Actually, delectable just posed a question. I don't see anything in the quote below that "makes Prince seem like a bad person". Considering most of the posters here are self-proclaimed adults, many of them really jump to conclusions.

delectable137 said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Like what? There are many threads all the time discussing Prince's personal life and none of us knows the why's how's and heretofore's, but we all speculate anyway. There have been FAR dumber threads that I have seen in the past month, so I can't understand why this person has a lot to learn. Seems like they are fitting right in

Universaluv said:

amazes me how quick people are to call JWs a cult.

i've attended several funerals in churches not my own and yes, i am a JW. like mr. 7 said above, it's a conscience matter...

Zelaira said:

i hate funerals i find going to them extremely upsetting especilly when it is a close family member but i felt it was important to attend them for the sake of the rest of my family. but it is up to the individual some people just cant handle going to them so they greive in their own way
[This message was edited Wed May 19 1:08:40 2004 by Raine]

If he wanted to say his goodbyes privately, that's his business. Showing up at a funeral and mourning publicly does not make you a better person than anyone else. Various reports state that Prince and his mom were very close, and to me, that's the most important thing. The relationships you have with people when they are alive is far more important than how you observe their death.

Maybe Prince well Doesn't Believe in Death..In UTCM his poster said WITH LOVE THERE IS NO DEATH.. He says he Does Not Believe in Time...Maybe it's like a REINCARNATION and well he sang once..A BETTER PLACE TO DIE... But seriously I still say it's a very Personaltopic as his the Child's Death and his Divorce and well it is really how he Copes,Handles Stuff. I suppose if he does lean on Manuela or if it was he was Leaning on Mayte well Mother ya know well ya gotta be a Rock and Supportive. Ya gonna hear ALOT of Stuff. Deep Stuff. I Don't Think he Truly wants a Fan To KNOW all this....It's Way TOO PERSONAL... It's well if ya were a PSYCHIATRIST then Maybe... But well otherwise it's TOO Much...We as Fans hear Prince's Words...We Have Never seen him Actually Cry and well this wouldn't ever be weekness ya know but lately he has shown on the stage as he has seen from all of Us Fans that he is Loved and Admired for his work. This has touched him...He has felt it. A singer Conveys Emotions and Feelings when they Sing songs...Anyway, we have been Lucky to have been Invited to Share with him these emotions/feelings..We have been privy to All this and well he MUST Keep Things Private to a degree. Well Remember he's a GEMINI.

delectable137 said:

That's never been proven... Hell, it's never even be proven that there IS a god...


Ignorant... As if all religions are based on your bible...
There are numerous texts that are way older than your bible ("Bhagavad-gita" for example)that contain more than one god...
Hinduism, for one, isn't even remotely based on anything in your bible since it's based on older texts and is probably the oldest religion around...

Neversin.

delectable137 said:

Just goes to show he don't care dos shits about comforting his "fams".

Zelaira said:

I agree with this also.

shygirl said:

And there it is!

First of all, this topic is one that really truly is no one's business, but I do see how the subject matter can cause curiousity.

Secondly, how come in some people's posts just about every word is capitalized?

Third - If all cemeteries and golf courses were gotten rid of and that land was used to build homes for people - and then there were no more homeless - wouldn't even more people be well off enough to pro-create, thus causing overpopulation and more homeless people? Then we have to tear down some forests or start building houses on Mars.

T

oneradyear said:

If you think that people would screw more because they're not living in the street, then I don't know what to tell you. I would choose to house 40 living people rather than 40 dead ones. And, just in case you haven't noticed, YOUR politicians and government, and officials are already tearing down shit to build houses. AND, houses on Mars. Send an e-mail to Bush for me will ya. I didn't vote for him, so I'm not speaking to him.

Hahahaha. I didn't vote for Bush either...

But I believe it's true, if all the starving and homeless around the world were fed and housed, they would breed like rabbits, thus causing overpopulation and starvation and homelessness. It's like a neverending cycle. So what would the solution be? Maybe China has it right by only allowing one child per family? Because studies have shown that in times of economic growth there are more pregnancies.

Of course, it wouldn't hurt to get rid of golf courses and football stadiums. I "throw like a girl" anyway, so I wouldn't miss football or baseball.

T

oneradyear said:

Quite interesting conversation we've got going on here. We've moved off Prince and his issues over funerals on to a whole new area.

However, I think you probably are right about us breeding like rabbits (hell, I've got 5 children myself, lol). I guess, ultimately, there can't be a solution. There always has to be something to work towards and it is a never ending cycle.

I just can't seem to justify loading up all our dead people in one spot. It seems assinine to me. If you follow any religion or spirituality, aren't our bodies just the shell and it's the soul that it's all about? I don't keep the shell of anything (sunflower seeds, peanuts, etc.) Why then, shouldn't we give back to the earth what was taken (A.K.A., dust to dust, ashes to ashes).

Now, I throw like a girl too (duh). However, my 4-year-old just got his pee-wee football uniform on Saturday (he looks so damn cute). I don't want him to play, but it's a part of being a child. I think things like parks are vital, whereas cemetaries just are wasted space.

Whew, I should do some work here now. Later Orgers.

