JOEYCOCO said:

Tell me this...? Just why was it ok for Prince to straighten his hair,but it's not ok for Lenny? And I'd love for you to re-post your thread about how Lenny ripped off Bob Marley, coz Lenny wore dreads after Bob did it? Oh that's right you can't, because you and others didn't complain about that particular silly topic!!

budlite said:

well, if it doesn't have much more to say, it kills just about any Lenny song in a moment simply by virtue of having a sense of humor. And that comment about jimi/richard was not sarcastic, Mr. sensitive. I like Lenny's energy, just wish he'd dig a little deeper.

To be fair, "Illusion, Coma..." has a messag eof respect for women, which, let's face it, is digging deeper into the bag than anything Lenny has tackled in awhile.

Kacey725 said:

My only comment to you would be; "Do your homework!" Lenny has been playing all if not most of the instruments on ALL of his albums since his first album came out 15 years ago!! He didn't "just" start doing it with this album. Prince was NOT the first musician to do this. I personally have a tremendous amount of respect for any musician who writes,plays,sings,and produces his/her own stuff! To take pot-shots at Lenny as a "ripoff",or a "Prince wannabee", just means one of two things about those that say it; 1.) They just don't like Lenny,his music/message. Which is fine to each their own. Or; 2.) They've not spent any time really listening to any of his albums,or lyrics. Which just means they're lashing out because God forbid any musician who just happens to be black straighten his hair because Prince did it before him??? What about Little Richard and J.B. before him? Who cares how anybody wears their hair,or if they have piercings or tattoo's? It's about the MUSIC. And at the end of the day,either you get it, or you don't! But it's just silly for some people to "judge the book" before they "turn the pages."

Peace & B Wild

To be fair, "Illusion, Coma..." has a messag eof respect for women, which, let's face it, is digging deeper into the bag than anything Lenny has tackled in awhile.

croweonbranch said:

ICP&P has no such message. he derides the woman throughout the song. her looks, her complexion, her style.

perm tips?

Universaluv said:

Cuz you might go bald!

Lenny's head is too big for that straight perm style he's sportin' in his latest video. He looks sort of Frankensteinish.
And, yes, I realize calling Lenny's head big is probably not the smartest thing to do on a Prince site. But with Prince, it just works out some how. His hair styles work with his noggin.

croweonbranch said:

ICP&P has no such message. he derides the woman throughout the song. her looks, her complexion, her style.

Kacey725 said:

actually, i don't really see Lenny emulating Prince. here's how i see it....

Prince and Lenny have a lot of similar influences. Hendrix, Sly Stone, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder... even the Beatles, Joni, etc.

throughout his career, Prince has very deftly assimilated all of his influences, distilled them, filtered them, mixed them, and come up with something incredibly original of his own. the influences can be heard, but he almost always runs them through his Paisley Park/NPG/whatever Bozoputer and turned them into something brand new.

Lenny, on the other hand, wears his influences on his sleeve. and while he is very talented at emulating those influences (Prince included), it's more of a regurgitation rather than doing anything new with them. on all of his albums, here's the Stevie song.... here's the Marvin song... here's the Hendrix song.....


so i don't think he's necessarily copying Prince. i think their (same) influences just speak through them in different ways.

JOEYCOCO said:

Tell me this...? Just why was it ok for Prince to straighten his hair,but it's not ok for Lenny? And I'd love for you to re-post your thread about how Lenny ripped off Bob Marley, coz Lenny wore dreads after Bob did it? Oh that's right you can't, because you and others didn't complain about that particular silly topic!!

What really bothers me is that most P fans don't like anyone else who is black, talented, male and has hair. It must be too much of a threat to Prince in their mind and too much of a threat to them as well. People want P to be the "only one".

Just a shame that musically Lenny Kravitz is poor Prince wannabe.

actually, i don't really see Lenny emulating Prince. here's how i see it....

Prince and Lenny have a lot of similar influences. Hendrix, Sly Stone, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder... even the Beatles, Joni, etc.

throughout his career, Prince has very deftly assimilated all of his influences, distilled them, filtered them, mixed them, and come up with something incredibly original of his own. the influences can be heard, but he almost always runs them through his Paisley Park/NPG/whatever Bozoputer and turned them into something brand new.

Lenny, on the other hand, wears his influences on his sleeve. and while he is very talented at emulating those influences (Prince included), it's more of a regurgitation rather than doing anything new with them. on all of his albums, here's the Stevie song.... here's the Marvin song... here's the Hendrix song.....


so i don't think he's necessarily copying Prince. i think their (same) influences just speak through them in different ways.

GrayKing said:

no. if you listen closely, the song asks who's pimpin who? and at the end of the song the lady makes the guy sign a prenup meaning she was using him all along while he was thinking he was going to get over and get rich just because she was old and ugly and desperate. She used him to have fun and feel young and beautiful and he thought he was going to get paid but no such thing happened so who was pimpin who? Some people would enjoy Prince's work a whole lot more if they paid more attention to the lyrics and the meaning of songs like this one. It seems simple, but you have to be think in order to get what's going on.

Stop all this Lenny bashing. Lenny is not trying to be Prince OK. It's funny how when someone has that look from any Prince era they are automatically labeled as a Prince Wannabe. Lenny likes & respects Prince as a musician. He is a fan. Just like some of you fanatics here. Lenny is cool & he also makes good music. He did not look at Prince & then started playing , producing, & writing songs. This is what makes an artist a true musician...not because Prince does it also. It's called talent, either you have it or you don't. Lenny definitely has it & has been doing it for 15 years now. You may not like him or his music but do not critcize his respecrt for Prince.

GrayKing said:

[color=blue:d426664b26]I agree, and I'm not that big a fan of Lenny's work.
Ugh, for those that don't realize this, Prince wasn't the first brotha to perm his hair. Y'all need to get off that "his hair is like Prince" mess. Peep ANY flick from the 70's and you'll see that style.[/color]

Kacey725 said:

actually, i don't really see Lenny emulating Prince. here's how i see it....

Prince and Lenny have a lot of similar influences. Hendrix, Sly Stone, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder... even the Beatles, Joni, etc.

throughout his career, Prince has very deftly assimilated all of his influences, distilled them, filtered them, mixed them, and come up with something incredibly original of his own. the influences can be heard, but he almost always runs them through his Paisley Park/NPG/whatever Bozoputer and turned them into something brand new.

Lenny, on the other hand, wears his influences on his sleeve. and while he is very talented at emulating those influences (Prince included), it's more of a regurgitation rather than doing anything new with them. on all of his albums, here's the Stevie song.... here's the Marvin song... here's the Hendrix song.....


so i don't think he's necessarily copying Prince. i think their (same) influences just speak through them in different ways.

budlite said:

Dreadlocks don't bother anyone because that equals nappy and nappy to most people equal black. Anything that's not nappy on a brother is a threat. That's why people didn't trip when Lenny had his dreads or his afro. No one said a word, because Lenny was in his "place". Now, people are bothered, saying it's like Prince. Prince does not own "Straight" hair. He was far from the first brother to do this. Being a black funk/rock musician, I've worn my hair long pretty much all my life. On sight, I've been compared to every black music artist that has ever had hair. So I know what it's like first hand. What really bothers me is that most P fans don't like anyone else who is black, talented, male and has hair. It must be too much of a threat to Prince in their mind and too much of a threat to them as well. People want P to be the "only one".