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Thread started 05/18/04 7:12am

delectable137

why do you all think prince did not go to his moms funeral

i was just reading about prince's father john nelson passing away and then his mother 6 months later i read where he did not attend her funeral.and after his father died he had the purple house that his dad was liveing in demolished .whats up with all that ....i wonder
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Reply #1 posted 05/18/04 7:19am

Universaluv

From what I've seen, Jehovah's witnesses do not typically attend funeral services that are held in non-JW churches. However, that doesn't mean they can't mourn with the family at some other location (like a family members home).
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Reply #2 posted 05/18/04 7:22am

Neversin

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delectable137 said:

i was just reading about prince's father john nelson passing away and then his mother 6 months later i read where he did not attend her funeral.and after his father died he had the purple house that his dad was liveing in demolished .whats up with all that ....i wonder

I think he used his common sense (something more people should use) and logically said his goodbye's when they were still alive (he actually had the luxury to do that) instead of waiting for the moment when it would be too late, like most no-brainers do...
And well for the house... Killing off the past and ego...

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Reply #3 posted 05/18/04 7:29am

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When I dated a JW, I wanted to invite him to my church. He didn't want to go inside. Eventually I convinced him that his elders wouldn't be watching! LOL! Anyway, I think it's a common rule. It's not just a JW thing, either. I understand that some orthodox Jews will not enter a church or mosque. It's just a rule, I suppose...
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Reply #4 posted 05/18/04 7:56am

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either way, i'm sure he mourned their deaths in his own way....
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #5 posted 05/18/04 8:04am

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I was told that he had his own private viewing.
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Reply #6 posted 05/18/04 8:18am

TurnItUp

JW or not, I think Prince doesn't do funerals just like I don't. I remember he didn't attend Miles Davis funeral and I don't know of anybody elses funerals that he has attended. I feel him though.

I have someone close to me who just loves to go to funerals. I swear I think they just like to see who they have outlived. I, myself personally hate them with a passion, but of course, the ones I attend are my closest kin or a friend or relative of a friend, other than that I will pay my respects from a distance, but I won't be at your funeral.
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Reply #7 posted 05/18/04 8:36am

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TurnItUp said:

other than that I will pay my respects from a distance, but I won't be at your funeral.


But the music at mine's gonna rock!!! biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 05/18/04 9:32am

MonaLuvsYou

Cemetaries and Golf Courses are the biggest wastes of space on this earth! Funerals are no way for the deceased, but for the living who refuse to let go of the idea that their loved one is gone. They have to actually witness a burial in order to be convinced I suppose. However, have you ever noticed that all dead people have a place to live? A crazy percentage of living people are homeless. Shit, even if/when they die, if they are poor, there is still "Potter's Field" proving that all dead people got somewhere to lay down. My issue with Golf Courses is just my own personal observation but I think it's a stupid game that takes up space where people could be living.
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Reply #9 posted 05/18/04 10:28am

TurnItUp

Marrk said:

TurnItUp said:

other than that I will pay my respects from a distance, but I won't be at your funeral.


But the music at mine's gonna rock!!! biggrin


ok, I don't normally do funerals, but I'm coming to yours. biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 05/18/04 10:38am

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MonaLuvsYou said:

[color=blue:efc5c59775]Cemetaries and Golf Courses are the biggest wastes of space on this earth! Funerals are no way for the deceased, but for the living who refuse to let go of the idea that their loved one is gone. They have to actually witness a burial in order to be convinced I suppose. However, have you ever noticed that all dead people have a place to live? A crazy percentage of living people are homeless. Shit, even if/when they die, if they are poor, there is still "Potter's Field" proving that all dead people got somewhere to lay down. My issue with Golf Courses is just my own personal observation but I think it's a stupid game that takes up space where people could be living. [/color]



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Reply #11 posted 05/18/04 10:39am

Zelaira

Did Anybody EVER CONSIDER the Fact that Prince was Soo Overcome with Grief over his Parent's Death's that he COULDN"T Go? Maybe he didn't want the PUBLIC or Papparazzi Ruining this Occassion and Maybe he didn't Want Anyone to See Him WEEP. How Dare Anyone Ever Even Call or Think That Prince Doesn't Care or Have Feelings.. If you are INDEED a FAN you will Realize that HE IS a VERY SENSITIVE PERSON! LISTEN to the PAIN in his Songs listen to the FEELINGS CONVEYED. Obviously You Do NOT TREAT PRINCE as a HUMAN BEING Capable of DEEP EMOTIONS. Just Listen to the Music. I Know he is and I think he Just doesn't Wanna Show it. He needs Women to sort of Channel or Filter his Emotions through. Why do you think All of His Friends or Close Associates were /are women. Why did ya think Wendy and Lisa were so Important for Him. I am telling you although I do Not PERSONALLY have TEA with PRINCE well I Feel him.. It is HARD because he Has ALOT of HURT Inside and well the Music can just let ya Feel that at times. I think he deals with things with Humor also. Trying to Downplay it. Anyway just because he's a Professional doesn't Ever mean he doesn't have Feelings. I think this topic is WAY RUDE,INFLAMATORY and HURTFUL...
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Reply #12 posted 05/18/04 10:40am

