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Thread started 05/11/04 9:40am

tritoncin

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why does SOOT ...?

Hi orgers

I thought my SOOT copy was the only one with a terrible quality sound...

Now I just read another orger complaining about the same...

Does anybody know why this album, being so good, sounds so bad???

Wasn't there any technology at that time to give it a decent treatment????

Was it intentionally?

If so, why??

confused
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Reply #1 posted 05/11/04 9:42am

Universaluv

tritoncin said:

Hi orgers

I thought my SOOT copy was the only one with a terrible quality sound...

Now I just read another orger complaining about the same...

Does anybody know why this album, being so good, sounds so bad???

Wasn't there any technology at that time to give it a decent treatment????

Was it intentionally?

If so, why??

confused


You probably need to dust all the ash off of it and get rid of all that "soot". Still "SOTT's" quality isn't that great either wink

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Reply #2 posted 05/11/04 9:44am

Handclapsfinga
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Universaluv said:

You probably need to dust all the ash off of it and get rid of all that "soot". Still "SOTT's" quality isn't that great either wink

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[This message was edited Tue May 11 9:44:33 2004 by Universaluv]

you beat me to it.
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Reply #3 posted 05/11/04 9:45am

Universaluv

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Universaluv said:

You probably need to dust all the ash off of it and get rid of all that "soot". Still "SOTT's" quality isn't that great either wink

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[This message was edited Tue May 11 9:44:33 2004 by Universaluv]

you beat me to it.


You know I was typing real fast too wink
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/04 9:51am

Marrk

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tritoncin said:

Hi orgers

I thought my SOOT copy was the only one with a terrible quality sound...

Now I just read another orger complaining about the same...

Does anybody know why this album, being so good, sounds so bad???

Wasn't there any technology at that time to give it a decent treatment????

Was it intentionally?

If so, why??

confused


On CD It's just mastered real quiet. I've no idea why. It is his quietist album by far. Somebody back then needed firing.

Nothing wrong with my vinyl though, that sounds great.
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Reply #5 posted 05/11/04 9:52am

OdysseyMiles

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Universaluv said:

You probably need to dust all the ash off of it and get rid of all that "soot". Still "SOTT's" quality isn't that great either wink

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[This message was edited Tue May 11 9:44:33 2004 by Universaluv]

you beat me to it.


Crap!! Ya beat me too. mad
Ah, what the hell:


Dang blasted SOOT!
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Reply #6 posted 05/11/04 9:56am

Marrk

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Reply #7 posted 05/11/04 9:59am

Anxiety

i prefer the sound on TEG, though ATTWAD and CWICNPOOP are pretty decent to my ears.
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Reply #8 posted 05/11/04 10:08am

OdysseyMiles

Anxiety said:

i prefer the sound on TEG, though ATTWAD and CWICNPOOP are pretty decent to my ears.


falloff falloff falloff
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/04 10:24am

KingSausage

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I have three theories:

1) Little magical elves have invaded your disc, putting their magical little cookie crumbs on the information layer. This causes what is called "delamination," or "CD rot."

2) It was that damn sasquatch again.

3) It was a crappy, early CD produced in the Reagan adminstration, for fuck's sake.
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Reply #10 posted 05/11/04 12:14pm

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The reason SOTT sounds like that (and its not that bad!) is because it was not mastered for cd... ever! It was mastered for pressing to vinyl, and the specs are different for that, and they sound good on vinyl after the physical process of making the record.
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Reply #11 posted 05/11/04 12:41pm

tritoncin

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ufoclub said:

The reason SOTT sounds like that (and its not that bad!) is because it was not mastered for cd... ever! It was mastered for pressing to vinyl, and the specs are different for that, and they sound good on vinyl after the physical process of making the record.



At last a real answer...

Thanx UFOCLUB!!
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Reply #12 posted 05/11/04 2:00pm

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tritoncin said:

ufoclub said:

The reason SOTT sounds like that (and its not that bad!) is because it was not mastered for cd... ever! It was mastered for pressing to vinyl, and the specs are different for that, and they sound good on vinyl after the physical process of making the record.



At last a real answer...

Thanx UFOCLUB!!



