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Thread started 05/15/04 11:17am

DigitalGardin

What is the fascination with the GOLD EXPERIENCE album??

I notice that everyone on here worships the GOLD EXPERIENCE album..I just cant get with it..other than "SHH!!", "Dolphin", "319", "Shy" and "I Hate You" the GOLD EXPERIENCE does nothing for me.....TRC is definitely a much better release than GOLD EXPERIENCE. What is everyone's fascination with this album? It reminds me of the album that shoulda been released after DIAMONDS AND PEARLS but before the Symbol album
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Reply #1 posted 05/15/04 11:24am

TheBluePrince

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The endorphins, the Hate, the silence (Shhh), the pussy, the dolphins, and the cool, dark skin in hot virgin white.

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Reply #2 posted 05/15/04 11:33am

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DigitalGardin said:

I notice that everyone on here worships the GOLD EXPERIENCE album..I just cant get with it..other than "SHH!!", "Dolphin", "319", "Shy" and "I Hate You" the GOLD EXPERIENCE does nothing for me.....TRC is definitely a much better release than GOLD EXPERIENCE. What is everyone's fascination with this album? It reminds me of the album that shoulda been released after DIAMONDS AND PEARLS but before the Symbol album


The album that finally got released wasn't the actual album that was supposed to be released. "Days of Wild" and "Acknowledge Me" were supposed to be on there, but he took them off for some unknown reason. I forgot the original configuration, but I remember seeing an ad for it that Prince put out saying that it would never be released.

The released album is, IMO, really one of his best. It makes my top ten list. However, I think the album is forever marred by the inclusion of "P Control." What a bad was to start an album.
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Reply #3 posted 05/15/04 11:39am

Anxiety

i like this album okay, but i know some people go absolutely apeshit over it. i like several songs on TGE, but there are several songs i really find annoying on it, as well as some songs i really just gotta be in the mood for. and i really dislike the whole "npg announcer" thing. i'm glad that whole schtick didn't last long.
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Reply #4 posted 05/15/04 11:46am

DigitalGardin

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i like this album okay, but i know some people go absolutely apeshit over it. i like several songs on TGE, but there are several songs i really find annoying on it, as well as some songs i really just gotta be in the mood for. and i really dislike the whole "npg announcer" thing. i'm glad that whole schtick didn't last long.



exactly! this album is OK..its better than D&P but songs like NOW and WE MARCH and BILLY JACK BITCH, P CONTROL..come on now....L-A-M-E!
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Reply #5 posted 05/15/04 11:54am

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DigitalGardin said:

I notice that everyone on here worships the GOLD EXPERIENCE album..I just cant get with it..

Feeling you.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #6 posted 05/15/04 11:59am

blackboab

it is a very good album but is marred by the inclusion of pussy control, we march and a poor version of endorphin machine.
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Reply #7 posted 05/15/04 12:10pm

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It's a good solid batch of songs.

At the time, the whole name change thing, many of these songs on the LP were from that time 1993, and shortly after of course in 1994.

The whole name change thing, the fans that stuck around and DIDN'T get scared off by the apparent craziness of "changing" your name to an unpronouncable symbol - I think we felt rewarded/justified in sticking with Prince because there seemed to be a renewed lust/energy in the music in the songs he was recording during/after the name change.

These songs make up Come, TGE and the tracks on CB from this era - Interactive, Acknowledge Me, yadda, yadda.

The band was excellent, focused, the MC Hammer rap fluff of Tony M had gone, and it was exciting!

Hearing them on bootleg only for, what a year, (almost 2?) made the songs on TGE seem like an insider thrill - Prince, that crazy pop star who used to be cool, he'd lost it, but here were these batch of killer NEW songs that were only available on bootleg.

Then the tour of course, hearing this unreleased NEW music played live, those of us who had the bootlegs, it was, again, exciting!

The eventual release was a complete anti-climax because Prince was bored of it all by then and the promotion from Prince & WB was lacklustre. But I think TGE could have been a commercial success as big as D&P.