Mr7

It is a conscience matter.

Some chose to, some do not.

There is no reprimand or reproof.

Each one answers to God in his own way.

Peace
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Reply #13 posted 05/18/04 10:42am

Neversin

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Zelaira said:

I think this topic is WAY RUDE,INFLAMATORY and HURTFUL...

Then why respond to it?

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Reply #14 posted 05/18/04 10:56am

Tom

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MonaLuvsYou said:

[color=blue:efc5c59775]Cemetaries and Golf Courses are the biggest wastes of space on this earth! Funerals are no way for the deceased, but for the living who refuse to let go of the idea that their loved one is gone. They have to actually witness a burial in order to be convinced I suppose. However, have you ever noticed that all dead people have a place to live? A crazy percentage of living people are homeless. Shit, even if/when they die, if they are poor, there is still "Potter's Field" proving that all dead people got somewhere to lay down. My issue with Golf Courses is just my own personal observation but I think it's a stupid game that takes up space where people could be living. [/color]


I really don't think of anyone in my family who has passed on as "taking up space", this includes pets of mine that I have buried. Funerals are a nice way to reflect on and honor a person after they have died. Besides, don't people pay for that piece of land??? It's a much better use of space IMO than some broken down boat sitting in someone's yard. If I want to set up a small space as a memorial for a loved one, that's my business, not to mention, I bought it.
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Reply #15 posted 05/18/04 11:06am

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youngyosh said:

MonaLuvsYou said:

[color=blue:efc5c59775]Cemetaries and Golf Courses are the biggest wastes of space on this earth! Funerals are no way for the deceased, but for the living who refuse to let go of the idea that their loved one is gone. They have to actually witness a burial in order to be convinced I suppose. However, have you ever noticed that all dead people have a place to live? A crazy percentage of living people are homeless. Shit, even if/when they die, if they are poor, there is still "Potter's Field" proving that all dead people got somewhere to lay down. My issue with Golf Courses is just my own personal observation but I think it's a stupid game that takes up space where people could be living. [/color]



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Reply #16 posted 05/18/04 12:06pm

TurnItUp

Zelaira said:

Did Anybody EVER CONSIDER the Fact that Prince was Soo Overcome with Grief over his Parent's Death's that he COULDN"T Go? Maybe he didn't want the PUBLIC or Papparazzi Ruining this Occassion and Maybe he didn't Want Anyone to See Him WEEP. How Dare Anyone Ever Even Call or Think That Prince Doesn't Care or Have Feelings.. If you are INDEED a FAN you will Realize that HE IS a VERY SENSITIVE PERSON! LISTEN to the PAIN in his Songs listen to the FEELINGS CONVEYED. Obviously You Do NOT TREAT PRINCE as a HUMAN BEING Capable of DEEP EMOTIONS. Just Listen to the Music. I Know he is and I think he Just doesn't Wanna Show it. He needs Women to sort of Channel or Filter his Emotions through. Why do you think All of His Friends or Close Associates were /are women. Why did ya think Wendy and Lisa were so Important for Him. I am telling you although I do Not PERSONALLY have TEA with PRINCE well I Feel him.. It is HARD because he Has ALOT of HURT Inside and well the Music can just let ya Feel that at times. I think he deals with things with Humor also. Trying to Downplay it. Anyway just because he's a Professional doesn't Ever mean he doesn't have Feelings. I think this topic is WAY RUDE,INFLAMATORY and HURTFUL...


So what, I was overcome with grief when I lost my loved one and I didn't want to have to see people either, but I still was there whether I wanted to or not.

