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Would a new single/video help Musicology's sales now? Do you think that a new single/video help Musicology's sales now? It seems Prince/Sony put everything into the 1st Single "Musicology" and then Prince put a stop to the Sony version of the single. A classic Prince-bone-headed-move. It reminds me of when he got "bored" with Sign"O" the Times. He stopped promoting the album, his BIGGEST mistake ever.
I think they need (Prince R U LISTENING??!?!?!) put out a great video with the BEST possible single. I do not think it should be "On the Couch", or "Call My Name". Let's face it as good as some of Prince's ballads are, they have not been well received in the general public's ears. I think if they get an A-list director and do a funny video to "Illusion, Coma, Pimp, Circumstance". I think it's something that's musically different and it would be a video that would get someone's attention. But as long as it takes to get a video made and on the air, It looks like there will be no more videos made for this LP. What do you think? "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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chookalana said: It seems Prince/Sony put everything into the 1st Single "Musicology" and then Prince put a stop to the Sony version of the single. A classic Prince-bone-headed-move.
Not sure why you conclude that it was Prince who put a stop to anything. A new/well made video couldn't hurt, but everyone here has their own opinion about which song it should be. (Pretty much every song should be the next single according to the org, except LOTP.) ICP&C would be fine I guess, but most "funny" music videos aren't really all that funny imo, so I won't shed any tears if they don't choose that one. I think it's too soon to think that Prince has abandoned the project. They have more than enough time to film a video during the tour's hiatus. _____ [This message was edited Mon May 10 17:56:46 2004 by Universaluv] | |
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LOT OF CRITIC LIKE COUCH SONG CALL MY NAME EASY SELL ON ARR AND BEE P o o |/, P o o |\ | |
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POOK said: LOT OF CRITIC LIKE COUCH SONG CALL MY NAME EASY SELL ON ARR AND BEE Where the fuck can I buy a pook? A chillin' monkey with good taste in music...beats the hell out of Marcell from "Friends" if you ask me. Rock on pook, you banana loving freak, you. | |
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FunkiestWhiteBoy said: POOK said: LOT OF CRITIC LIKE COUCH SONG CALL MY NAME EASY SELL ON ARR AND BEE Where the fuck can I buy a pook? A chillin' monkey with good taste in music...beats the hell out of Marcell from "Friends" if you ask me. Rock on pook, you banana loving freak, you. I didn't hear anything about Prince scrapping further publicity for the CD. Actually, I was just "pushing" the CD to my next door neighbor. It's a good CD. I mean, I think all the songs are good, except for IMC&P and Cinnamon Girl, other than those tunes, I think the CD is hot. I really think Prince has enough time to do another video and he should. Besides, when "Around The World In A Day" debuted, Prince said he wouldn't do any singles or videos for that LP, however, we all know the story with that one. Give it a chance. He will deliver if he wants to. GeSmi1 Baby, Baby, Baby...what's it going 2 b? | |
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FunkiestWhiteBoy said: POOK said: LOT OF CRITIC LIKE COUCH SONG CALL MY NAME EASY SELL ON ARR AND BEE Where the fuck can I buy a pook? A chillin' monkey with good taste in music...beats the hell out of Marcell from "Friends" if you ask me. Rock on pook, you banana loving freak, you. I agree! I love Pook! | |
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POOK said: LOT OF CRITIC LIKE COUCH SONG CALL MY NAME EASY SELL ON ARR AND BEE Well, like it or not the album is dropping in sales already. If it was not for the concert sales, it would be almost be off the charts. I never hear it on Minneapolis radio either. "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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YES. They should release another song and video soon. That's why Usher & everybody else is on top, so if they can do it, Prince VERY WELL can too. [This message was edited Mon May 10 21:28:54 2004 by Starmist7] | |
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Prince: Ooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm a musical genius la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, hey Columbia can you promote my album so I can be cool again?