If only TGE received the attention/timing/etc that Musicology had..... smile
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Reply #8 posted 05/15/04 12:16pm

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I don't know what's about this particular album, but I love it.
Love can save us all......
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Reply #9 posted 05/15/04 1:48pm

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This album is just very passionate. A lot of it comes from the production- this album freakin' rocks hard. It's LOUD. It's a kind of pissed-off, edgy, dark sound that P explored in those couple of years (1993- 1995) that was just exciting and after that in the late 90s, his production seemed tame and "safe" in comparison. The Rainbow Children and the newest incarnation of the NPG was like a pleasant melding of the two sounds (the more loud, bombastic sound of the early to mid 90s- and the late 90's soft R&B sound). So, in a way, the new band offers a little something for everyone.

For me, the Gold Experience, and bits of Come, Exodus, and even Chaos and Disorder were just a great marriage of hard rock and hard funk that Prince had never quite explored before or since. He was both angry and musically enraged back then!
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Reply #10 posted 05/15/04 2:10pm

LAProducer

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am I the only one who really likes pussy control? That's one of my faves on this record. I do agree it would have been killer if he opened it with days of wild
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Reply #11 posted 05/15/04 2:13pm

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TheBigBang said:

DigitalGardin said:

I notice that everyone on here worships the GOLD EXPERIENCE album..I just cant get with it..other than "SHH!!", "Dolphin", "319", "Shy" and "I Hate You" the GOLD EXPERIENCE does nothing for me.....TRC is definitely a much better release than GOLD EXPERIENCE. What is everyone's fascination with this album? It reminds me of the album that shoulda been released after DIAMONDS AND PEARLS but before the Symbol album


The album that finally got released wasn't the actual album that was supposed to be released. "Days of Wild" and "Acknowledge Me" were supposed to be on there, but he took them off for some unknown reason. I forgot the original configuration, but I remember seeing an ad for it that Prince put out saying that it would never be released.

The released album is, IMO, really one of his best. It makes my top ten list. However, I think the album is forever marred by the inclusion of "P Control." What a bad was to start an album.


I have to agree with the last part most assuredly.
"Why'd I waste my kisses on you baby?" R.I.P. Prince You've finally found your way back home. Well Done.
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Reply #12 posted 05/15/04 2:57pm

jempson

i really think that this is one of his better albums. with the exception of we march, now, and billy jack bitch(weak songs, in my opinion. i would have kept interactive and days of wild, which were to be included as far as i know) the songs are tight, and the album has a good flow to it. i think the production quality is really good, and as somebody stated earlier, the album is LOUD!!!(especially michael b. on the drums). as for the NPG operator, i like that a whole lot more than the narration of THE RAINBOW CHILDREN(which keeps me from being able to enjoy the music), and those annoying waves from COME.
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Reply #13 posted 05/15/04 3:06pm

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LAProducer said:

am I the only one who really likes pussy control? That's one of my faves on this record. I do agree it would have been killer if he opened it with days of wild


P Control is a great opener and a great song.
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Reply #14 posted 05/15/04 3:11pm

homeandmantel

This album sucks. period
the rainbow children sucks.

its retard music. nothing original,
maybe he started taking drugs or something, but almost everything since 87 is just plain retarded. Maybe he was going after the retard MJ fans or something.
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Reply #15 posted 05/15/04 3:33pm

richierich

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Ye I cant understand the fuss ,though I like the singles.The rest of the album is not really my cup of tea.
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Reply #16 posted 05/15/04 3:46pm

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At the time, it was very refreshing and we waited ages 4 this muther 2 come!

Very raw etc...not ashamed to play this to a grundge fan (I know it's not grunge..)!

I actaully think "Now" is ahead of it's time with its almost raw rap/metal melding sound! I know that Limp Biscuit and his rap/metal friends ain't popular no more but maybe prince was early on that one! Also the weird sample he uses at the beginning of track, reminds me of Limp too!

Muscially can't compare it to "TRC"! That album 4 me seems to be liked by P fans of an early 80's liking! To me it is good in places but it is not pop! And the title track is bull! Dig those Jehovah lyrics!

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Reply #17 posted 05/15/04 3:55pm

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thesexofit said:

At the time, it was very refreshing and we waited ages 4 this muther 2 come!

Very raw etc...not ashamed to play this to a grundge fan (I know it's not grunge..)!

I actaully think "Now" is ahead of it's time with its almost raw rap/metal melding sound! I know that Limp Biscuit and his rap/metal friends ain't popular no more but amybe prince was early on that one! Also the weird sample he uses at the beginning of track, reminds me of Limp too!

Muscially can't compare to "TRC"! That album 4 me seems to be liked by P fans of an early 80's liking! To me it is good in places but it is not pop! Adn the title track is bull! Dig those Jehovah lyrics!