Here we go with the REAL FAN shit. We on the org don't have to agree or have the same opinions as you. That's how you feel. If he didn't go for whatever reason he didn't go, but that is still weird that he couldn't even be there for the two people that bought him in the world. They weren't strangers, they were his parents. He just didn't want to deal. Bottom Line.
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Reply #17 posted 05/18/04 12:22pm

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Zelaira said:

Did Anybody EVER CONSIDER the Fact that Prince was Soo Overcome with Grief over his Parent's Death's that he COULDN"T Go? Maybe he didn't want the PUBLIC or Papparazzi Ruining this Occassion and Maybe he didn't Want Anyone to See Him WEEP. How Dare Anyone Ever Even Call or Think That Prince Doesn't Care or Have Feelings.. If you are INDEED a FAN you will Realize that HE IS a VERY SENSITIVE PERSON! LISTEN to the PAIN in his Songs listen to the FEELINGS CONVEYED. Obviously You Do NOT TREAT PRINCE as a HUMAN BEING Capable of DEEP EMOTIONS. Just Listen to the Music. I Know he is and I think he Just doesn't Wanna Show it. He needs Women to sort of Channel or Filter his Emotions through. Why do you think All of His Friends or Close Associates were /are women. Why did ya think Wendy and Lisa were so Important for Him. I am telling you although I do Not PERSONALLY have TEA with PRINCE well I Feel him.. It is HARD because he Has ALOT of HURT Inside and well the Music can just let ya Feel that at times. I think he deals with things with Humor also. Trying to Downplay it. Anyway just because he's a Professional doesn't Ever mean he doesn't have Feelings. I think this topic is WAY RUDE,INFLAMATORY and HURTFUL...

You know what? eek I agree with you! boxed
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Reply #18 posted 05/18/04 12:28pm

slebnak

I wasn't at my Dad's funeral...methinks this is way too personal a thing for a stranger to contemplate...you know his music but you really don't know the man
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Reply #19 posted 05/18/04 12:34pm

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Universaluv said:

From what I've seen, Jehovah's witnesses do not typically attend funeral services that are held in non-JW churches. However, that doesn't mean they can't mourn with the family at some other location (like a family members home).


See, this is why I don't believe Prince should be apart of a hating CULT like that. Its just not christian or just cool to hate everyone else BUT your "own" ppl. I wouldn't mind walking in a JW church with Prince, but if were a practicing Muslim, Hindi, Christian or otherwise...he wouldn't return the favor. Thats not cool.
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Reply #20 posted 05/18/04 12:58pm

Universaluv

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See, this is why I don't believe Prince should be apart of a hating CULT like that. Its just not christian or just cool to hate everyone else BUT your "own" ppl. I wouldn't mind walking in a JW church with Prince, but if were a practicing Muslim, Hindi, Christian or otherwise...he wouldn't return the favor. Thats not cool.


Cult, such an inflammatory word!

Anyway, to be fair it's not about hating other religions. As I understand it (and I could be soooo wrong on this), it has more to do with not participating in worship services that you don't believe in. It's a strict stance, but I understand it even if I may not agree with it.

Either way, I don't think it's cool to tell anybody else how they should grieve or what faith they should or should not follow. Ultimately that's about as personal a matter as you can have and it's really Prince's business how he chose to handle that situation.




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Reply #21 posted 05/18/04 1:03pm

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slebnak said:

I wasn't at my Dad's funeral...methinks this is way too personal a thing for a stranger to contemplate...you know his music but you really don't know the man

exactamundo. delectable, you got a lot to learn 'round here...
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Reply #22 posted 05/18/04 1:19pm

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MonaLuvsYou said:

[color=blue:efc5c59775]Cemetaries and Golf Courses are the biggest wastes of space on this earth! Funerals are no way for the deceased, but for the living who refuse to let go of the idea that their loved one is gone. They have to actually witness a burial in order to be convinced I suppose. However, have you ever noticed that all dead people have a place to live? A crazy percentage of living people are homeless. Shit, even if/when they die, if they are poor, there is still "Potter's Field" proving that all dead people got somewhere to lay down. My issue with Golf Courses is just my own personal observation but I think it's a stupid game that takes up space where people could be living. [/color]


I really don't think of anyone in my family who has passed on as "taking up space", this includes pets of mine that I have buried. Funerals are a nice way to reflect on and honor a person after they have died. Besides, don't people pay for that piece of land??? It's a much better use of space IMO than some broken down boat sitting in someone's yard. If I want to set up a small space as a memorial for a loved one, that's my business, not to mention, I bought it.

I'm pretty sure if your ass was homeless, you would be singing a different tune.

However, just to get this from another prospective, WHY THE HELL DO I WANT FLUFFY'S DEAD ASS UNDER THE DIRT IN MY BACK YARD? That is sick. If you move, do you take all the dead animals with you? What about the next person who moves there. Won't someone dig fluffy's ass up and desecrate his memory?