COlumbia Exec: Sure, Prince. I really respect your music and I think with your core fan base and a smart ad campaign we can really have something. A YEAR LATER. Prince: Oooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm kind of cool again. Now that I have everyone's attention I'm gonna jump ship and fuck mani in the seclusion of my mansion in Toronto, la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, I shouldn't have to do more than make one video and release one single...you people don't know talent when you see it f-u!! Columbia Exec: Why don't we make another video? Maybe something live from a performance coupled with an album track, kind of like the old meeting the new. Then for the live track we can have a live video and for the ALbum cut we can make a great little narrative video. Prince: No. I don't need to. I am a musical genius. DId Stevie Wonder do Videos? Did Hendrix? CE: Uh, first of all, Stevie did do videos and Hendrix was too fried to do anything but play the guitar and choke on his own vomit. Prince: *whispering to Mani* Mani: Prince says your gay. [This message was edited Mon May 10 21:46:51 2004 by Spanky] I wish u heaven | |
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Spanky said: Prince: Ooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm a musical genius la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, hey Columbia can you promote my album so I can be cool again?
COlumbia Exec: Sure, Prince. I really respect your music and I think with your core fan base and a smart ad campaign we can really have something. A YEAR LATER. Prince: Oooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm kind of cool again. Now that I have everyone's attention I'm gonna jump ship and fuck mani in the seclusion of my mansion in Toronto, la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, I shouldn't have to do more than make one video and release one single...you people don't know talent when you see it f-u!! Columbia Exec: Why don't we make another video? Maybe something live from a performance coupled with an album track, kind of like the old meeting the new. Then for the live track we can have a live video and for the ALbum cut we can make a great little narrative video. Prince: No. I don't need to. I am a musical genius. DId Stevie Wonder do Videos? Did Hendrix? CE: Uh, first of all, Stevie did do videos and Hendrix was too fried to do anything but play the guitar and choke on his own vomit. Prince: *whispering to Mani* Mani: Prince says your gay. [This message was edited Mon May 10 21:46:51 2004 by Spanky] ...:...Must I become naked?
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why does it need help?
his new album and tour have been widely praised, he seems to be having fun, what difference does it make if he's "on top"? doesn't seem relevant. it's not a contest, it's art. "i've seen the mountain top and it ain't wahat you said" "I've seen the top and it's just a dream Big cars and women and fancy clothes Will save your face but it won't save your soul" | |