Well I find Now embaressing .Though I do really like TRC. The thing that suprises me most is that TGE is so well thought of and yet Emancipation is put down like a sack 'o' when I think its got some great songs on it (boring subject I know).I dont care for Limp but each to their own.
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Reply #18 posted 05/15/04 4:03pm

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richierich said:

thesexofit said:

At the time, it was very refreshing and we waited ages 4 this muther 2 come!

Very raw etc...not ashamed to play this to a grundge fan (I know it's not grunge..)!

I actaully think "Now" is ahead of it's time with its almost raw rap/metal melding sound! I know that Limp Biscuit and his rap/metal friends ain't popular no more but amybe prince was early on that one! Also the weird sample he uses at the beginning of track, reminds me of Limp too!

Muscially can't compare to "TRC"! That album 4 me seems to be liked by P fans of an early 80's liking! To me it is good in places but it is not pop! Adn the title track is bull! Dig those Jehovah lyrics!


Well I find Now embaressing .Though I do really like TRC. The thing that suprises me most is that TGE is so well thought of and yet Emancipation is put down like a sack 'o' when I think its got some great songs on it (boring subject I know).I dont care for Limp but each to their own.
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Reply #19 posted 05/15/04 4:06pm

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thesexofit said:

richierich said:



Well I find Now embaressing .Though I do really like TRC. The thing that suprises me most is that TGE is so well thought of and yet Emancipation is put down like a sack 'o' when I think its got some great songs on it (boring subject I know).I dont care for Limp but each to their own.



I Did not like limp biscuit either, but considering that "Rollin'" vid and song could not be avoided, I slowly noticed a simularity between a song like "Rollin'" and P's "Now"!

In fact, I only really think "Now" is average to me,but it is fun though!
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Reply #20 posted 05/15/04 4:19pm

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exactly! this album is OK..its better than D&P but songs like NOW and WE MARCH and BILLY JACK BITCH, P CONTROL..come on now....L-A-M-E![/quote]

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Now and BJB are some of the deepest funks cuts he's ever made, IMO, and Shh and Hate You two of his best slow jams. Most of it's thanks to Michael Bland,who shoulda been kept around at any cost. Funny, Dolphin and Gold are the only tracks I'm not crazy about, but otherwise, it's my favorite of that decade.
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Reply #21 posted 05/15/04 4:31pm

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DigitalGardin said:

I notice that everyone on here worships the GOLD EXPERIENCE album..I just cant get with it..other than "SHH!!", "Dolphin", "319", "Shy" and "I Hate You" the GOLD EXPERIENCE does nothing for me.....TRC is definitely a much better release than GOLD EXPERIENCE. What is everyone's fascination with this album? It reminds me of the album that shoulda been released after DIAMONDS AND PEARLS but before the Symbol album




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the gold experience is the bomb! i made a best of prince cd set last month and there were more gold experience tracks on than any other album, and it was totally unplanned, underestamated album in my view, LOUD with guitars and very little pop ballad crap.superb razz
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Reply #22 posted 05/15/04 4:38pm

Mazerati

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DigitalGardin said:

I notice that everyone on here worships the GOLD EXPERIENCE album..I just cant get with it..other than "SHH!!", "Dolphin", "319", "Shy" and "I Hate You" the GOLD EXPERIENCE does nothing for me.....TRC is definitely a much better release than GOLD EXPERIENCE. What is everyone's fascination with this album? It reminds me of the album that shoulda been released after DIAMONDS AND PEARLS but before the Symbol album


its a matter of taste i LOVE The Gold Experience and HATE The Rainbow Children(the 1 and only Prince i album i dont like btw) TRC is not my type of music..TGE is...but we have our own opinions and taste and thats why i feel music critics are totally useless
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Reply #23 posted 05/15/04 4:54pm

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richierich said:

thesexofit said:



I actaully think "Now" is ahead of it's time with its almost raw rap/metal melding sound! I know that Limp Biscuit and his rap/metal friends ain't popular no more but amybe prince was early on that one! Also the weird sample he uses at the beginning of track, reminds me of Limp too!

Muscially can't compare to "TRC"! That album 4 me seems to be liked by P fans of an early 80's liking! To me it is good in places but it is not pop! Adn the title track is bull! Dig those Jehovah lyrics!


