one of his best in a long time. Then again I like the denser stuff…songs that have are complicated in structure and that even change completely in the middle. All of the imagery, special effects, background vocals etc. And that he changes key when singing throughout. It’s great.

If you consider yourself a fan, I HIGHLY recommend purchasing The Chocolate Invasion & Slaughterhouse. Very Much worth the price.


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Reply #11 posted 05/20/04 4:13pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

[color=blue:ba11ac675d]This song is proof that Prince has been influenced by Michael Jackson. This track sounds a helluva lot like MJ's "Too Bad", which preceeded Prince's interplotation. Its like Prince listened to "Too Bad" and princified it. Just an observation. [/color]
[This message was edited Thu May 20 13:27:38 2004 by BlaqueKnight]


Too Bad? What the heck is that from...don't you mean Bad...and if so disbelief Nothing like that song.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #12 posted 05/20/04 4:41pm

BlaqueKnight

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superspaceboy said:

BlaqueKnight said:

[color=blue:ba11ac675d]This song is proof that Prince has been influenced by Michael Jackson. This track sounds a helluva lot like MJ's "Too Bad", which preceeded Prince's interplotation. Its like Prince listened to "Too Bad" and princified it. Just an observation. [/color]
[This message was edited Thu May 20 13:27:38 2004 by BlaqueKnight]


Too Bad? What the heck is that from...don't you mean Bad...and if so disbelief Nothing like that song.


Why would you ASSUME I don't know what I'm talking about? "2 Bad"; NOT "Bad". Learn your HIStory...get it...listen...then post. rolleyes
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Reply #13 posted 05/21/04 3:22pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

superspaceboy said:



Too Bad? What the heck is that from...don't you mean Bad...and if so disbelief Nothing like that song.


[color=blue:becdac4687]Why would you ASSUME I don't know what I'm talking about? "2 Bad"; NOT "Bad". Learn your HIStory...get it...listen...then post. rolleyes [/color]
[This message was edited Thu May 20 16:42:17 2004 by BlaqueKnight]


I did check out his albums before I did...just not that one. Always forget the History album. Sorry. Didn't know MJ had a tune called 2bad. It's an honest mistake.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #14 posted 05/22/04 12:32pm

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a2grafix said:

Kind of interesting that he originally named it JUDAS KISS but about a month or two (in September/October 2001) the title changed to JUDAS SMILE.

Regardless, a pretty slamming track. The Chocolate Invasion vibe has been kicking since late summer 2001 in the states, right before the release of The Rainbow Children.


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Reply #15 posted 05/22/04 1:21pm

Kacey725

If any of you believe what Prince says in his interviews, it's doubtful that he's ever even HEARD "Too Bad." It wasn't released as a single, so it wouldn't be too hard for Prince to have NOT heard it...

I know how much some of you hate poor Alex Hahn, but I think he's on to something when he writes about the period of time in which Prince was willing to be influenced by other artists. Me doubts he was checking out the more recent MJ albums for inspiration for his latest disc.

"Let's Groove/September/Earth, Wind & Fire/Hot Pants by James/Sly's gonna take U higher"

No mention of the gloved one in there...I'm sure Prince couldn't care less!

Keith/Kacey
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Reply #16 posted 05/22/04 1:21pm

Kacey725

If any of you believe what Prince says in his interviews, it's doubtful that he's ever even HEARD "Too Bad." It wasn't released as a single, so it wouldn't be too hard for Prince to have NOT heard it...

I know how much some of you hate poor Alex Hahn, but I think he's on to something when he writes about the period of time in which Prince was willing to be influenced by other artists. Me doubts he was checking out the more recent MJ albums for inspiration for his latest disc.

"Let's Groove/September/Earth, Wind & Fire/Hot Pants by James/Sly's gonna take U higher"

No mention of the gloved one in there...I'm sure Prince couldn't care less!

Keith/Kacey
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Reply #17 posted 05/22/04 8:30pm

BlaqueKnight

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That's ridiculous. To hell with what a book says. LISTEN TO BOTH SONGS. They sound very similiar. The music speaks; books lie.
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