Ideally, people do whatever they want to do. However, a sad fact of reality is that sometimes we have to do what we don't want to do either. My parents died within 1 year of each other. My father wanted to be cremated and my mother wanted to be buried. Wouldn't it have been nice if one of them left some money or something behind to follow their wishes through. I ran three credit cards into the ground just to bury my mother. (Only child here). Meanwhile, I cremated my father, got him a cool urn, had enough for a six pack and a bottle of white wine and called it a night. Even if I did have an inclination to visit my mother's gravesite (creepy shit for me), I wouldn't even know where to begin. I would hate to get lost in the cemetary.

Plus, what about all this talk on the news about the mortuary guy and what he's been doing with the bodies down here in Atlanta anyway.

Ok, I think I've ranted and raved enough for one day. Forgive me fellow orgers. Just a really touchy subject with me.
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Reply #23 posted 05/18/04 2:05pm

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youngyosh said:

HEY I LIKE GOLF! why dont you start of with baseball stadiums. razz



Back off Baseball right now! boxing I love Baseball !!!!!
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

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Reply #24 posted 05/18/04 2:10pm

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MonaLuvsYou said:

.....My issue with Golf Courses is just my own personal observation but I think it's a stupid game that takes up space where people could be living.


rolleyes

The same could be said for parks, open space, animal sanctuaries, etc.....
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Reply #25 posted 05/18/04 4:12pm

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Sowhat said:

MonaLuvsYou said:

.....My issue with Golf Courses is just my own personal observation but I think it's a stupid game that takes up space where people could be living.


rolleyes

The same could be said for parks, open space, animal sanctuaries, etc.....

..some folks do live at golf courses..ya know.."country clubs"...so its not always wasted space...but its not like there is a shotage of land for those who want it...although the thought of "owning land" still seems a little odd to me, that is the way it is..so..get a job...get a sugar daddy...get in a will...do something, and you can have your very own "wasted space"
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Reply #26 posted 05/18/04 7:35pm

delectable137

there is only one GOD..WHY SO MANY RELIGIONS.AND IF THAT WHERE THE CASE NOT WANTING TO GO TO ANYONE ELSES CHURCH THATS DIFFERENT THAN YOUR OWN I BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TOUGHT .THAT GOD IS LOVE AND LOVES EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION .LIKE I SAID THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD NOT HUNDREDS.....PEOPLE TWIST THE BIBLE AROUND TO SUIT THERE OWN NEEDS ..AND THATS WHY I BELIEVE THERE IS SO MANY RELIGIONS HOW EVER HIM NOT GOING TO HIS MOMS FUNERAL SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABOUT HIM AND HIS FEELINGS .....EVEN IF HE WOULD HAVE WENT WHEN EVERYONE WAS GONE THAT STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN NOT GOING AT ALL ..I MEAN HE IS NOT BIGGER THAN LIFE..LIFE WILL HAPPEN NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE ...
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Reply #27 posted 05/18/04 10:03pm

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delectable137 said:

there is only one GOD..WHY SO MANY RELIGIONS.AND IF THAT WHERE THE CASE NOT WANTING TO GO TO ANYONE ELSES CHURCH THATS DIFFERENT THAN YOUR OWN I BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TOUGHT .THAT GOD IS LOVE AND LOVES EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION .LIKE I SAID THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD NOT HUNDREDS.....PEOPLE TWIST THE BIBLE AROUND TO SUIT THERE OWN NEEDS ..AND THATS WHY I BELIEVE THERE IS SO MANY RELIGIONS HOW EVER HIM NOT GOING TO HIS MOMS FUNERAL SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABOUT HIM AND HIS FEELINGS .....EVEN IF HE WOULD HAVE WENT WHEN EVERYONE WAS GONE THAT STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN NOT GOING AT ALL ..I MEAN HE IS NOT BIGGER THAN LIFE..LIFE WILL HAPPEN NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE ...


couldn't have said it any better than that.
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Reply #28 posted 05/18/04 10:08pm

Zelaira

Maybe his Family has ISSUES with him over this; but I am Sure Prince just was Too DISTRAUGHT to Attend the Funerals. You are Making it Sound like PRINCE is a BAD PERSON...Many people do NOT want to Visit the sick or go to Funerals.. Does that make them Bad people? I would say Not!
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Reply #29 posted 05/18/04 10:20pm

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It's one thing to not go to funerals, but to not go to your PARENTS' funerals?! I don't get it. I'm not judging Prince as being bad for not going, but the people who raised you...
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