Well I find Now embaressing .Though I do really like TRC. The thing that suprises me most is that TGE is so well thought of and yet Emancipation is put down like a sack 'o' when I think its got some great songs on it (boring subject I know).I dont care for Limp but each to their own.



"Now"on TGE was a great disappointment after hearing the bootleg version from Le Bataclan. So much more to it live.
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Reply #24 posted 05/15/04 5:40pm

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homeandmantel said:

This album sucks. period
the rainbow children sucks.

its retard music. nothing original,
maybe he started taking drugs or something, but almost everything since 87 is just plain retarded.

And for almost two decades you hang on to keep up with his almost everything retardation...
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #25 posted 05/15/04 6:00pm

homeandmantel

Supernova said:

homeandmantel said:

This album sucks. period
the rainbow children sucks.

its retard music. nothing original,
maybe he started taking drugs or something, but almost everything since 87 is just plain retarded.

And for almost two decades you hang on to keep up with his almost everything retardation...


Yea, i buy i lot of CD'd every year, i love good music, in every style, new & old
i love good music, i love the White Stripes new cd, i love Audioslaves new CD, i love Queens of the Stone age's, new cd i love Dido's new CD, i love a lot of new stuff and i love a lot of old stuff, and the old prince stuff is what i like.and yes because it doesnt sound retarded.
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Reply #26 posted 05/15/04 7:01pm

manci

NouveauDance said:[quote]It's a good solid batch of songs.

At the time, the whole name change thing, many of these songs on the LP were from that time 1993, and shortly after of course in 1994.

The whole name change thing, the fans that stuck around and DIDN'T get scared off by the apparent craziness of "changing" your name to an unpronouncable symbol - I think we felt rewarded/justified in sticking with Prince because there seemed to be a renewed lust/energy in the music in the songs he was recording during/after the name change.

These songs make up Come, TGE and the tracks on CB from this era - Interactive, Acknowledge Me, yadda, yadda.

The band was excellent, focused, the MC Hammer rap fluff of Tony M had gone, and it was exciting!

Hearing them on bootleg only for, what a year, (almost 2?) made the songs on TGE seem like an insider thrill - Prince, that crazy pop star who used to be cool, he'd lost it, but here were these batch of killer NEW songs that were only available on bootleg.

Then the tour of course, hearing this unreleased NEW music played live, those of us who had the bootlegs, it was, again, exciting!

quote]

Wow... My thoughts EXACTLY!
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Reply #27 posted 05/15/04 8:17pm

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Mazerati said:



its a matter of taste i LOVE The Gold Experience and HATE The Rainbow Children(the 1 and only Prince i album i dont like btw) TRC is not my type of music..TGE is...but we have our own opinions and taste and thats why i feel music critics are totally useless


Agreed 100%. At this point in time TGE is in my top 3 fave Prince cds... TRC is in the bottom 5, easily. smile
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Reply #28 posted 05/15/04 8:19pm

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DigitalGardin said:

I notice that everyone on here worships the GOLD EXPERIENCE album..I just cant get with it..other than "SHH!!", "Dolphin", "319", "Shy" and "I Hate You" the GOLD EXPERIENCE does nothing for me.....TRC is definitely a much better release than GOLD EXPERIENCE. What is everyone's fascination with this album? It reminds me of the album that shoulda been released after DIAMONDS AND PEARLS but before the Symbol album



GOOD QUESTION! TGE is weak. Three good tracks and that's it. Don't get the hype, TGE is one of Prince's more mediocre efforts.
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Reply #29 posted 05/15/04 11:50pm

Dazza

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I've always tried to work out why I never listen to this album. I always go back to COME instead. I just think the whole thing is bombastic, there's no subtlety to it. The best song on it is SHY, but everyone raves about EYE HATE U, which is just fucking appalling!

AWFUL ALBUM TITLE
WORST OPENING TRACK EVER
TERRIBLE VERSION OF TMBGITW
BEST SONGS MISSING (DAYS OF WILD & ACKNOWLEDGE ME)

The album would have been better with songs from COME & perhaps the inclusion of WHAT'S MY NAME (far more interesting musically)

I suggest:

1. WHAT'S MY NAME
2. DAYS OF WILD
3. SHY
4. ACKNOWLEDE ME
5. SPACE
6. RACE
7. NOW
8. SHHH
9. PAPA
10. DOLPHIN
11. DARK
12. GOLD

Howzat?
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