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chookalana said: POOK said: LOT OF CRITIC LIKE COUCH SONG CALL MY NAME EASY SELL ON ARR AND BEE Well, like it or not the album is dropping in sales already. If it was not for the concert sales, it would be almost be off the charts. I never hear it on Minneapolis radio either. man do u have BAD information Musicology is STILL in the top 10 and this week after about 50% of the sales counted it has sold over 45,000 copies so it should almost do 90,000 this week! and thats WITHOUT THE CONCERT CD'S added yet and that will only be a small percentage drop from the previous week! i agree there needs to be a new video soon but the album is doing great right now ..... CHART DATE: 05/10/2004 LAST UPDATE: 05/10/2004 18:55:47 NOW IN: 52.67% LW TW artist / album label power index 2 1 USHER LAFACE/ZLG 136,911 CONFESSIONS 1 2 D12 SHADY/INTERSCOPE 104,708 D12 WORLD -- 3 PETEY PABLO JIVE/ZLG 68,964 STILL WRITING IN MY DIARY: 2ND.. 7 4 HOOBASTANK ISLAND/IDJ 54,015 THE REASON 3 5 DIANA KRALL VERVE 50,233 GIRL IN THE OTHER ROOM 4 6 MARIO WINANS BAD BOY/UNIVERSAL 46,799 HURT NO MORE 5 7 PRINCE COLUMBIA/CRG 45,017 MUSICOLOGY 12 8 NORAH JONES BLUE NOTE 43,144 FEELS LIKE HOME 18 9 JOSH GROBAN 143/REPRISE 37,271 CLOSER 9 10 EVANESCENCE WIND-UP 35,338 FALLEN -- 11 PATTI LABELLE DEF SOUL/IDJ 35,137 TIMELESS JOURNEY 6 12 NOW 15 CAPITOL 34,409 VARIOUS 11 13 GUNS N'ROSES GEFFEN 32,756 GREATEST HITS 16 14 KENNY CHESNEY BNA 31,628 WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN 10 15 OUTKAST LAFACE/ZLG 31,622 SPEAKERBOXXX/THE LOVE BELOW 8 16 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/IDJ 30,210 COLLEGE DROPOUT 14 17 JESSICA SIMPSON COLUMBIA/CRG 26,921 IN THIS SKIN 23 18 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 26,049 THE DIARY OF ALICIA KEYS -- 19 TOTALLY HITS 2004 BMG ENTERTAINMENT 25,715 VARIOUS -- 20 KIMBERLEY LOCKE CURB 24,847 ONE LOVE -- 21 FLAW REPUBLIC/UNIVERSAL 24,449 ENDANGERED SPECIES 22 22 BLACK EYED PEAS A&M/INTERSCOPE 23,303 ELEPHUNK -- 23 CARLY SIMON BMG HERITAGE 22,907 REFLECTIONS: CARLEY SIMON'S... 17 24 MAROON 5 OCTONE/J RECORDS/RMG 22,384 SONGS ABOUT JANE 15 25 LIL' FLIP COLUMBIA/CRG 22,256 U GOTTA FEEL ME 29 26 MODEST MOUSE EPIC 21,655 GOOD NEWS FOR PEOPLE WHO LOVE... 19 27 TWISTA ATLANTIC/ATL G 21,136 KAMIKAZE 27 28 JET ELEKTRA/EEG 20,227 GET BORN 43 29 ALAN JACKSON ARISTA NASHVILLE 19,343 GREATEST HITS VOL.2 33 30 JAY-Z ROC-A-FELLA/IDJ 19,302 THE BLACK ALBUM -- 31 LEE ANN WOMACK MCA NASHVILLE 18,758 GREATEST HITS 13 32 AMERICAN IDOL VOL.3 GREATEST... RCA/RMG 18,512 VARIOUS 28 33 YELLOWCARD CAPITOL 18,409 OCEAN AVENUE 25 34 LORETTA LYNN INTERSCOPE 18,190 VAN LEAR ROSE 32 35 BEYONCE COLUMBIA/CRG 17,660 DANGEROUSLY IN LOVE 30 36 THE PUNISHER WIND-UP 17,452 SOUNDTRACK 38 37 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL 17,347 GOLDEN ROAD 20 38 GHOSTFACE DEF JAM/IDJ 16,982 PRETTY TONEY ALBUM 35 39 BRITNEY SPEARS JIVE/ZLG 16,531 IN THE ZONE 34 40 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER/IDJ 16,202 LONG ROAD 24 41 J-KWON SO SO DEF/ZLG 16,012 HOOD HOP -- 42 LIONEL RICHIE ISLAND/IDJ 15,503 JUST FOR YOU 40 43 TOBY KEITH DREAMWORKS NASHVILLE 15,491 SHOCK'N Y'ALL 26 44 ERIC CLAPTON REPRISE 15,462 ME AND MR. JOHNSON -- 45 LUTHER VANDROSS J RECORDS/RMG 15,041 DANCE WITH MY FATHER 39 46 JOSS STONE S-CURVE/EMI 14,977 SOUL SESSIONS -- 47 LOS LONELY BOYS EPIC 14,752 LOS LONELY BOYS -- 48 SEVENDUST TVT 13,626 SOUTHSIDE DOUBLE-WIDE ACOUSTIC.. 21 49 SHERYL CROW A&M/INTERSCOPE 13,609 VERY BEST OF 45 50 NORAH JONES BLUE NOTE 12,800 COME AWAY WITH ME Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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Spanky said: Prince: Ooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm a musical genius la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, hey Columbia can you promote my album so I can be cool again?