"At last a real answer?" Hey, don't dismiss the sasquatch!!! mad
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/04 2:23pm

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The reason is that pre-Batman were all analog. From Batman on it was "AAD," or digitally mastered.
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Reply #14 posted 05/11/04 2:31pm

tritoncin

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KingSausage said:

tritoncin said:




At last a real answer...

Thanx UFOCLUB!!



"At last a real answer?" Hey, don't dismiss the sasquatch!!! mad


ok wink falloff


The reason is that pre-Batman were all analog. From Batman on it was "AAD," or digitally mastered.


Yeah, but even For You sounds better... The volume on SOOT is really low and it has some noticeable hiss...
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/04 2:34pm

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sro100 said:

The reason is that pre-Batman were all analog. From Batman on it was "AAD," or digitally mastered.

Well maybe someone went back and did ATWIAD and Parade over because they sound better but were released before SOTT. Even Lovesexy sounds better. I'm not complainin tho, I just crank it up!
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Reply #16 posted 05/11/04 5:24pm

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It's an 18 year old cd.
Ever put new cd's in your player with old ones and hit random. You won't hear one song and the next will blast you out of your chair.
Maybe someday they'll remaster it.
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/04 6:22pm

flipwilson

ufoclub said:

The reason SOTT sounds like that (and its not that bad!) is because it was not mastered for cd... ever! It was mastered for pressing to vinyl, and the specs are different for that, and they sound good on vinyl after the physical process of making the record.


That's the absolute truth you just spoke - the vinyl version of SOTT sounds fantastic, the CD sounds anemic.
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/04 8:10pm

Novabreaker

tritoncin said:

Yeah, but even For You sounds better... The volume on SOOT is really low and it has some noticeable hiss...


It always worries me that even if people are corrected about something they keep using their misconceptions anyway - listen buddy, it is not "SOOT" it is SOTT - as in Sign "O" The Times. Where did you get that extra "O" anyway?

Besides, that hiss as you would call it could be just as well caused by your lousy hi-fi, which has really bad noise levels when the volume needs to be cranked for albums that were mastered before the days of modern limiting technology. There is nothing wrong with the sound quality of the album, it's just not sparkly and shiny as all the new releases. Live with it, it's how music should sound - as opposed to that overtly distroted square sound of today.
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Reply #19 posted 05/11/04 8:44pm

13inchshoe

Technology!.All first edition cd's usually sound bad today.
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Reply #20 posted 05/11/04 9:00pm

Starmist7

...that's good to know because I just ordered my copy today and would've been just as puzzeld...
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Reply #21 posted 05/11/04 9:33pm

tritoncin

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Novabreaker said:

tritoncin said:

Yeah, but even For You sounds better... The volume on SOOT is really low and it has some noticeable hiss...


It always worries me that even if people are corrected about something they keep using their misconceptions anyway - listen buddy, it is not "SOOT" it is SOTT - as in Sign "O" The Times. Where did you get that extra "O" anyway?



So sorry for the "O" instead of the "T"...

You shouldn't worry so much about that. chillout

By the way it was not a "misconception" it was a "misspelling" or an "metathesis" mistake, you know that. I'll try not to use the acronyms people use here next time.

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Reply #22 posted 05/11/04 11:37pm

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tritoncin said:

Novabreaker said:



It always worries me that even if people are corrected about something they keep using their misconceptions anyway - listen buddy, it is not "SOOT" it is SOTT - as in Sign "O" The Times. Where did you get that extra "O" anyway?



So sorry for the "O" instead of the "T"...

You shouldn't worry so much about that. chillout

By the way it was not a "misconception" it was a "misspelling" or an "metathesis" mistake, you know that. I'll try not to use the acronyms people use here next time.

duh



i know misspelling is NOT that serious..its just a forum guys got damn.

Anyway, i just bought it on CD 3 weeks ago. I turned up the sound on all the songs on my computer and reburned them. Sounds good now. I even added extra photos in the booklet.

The worst sound CD? HAS GOT to be "The Time" OH GOD! The Stick is like.....hardly hearable
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Reply #23 posted 05/11/04 11:41pm

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I love it on vinyl!!
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