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PrintableLove2tha9s said: I'm listening to it now from track one straight thru till the end and it is long.
What is the longest single disc of prince's commercial catalog? I guess I would be talking track length and put together total run time. Not number of songs. Man i've been listening to 1999 so long I almost fell asleep on it.  hehe try listening to America extended remix. Or maybe the boot of partyman:  [This message was edited Sun May 16 12:47:45 2004 by speculator3m] | |
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ThataintFunky said: "1999" is a short double album!
But it's a double because Prince had so much fantastic material in his hands. Just listen to the tracks that didn't made it: Feel U Up (1982 version), Irresistible Bitch (demo version), Turn It Up, Do Yourself A Favour, Purple Music, Extra Lovable, No Call U, Moonbeam Levels (A Better Place To Die). That are great tracks! When the format changed from vinyl to cd, he felt obliged to make longer albums .... and the filler-up tracks were introduced! Do Yourself A Favour, Purple Music.....wow never heard of these. i'll have to ck the p2ps | |
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chrisslope9 said: 20 years later it is easy to say this Prince album or that Prince album is the best or to even flat out dis Purple Rain. But if you were there, YOU KNOW BETTER.
Oh please... whether you were there or not has nothing to do with it. What ultimately counts is how you personally feel about the music. Whether it was groundbreaking, shook up the airwaves, loved by critics, etc... that's all nothing unless you rely on others for feedback and validation of your own tastes. For the record, I was "there" back in the day. The PR album and movie were a nice hook to get me mildly interested. It was ATWIAD that made me sit up and really take notice, though. PR has some nice tracks but, personally, I feel it is both more uneven and less interesting than the album immediately before and many after it. While I wouldn't say that PR is outright "commercial" it's certainly "commercial" in the Prince sense. It's more toward pop than anything before it and the Prince persona is toned down quite a bit on record, imo. Plus, other than WDC - he really covers no new ground. If PR had been another double album where he'd had room to expand on some more musical ideas then I might feel a bit differently. For example, I really like the extended version of Let's Go crazy and Computer Blue but on the album they aren't quite so strong - Computer Blue especially has been whittled down to little. | |
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Chrisslope9, thanks for laying down the law. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Actually,at right around 70 minutes, " 1999 " is shorter than your average double LP. [This message was edited Sun May 16 13:45:48 2004 by MrTation] "...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....." | |
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MrTation said: Actually,at right around 70 minutes, " 1999 " is shorter than your average double LP.
[This message was edited Sun May 16 13:45:48 2004 by MrTation] yeah, it is... I can't remember but can't you put 30 mins of music on each side of a vinyl album? If so then there is technically room for a max of 120 mins with a double - but song length effects this negatively as longer songs tend to make it harder to fill up a side properly. | |
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manna from heaven | |
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Thumparello said: THIS IN MY OPINION IS PRINCE'S GREATEST LP. I KNOW MANY SAY PURPLE RAIN. BUT PURPLE RAIN WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED WITHOUT THIS GROUNDBREAKING LP. PURPLE RAIN SOUNDS LIKE A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF 1999 DESIGNED FOR CROSSOVERING TO A BIGGER MARKET.
Purple Rain is not watered down at all, it's brilliant. AND WHY DO I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING SCREAMED AT? I hate capslock.  | |
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rainbowchild said: try listening to emancipation straight thru...you'll be snoring in no time..[/quote]
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1999 
The only part that slows down for me is Free and All the Critics... gets me in the snooze mood... I mean, like, where is the sun? | |
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Natsume said: 1999
The only part that slows down for me is Free and All the Critics... gets me in the snooze mood... "all the critics..." makes you sleepy? that shit makes me wanna bounce around in my seat!
yes, we're certain of it...he's definitely masturbating...  | |
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ahhh man 1999 is an amazing thing
i love how its long, thats one of the things that disappoints me about musicology is that its so short. But 1999, oh my gosh thats like one of the albums i can listen to straight with no skips..... my fav use to be dmsr, but nowadays let's pretend we're married gets me off as well as something in the water does not compute!!!!! I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Natsume said: 1999
The only part that slows down for me is Free and All the Critics... gets me in the snooze mood... And I sensed such promise after finding out you liked "The War"...  This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Thumparello said: THIS IN MY OPINION IS PRINCE'S GREATEST LP. I KNOW MANY SAY PURPLE RAIN. BUT PURPLE RAIN WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED WITHOUT THIS GROUNDBREAKING LP. PURPLE RAIN SOUNDS LIKE A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF 1999 DESIGNED FOR CROSSOVERING TO A BIGGER MARKET.