COlumbia Exec: Sure, Prince. I really respect your music and I think with your core fan base and a smart ad campaign we can really have something. A YEAR LATER. Prince: Oooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm kind of cool again. Now that I have everyone's attention I'm gonna jump ship and fuck mani in the seclusion of my mansion in Toronto, la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, I shouldn't have to do more than make one video and release one single...you people don't know talent when you see it f-u!! Columbia Exec: Why don't we make another video? Maybe something live from a performance coupled with an album track, kind of like the old meeting the new. Then for the live track we can have a live video and for the ALbum cut we can make a great little narrative video. Prince: No. I don't need to. I am a musical genius. DId Stevie Wonder do Videos? Did Hendrix? CE: Uh, first of all, Stevie did do videos and Hendrix was too fried to do anything but play the guitar and choke on his own vomit. Prince: *whispering to Mani* Mani: Prince says your gay. [This message was edited Mon May 10 21:46:51 2004 by Spanky] "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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The success of the album thus far is born of so many things other than the title track, like the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, the Grammy performance, the tour, and a shitload of promotion from Sony and appearances by Prince. If he keeps this single out there too long, it's going to kill this album. Get something else out there, and fast. | |
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>>If it was not for the concert sales, it would be almost be off the charts.<<
huh? It's Top 10 in sales , without concert sales factored in | |
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ultrraviolette said: Spanky said: Prince: Ooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm a musical genius la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, hey Columbia can you promote my album so I can be cool again?
COlumbia Exec: Sure, Prince. I really respect your music and I think with your core fan base and a smart ad campaign we can really have something. A YEAR LATER. Prince: Oooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm kind of cool again. Now that I have everyone's attention I'm gonna jump ship and fuck mani in the seclusion of my mansion in Toronto, la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, I shouldn't have to do more than make one video and release one single...you people don't know talent when you see it f-u!! Columbia Exec: Why don't we make another video? Maybe something live from a performance coupled with an album track, kind of like the old meeting the new. Then for the live track we can have a live video and for the ALbum cut we can make a great little narrative video. Prince: No. I don't need to. I am a musical genius. DId Stevie Wonder do Videos? Did Hendrix? CE: Uh, first of all, Stevie did do videos and Hendrix was too fried to do anything but play the guitar and choke on his own vomit. Prince: *whispering to Mani* Mani: Prince says your gay. [This message was edited Mon May 10 21:46:51 2004 by Spanky] Thanks for the love. I'm just being real. I wish u heaven | |
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Spanky said: Prince: Ooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm a musical genius la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, hey Columbia can you promote my album so I can be cool again?
COlumbia Exec: Sure, Prince. I really respect your music and I think with your core fan base and a smart ad campaign we can really have something. A YEAR LATER. Prince: Oooooh, look at me I'm Prince, I'm kind of cool again. Now that I have everyone's attention I'm gonna jump ship and fuck mani in the seclusion of my mansion in Toronto, la la la! Usher sucks, music sucks, the record industry sucks, I shouldn't have to do more than make one video and release one single...you people don't know talent when you see it f-u!! Columbia Exec: Why don't we make another video? Maybe something live from a performance coupled with an album track, kind of like the old meeting the new. Then for the live track we can have a live video and for the ALbum cut we can make a great little narrative video. Prince: No. I don't need to. I am a musical genius. DId Stevie Wonder do Videos? Did Hendrix? CE: Uh, first of all, Stevie did do videos and Hendrix was too fried to do anything but play the guitar and choke on his own vomit. Prince: *whispering to Mani* Mani: Prince says your gay. [This message was edited Mon May 10 21:46:51 2004 by Spanky] | |
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you need to request the song and get it more airp0lay
here is the list of all the radio stations http://www.justinhasit.co...radio.html help me guys we need to get into charts | |
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newpower99 said: >>If it was not for the concert sales, it would be almost be off the charts.<<
huh? It's Top 10 in sales , without concert sales factored in Yes, but after only three weeks, it prooves that it has no staying power. "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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chookalana said: newpower99 said: >>If it was not for the concert sales, it would be almost be off the charts.<<
huh? It's Top 10 in sales , without concert sales factored in Yes, but after only three weeks, it prooves that it has no staying power. u need a hit single to have stayin power!! rave only did 81k in 1st week entered at #18 why dont u guys also call radio stations and get him back on radio help me i dont want to be the only one calling | |
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I don't really care if it's a success or not. I love it and to me that's all that matters. Sure, it's good to see others enjoying his muisc again but it don't affect me who listens to it. | |
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chookalana said: newpower99 said: >>If it was not for the concert sales, it would be almost be off the charts.<<
huh? It's Top 10 in sales , without concert sales factored in Yes, but after only three weeks, it prooves that it has no staying power. no staying power? have u ever followed any of Princes 90's albums on the charts? usually after 3 weeks they are almost out of the top 100...and the Rainbow Children peaked at #108 and was only in the top #200 for 2 weeks [This message was edited Tue May 11 16:30:45 2004 by Mazerati] Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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chookalana said: newpower99 said: >>If it was not for the concert sales, it would be almost be off the charts.<<
huh? It's Top 10 in sales , without concert sales factored in Yes, but after only three weeks, it prooves that it has no staying power. Three weeks, and still in the top 10 BEFORE concerts are figured...that's inarguably a lot more staying power than he's had recently...or many other recently. It's not gonna do Usher numbers, but it can already pretty much be called a "minor" hit. It'll go to major if a single catches on. | |
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Much of radio may be ignoring the first single, but the video channnels have not. It's still on all the time.