Zelaira said:

i would say that that makes them selfish and avoiders of real life..and real life issues..
who's to say that tomarrow you won't be one of those sick people wishing someone would come visit you ..life is no garantee anything could happen and it just might happen to you ..maybe you will feel different ..

Janfriend said:

i didn't go to my mother's funeral. am i wicked for not doing so?

Not Everyone especially DEPRESSED sorts and Not Saying Prince is DEPRESSED but ya Know some Doctors would ADVISE for the HEALTH of the PATIENT to NOT ATTEND or Visit Hospitals,Psycho Wards,Funerals. Some Religious Don't CELEBRATE or Acknowledge Death but Life... Just telling ya a different Side of things. What I've Read or Observed.

None of our damn business.

I didn't go to my dad's funeral. Anyone care why?

It's like as Everyday Joes like No one Cares what we do and our Life choices,why when we Become a Famous Entity does it all of the Sudden kinda Give Free Reign and then it's like we are Not ALLOWED any Sort of PRIVACY to Our ACTIONS or Thoughts ? It's like all of a Sudden we Have Planned Sinister things or our Motives are as Such Ill devised? We simply Can't BE? It's Really his Own Business and a VERY PRIVATE Matter. Maybe good Food for Fodder here but Really I don't Think This even Needs or Deserves an Analyzation nor an Explanation,however I could Probably Justify any and all Things. i just have that kind of Mind that can Argue the Point outta a Box.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

no because everyone deals with things in their own way. I don't think people around here realize it, but more than just speculation, some people are very judgemental and that in itself isn't right. Who are we to judge what that man does. We need to spend more time making sure we sweep around our own front doors before we take the broom to our neighbor's house! In other words live and let live.

Universaluv said:

Yeah, I don't say CULT lightly, but I DO BELIEVE it is what it is. I have family that are JWs, so I wouldn't just lightly say something like this, but it is. JW's beliefs are SO final, absolute and obsurdly EXTREME! The want everything cut and dry, nothing inbetween. Well guess what? Life isn't that simplistic, its very complicated due to our us all having individual thoughts and beliefs on how the world works. I think its terrible to fear another religion. Just because you enter a church doesn't mean you have to worship the way they do. I'm very anti-Catholic, yet some friends and family of mine do get married there. So do I insult them by not even attending? No, they are MY beliefs, I go, I don't genuflect(sp) or repeat their prayers. When its time to pray, I pray they way I believe it should be done. Anyways, I'm rambling, but I don't see why cults like JWs should control ppl like they do.

Neversin said:

from the looks of your picture profile i'm sure your hopeing there is not a god

MightBQueen said:

Then you aren't a TRUE JW are you then? Which I don't have a problem with, but the cult believes this to be so. Conscience has nothing to do with it, its brainwashing.YOU AREN'T SUPPOSE TO DO THIS CAUSE WE SAY SO. How is that quick? Its pretty self-explainatory right there.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Not at all, but Prince DID go to both funerals, he was just outside of each one, why not just go in then?

rudedog said:

Sounds like you fear their religion (this is turning into Religion& Politics forum by the way).

Look I understand, I've got family who are JW's also. Some of them have strong beliefs of things they will and won't do according to their religion. Personally I don't have a problem with that. Yeah the wolrd is complicated. But just about everybody has a certain things that they draw the line at.

For most Christians when it comes to Jesus being the messiah there is no discussion on that subject. He just is.

I have friends who are Jews, Hindus, etc..... They don't partake in everything that I do because of their religious beliefs. Cool. Likewise I don't need to participate in everything that they do just to be social.

I personally don't have a problem with attending another faiths service, but at the same time that's my belief. If someone else does have a problem with it then I respect their beliefs. (and I know quite a few non-JW's like that).


breathe.....rant over
(for now)

i really don't understand how everyone with a reply to my thread about his moms funeral has turned this into a religous debate about jw we have gotten off the topic at hand lets return back to the actual ? if at all possible

delectable137 said:

Well, I don't know how it's managed to stay religious or spiritual either except that seems to be the concensus of why most orgers think he didn't go in and attend. Now, back to my point for a sec. I don't think I need a ceremony to say goodbye to someone. For that matter, I don't need a ceremony to meet them either. Although I have no affiliation with JW, I do not allow my children to participate in Halloween, we don't do the whole "Easter bonnet" crap, and birthdays are just that, rememberance of the day you were born. Because they are babies, yeah, we have a cake and everything for them, but once you're at a certain age, what the heck are we celebrating here? You managed to live a whole 365 days from the last time you had cake and presents???

See, I just have a problem with rituals in general I think. Maybe back in the 60's when my mom was pregnant, they should have had those warnings about drinking and smoking during pregnancy, lol. How do you put up with me. Later Orgers.

Zelaira said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I didn't say anything about wicked

Janfriend said:

I do too think its kinda sad he did not go to his parents funerals.. NO ONE LIKES going to them..... Its not a fun thing..... But out of respect.. A friend of mine lives in MPLS.. and she said rumors going around were that he was PISSED at Tyka and his brother about how they handled the arrangements.. (altho it was said that Prince would NOT come with the family to discuss plans) .... so he just did not want to be a part of it.
But come on.. think about it.... Days after his son was DEAD he looked at Oprah and told her ALL IS GOOD!
So he DOES grieve a bit differently than most.....