I totally agree. 1999 is P's best album. He was in a zone during that period that he has never been in since. True, some of the songs are long, basically he put 12' versions of his songs on that album, that's all. But he was never more innovative than he was on 1999 album. That's a masterpiece album. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him." http://ccoshea19.googlepa...ssanctuary http://ccoshea19.googlepages.com | |
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chrisslope9 said: Thumparello said: THIS IN MY OPINION IS PRINCE'S GREATEST LP. I KNOW MANY SAY PURPLE RAIN. BUT PURPLE RAIN WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED WITHOUT THIS GROUNDBREAKING LP. PURPLE RAIN SOUNDS LIKE A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF 1999 DESIGNED FOR CROSSOVERING TO A BIGGER MARKET.
NO WAY !!! Purple Rain is 1999 taken three steps further towards the rock side of the road, while at the same time showing Prince's further growth as a songwritter and musician. The songs were very well crafted and very melodic. People like to disrespect Purple Rain now days because it is the 'cool Prince fan thing to do' Say your favorite Prince album is Lovesexy or For You and dis Purple Rain . . . whatever?! Only if you were there when Purple Rain dropped can you begin to understand the impact it made an how incredibly HUGE it was. Otherwise you just can't grasp it . When 'When Dove Cry ' dropped people were absolutely amazed,baffled, and won over all at the same time. You can't appreciate how it captivated everyone now because the song and the sound it started have been ripped off and played to death over the past 20 years. Take a song like Lets go Crazy. In 1984 that song got major airplay on Classic Rock , Top 40, Hard Rock, College Radio, R&B, and Disco stations ALL AT ONCE. Just for a second, Prince sucsessfuly desegrated radio. Because of Purple Rain, the fucking guy was on the covers of CREAM ( a clssic rock mag) and Black Beat (an R&B mag) in the same month and it didn't happen because he was an old well respected institution like he is now. He got those covers cause he was HOT AS HELL in BOTH markets. Purple Rain was hailed by just about all critics for being a GROUNDBREAKING step in Prince's career as well as a groundbreaking step in modern pop music period! Prince and Purple Rain were ultimately credted with creating the funk/rock fusion sound that exploded in the mid and late 80's which spawned hundreds of imatators and led to Prince having to drasticly sqash that image he created in order to distance himself from the clowns who were copping his vibe. 20 years later it is easy to say this Prince album or that Prince album is the best or to even flat out dis Purple Rain. But if you were there, YOU KNOW BETTER. [This message was edited Sun May 16 1:52:12 2004 by chrisslope9] [This message was edited Sun May 16 1:52:58 2004 by chrisslope9] I was there and I do love the Purple Rain album. When Doves Cry was so good that at the time it came out, it scared people it was so good. It didn't even really sound like music. It sounded like something else. It was classical music disguised as a pop song. That's when a lot of people first realized how great P was. And yes, P was all over the radio and the black and white markets. Still, 1999 made Purple Rain possible. He set the whole thing up for Purple Rain during the 1999 period. Definately during the 1999 tour. He knew where he was going with Purple Rain during that 1999 tour, and anyone who saw him during that tour, would have seen that. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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My first Prince album, I have this to thank for changing the way I listen to music.
My top 5 P albums differs from time to time so I'm not going to argue if this is his best. But I really love how long the songs are becaues half the time I think his songs are too short since they're so great! | |
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1999 was in my opinion the best album he has made yet. "Love God" | |
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If you had heard 1999 - The New Master, 1999 would sound like...15 minutes tops. | |
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Doesn't 1999 run more around 60-minutes than 70-minutes?