Plus, the video has been available for download on MTV, VH1, AOL, & Yahoo, and probably others. I think the video's heavy rotation is helping to offset radio ignoring it. Anyway, you don't need P to tell to you that most radio stations are beyond worthless. Here in NYC, it would probably surprise many to know that there is not one alternative rock station. There was one years ago with a weak signal, but it went adult contemporary. Conmmercial radio on the "people's airwaves" , with it's lame dj's, commercials, and lack of choice is thankfully being rendered more irrelevant each day with the availability of satellite radio, internet radio (aol,msn. etc) digital cable (plenty of commercial and dj free stations there), and the wide availability of music on the internet in general. Good riddance! | |
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Mazerati said: chookalana said: Yes, but after only three weeks, it prooves that it has no staying power. no staying power? have u ever followed any of Princes 90's albums on the charts? usually after 3 weeks they are almost out of the top 100...and the Rainbow Children peaked at #108 and was only in the top #200 for 2 weeks [This message was edited Tue May 11 16:30:45 2004 by Mazerati] Yes, I been a HUGE fan since 1982. I was 10. That's my point Prince's albums always go on the charts and die a quick "chart death". It's a good thing he's put out the number of albums that he does. Do we want to get into the SINGLES he's released and NEVER HIT THE TOP 40 ??!??! "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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chookalana said: Do you think that a new single/video help Musicology's sales now? It seems Prince/Sony put everything into the 1st Single "Musicology" and then Prince put a stop to the Sony version of the single. A classic Prince-bone-headed-move. It reminds me of when he got "bored" with Sign"O" the Times. He stopped promoting the album, his BIGGEST mistake ever.
I think they need (Prince R U LISTENING??!?!?!) put out a great video with the BEST possible single. I do not think it should be "On the Couch", or "Call My Name". Let's face it as good as some of Prince's ballads are, they have not been well received in the general public's ears. I think if they get an A-list director and do a funny video to "Illusion, Coma, Pimp, Circumstance". I think it's something that's musically different and it would be a video that would get someone's attention. But as long as it takes to get a video made and on the air, It looks like there will be no more videos made for this LP. What do you think? I agree ICPC could make a great video, but Prince would have to make something more than a performance video, which he never seems to do. Check this song out at:
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andyman91 said: chookalana said: Do you think that a new single/video help Musicology's sales now? It seems Prince/Sony put everything into the 1st Single "Musicology" and then Prince put a stop to the Sony version of the single. A classic Prince-bone-headed-move. It reminds me of when he got "bored" with Sign"O" the Times. He stopped promoting the album, his BIGGEST mistake ever.
I think they need (Prince R U LISTENING??!?!?!) put out a great video with the BEST possible single. I do not think it should be "On the Couch", or "Call My Name". Let's face it as good as some of Prince's ballads are, they have not been well received in the general public's ears. I think if they get an A-list director and do a funny video to "Illusion, Coma, Pimp, Circumstance". I think it's something that's musically different and it would be a video that would get someone's attention. But as long as it takes to get a video made and on the air, It looks like there will be no more videos made for this LP. What do you think? I agree ICPC could make a great video, but Prince would have to make something more than a performance video, which he never seems to do. Prince says your gay. I wish u heaven | |
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