The other reason 1999 was on a single disc while SIGN O THE TIMES was on two was because, yes, in order to fit the whole thing for CD, it had to be on two discs. But also, SIGN O THE TIMES was the newer release-- 1999 came out before CDs were the thing. To have omitted any tracks on the CD release of SIGN O THE TIMES would have made consumers pretty peeved. By the time it was released on CD, 1999 was already old news. | |
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chrisslope9 said: whodknee said: Purple Rain is a condensed, more focused version of 1999. I prefer the meandering of 1999 because it feels more exploratory and experimental. Prince was still searching and discovering new musical possibilities on 1999. With Purple Rain he was perfecting what he had found with 1999 and the previous albums. The problem I have with Purple Rain in contrast, is that the songs aren't given time to breathe as much as they were on 1999. It was a much more commercial album. There's nothing wrong with that because there are times when you just want to listen to some cool, short, catchy songs.
[This message was edited Sun May 16 9:47:20 2004 by whodknee] I can't see how people can call Purple Rain a commercial album. When it was released in the early summer of 1984 there was NOTHING out there that sounded anything like it. When your first single HAS NO BASS , how commercial can you really hope to be. Purple Rain was very much a rock album and rock music was sort of dead in the water in 1984(the year P.R. was released). The album instantly changed the modern music scene. Again , I go back to what I said before , 20 YEARS LATER IT IS VERY EASY TO CALL PURPLE RAIN A COMMERCIAL ALBUM. If you are going to call it calculatedly commercialor 'sellout' commercial , then I also have to disagree. If anything, it was commercial in the way that Nirvana's Nevermind was commercial. Both were released and both sounded not quite anything that was being done at the time. Both drastically changed the modern music scene. Both have been ripped off and done to death so much since their release that there impact is becoming diminished. Read what I wrote. I didn't diminish the Purple Rain album. I said it was MORE commercial, not that it is a lesser album or a "sell-out". Nowhere did I say anything about it being a calculated attempt though it obviously was-- why else would they attach a movie to it? When I say commercial I mean easiER to digest and format for airplay. It's more accessible than 1999. The songs are short and concise and as I stated my preference is for the longer, less polished songs on 1999. I'm not one of those orgers that act too cool to like Purple Rain as if it is for the casual fan only. I've always loved that album, just not as much as 1999.  |
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chrisslope9 said: Thumparello said: THIS IN MY OPINION IS PRINCE'S GREATEST LP. I KNOW MANY SAY PURPLE RAIN. BUT PURPLE RAIN WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED WITHOUT THIS GROUNDBREAKING LP. PURPLE RAIN SOUNDS LIKE A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF 1999 DESIGNED FOR CROSSOVERING TO A BIGGER MARKET.
NO WAY !!! Purple Rain is 1999 taken three steps further towards the rock side of the road, while at the same time showing Prince's further growth as a songwritter and musician. The songs were very well crafted and very melodic. People like to disrespect Purple Rain now days because it is the 'cool Prince fan thing to do' Say your favorite Prince album is Lovesexy or For You and dis Purple Rain . . . whatever?! Only if you were there when Purple Rain dropped can you begin to understand the impact it made an how incredibly HUGE it was. Otherwise you just can't grasp it . When 'When Dove Cry ' dropped people were absolutely amazed,baffled, and won over all at the same time. You can't appreciate how it captivated everyone now because the song and the sound it started have been ripped off and played to death over the past 20 years. Take a song like Lets go Crazy. In 1984 that song got major airplay on Classic Rock , Top 40, Hard Rock, College Radio, R&B, and Disco stations ALL AT ONCE. Just for a second, Prince sucsessfuly desegrated radio. Because of Purple Rain, the fucking guy was on the covers of CREAM ( a clssic rock mag) and Black Beat (an R&B mag) in the same month and it didn't happen because he was an old well respected institution like he is now. He got those covers cause he was HOT AS HELL in BOTH markets. Purple Rain was hailed by just about all critics for being a GROUNDBREAKING step in Prince's career as well as a groundbreaking step in modern pop music period! Prince and Purple Rain were ultimately credted with creating the funk/rock fusion sound that exploded in the mid and late 80's which spawned hundreds of imatators and led to Prince having to drasticly sqash that image he created in order to distance himself from the clowns who were copping his vibe. 20 years later it is easy to say this Prince album or that Prince album is the best or to even flat out dis Purple Rain. But if you were there, YOU KNOW BETTER. [This message was edited Sun May 16 1:52:12 2004 by chrisslope9] [This message was edited Sun May 16 1:52:58 2004 by chrisslope9] AMEN! | |
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