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Thread started 05/11/04 1:34am

FunnyWayOfStop
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Prince Albums that flow/don't flow

Musicology, RC, Parade, PR & Dirty Mind are the only Prince albums where all the songs flow and fit 2 gether perfectly and in a real good sequence.

The rest of the albums 4 me seem kinda jumbled up neutral

I mean, how can U go from Do Me Baby in Private Joy or 319 in2 shy in2 Billy Jack Bitch. I mean don't get me wrong their all fucking great songs, each and every last 1 of them. I just think Prince has never been 2 good in positioning his songs on his albums or choosing which songs go 2gether. Extrodinary & Adore are crying 2 be 2gether on an album.
I always have to re-arrange albums and sequences so the playlist sounds better with Prince. sad

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Reply #1 posted 05/11/04 1:42am

mrdespues

Here's what I think:

Albums that flow well:

Dirty Mind
Purple Rain
Musicology
The Rainbow Children
Parade
Diamonds and Pearls
Come
Batman

Albums that flow ok/pretty good:

Sign O the Times
Lovesexy
The Black Album
1999
For You

Albums that don't flow that well at all:

prince
The Gold Experience
Around the World In A Day
Controversy
Prince

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Of course there are others to mention....but those spring to mind first.

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[This message was edited Tue May 11 1:43:44 2004 by mrdespues]
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Reply #2 posted 05/11/04 1:50am

thesexofit

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I ain't bothered by sequencing but some albums should be mentioned:-


1)For me Parades track sequencing on "Life can be so nice" and "Venis de milo" is shit! What the fuck was prince thinking!

2) "Grafitti brdge" (album) is amazing in terms of flow I think, though there are guests on the album so by some this may not count

3) "Diamonds and pearls"- "Jughead" followed by "money dont matter tonight"! Not good 4 me!

4) " The hits (all 3)" are terribally sequenced but greatest hits usually are arn't they?

It's very hard to sequence an album and if, like the ye olden days u bought albums on cassette, then the sequencing could be vital to ur overall enjoyment of an album! U could easily overlook certain songs because u have to wind the tape 4 miles to get their! I remember when some albums had a Ballad side and a dance side on cassette! Bad move as then all the songs played next to each other sound the same thus i would grow bord by the album! Cassettes sucked bigtime didn't they!
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Reply #3 posted 05/11/04 4:04am

FunnyWayOfStop
pinTheJuice

I hear that, hell yeah...

I mean just go and listed 2 the Rave album from this

13. I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore
14. Silly Game
15. Strange But True
16. Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do

It just sounds so jumbled like he was rushing or just pressed 'random record' on2 the master or something confused
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/04 4:25am

ThataintFunky

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FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said:


I mean, how can U go from Do Me Baby in Private Joy.


Hello ..... Controversy is released on vinyl !!!!!

so you've got two sides:
Side A ends with "Do me, Baby"
Side B starts with "Private Joy"

You should judge the track-listings from the albums until Graffiti Bridge as an A and B-side concept!!!!
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Reply #5 posted 05/11/04 4:42am

FunnyWayOfStop
pinTheJuice

ThataintFunky

G disbelief how can i break this 2 U gently hmmm

STOP GIVING SUCH A BIG FUCK (Prince doesn't even know that U, Ur Mamma or Ur Mamma's Mamma exists) chill dude, it's not that important
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Reply #6 posted 05/11/04 4:43am

FunnyWayOfStop
pinTheJuice

But Ur right though sad
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Reply #7 posted 05/11/04 4:50am

monte

ThataintFunky said:

FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said:


I mean, how can U go from Do Me Baby in Private Joy.


Hello ..... Controversy is released on vinyl !!!!!

so you've got two sides:
Side A ends with "Do me, Baby"
Side B starts with "Private Joy"

You should judge the track-listings from the albums until Graffiti Bridge as an A and B-side concept!!!!



You are so right!!
It is so much better to listen to these albums keeping that in mind. I prefer vinyl for this reason alone.
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Reply #8 posted 05/11/04 5:06am

ThataintFunky

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FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said:

ThataintFunky

G disbelief how can i break this 2 U gently hmmm

STOP GIVING SUCH A BIG FUCK (Prince doesn't even know that U, Ur Mamma or Ur Mamma's Mamma exists) chill dude, it's not that important


I never mean to be rude to any orger ... maybe I'm direct in my answers .....
But you should keep in mind you're discussing in your own language ... I'm not.

By the way: Prince don't mean much to me .... it's the music that counts ....
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Reply #9 posted 05/11/04 5:57am

FunnyWayOfStop
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Well that told me nod
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Reply #10 posted 05/11/04 10:07am

KingSausage

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NPS and NEWS flow very well....out of my ass and into the toilet!!!! eek
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
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Reply #11 posted 05/11/04 11:08am

crenshaw

I recently listened to a version of the symbol album (1992) on vinyl, and was amazed at how much better "the flow" (not the song) was in contrast to the CD version. It was an eye opening experience-- this had always been an album that seemd pretty jumbled to me, but listening to it side A to side B to side C to side D broke it up very nicely and made it a unique and delightful listening experience. As a result, the album has jumped up on my list of favorite Prince albums. It is very good.
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Reply #12 posted 05/11/04 11:16am

BorisFishpaw

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albums that DON'T flow very well...

CONTROVERSY
Do Me Baby should definitely be final track on side 2. Also it seems like it's trying to
mirror the running order of Dirty Mind, but it just doesn't work very well.

AROUND THE WORLD IN A DAY
I think Prince deliberately sequenced this album in an awkward way to try and make it
less accessible. 3rd track in is way too early on the album for all that weirdness that is the
intro to Condition Of The Heart.

RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC
It just seems like a random selection of tracks, no flow at all!
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Reply #13 posted 05/11/04 11:20am

endorphin74

ThataintFunky said:

FunnyWayOfStoppinTheJuice said:

ThataintFunky

G disbelief how can i break this 2 U gently hmmm

STOP GIVING SUCH A BIG FUCK (Prince doesn't even know that U, Ur Mamma or Ur Mamma's Mamma exists) chill dude, it's not that important


I never mean to be rude to any orger ... maybe I'm direct in my answers .....
But you should keep in mind you're discussing in your own language ... I'm not.

By the way: Prince don't mean much to me .... it's the music that counts ....


I didn't think your post was rude, just a very valid point...perhaps the bold came off as yelling though smile
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Reply #14 posted 05/11/04 11:22am

endorphin74

crenshaw said:

I recently listened to a version of the symbol album (1992) on vinyl, and was amazed at how much better "the flow" (not the song) was in contrast to the CD version. It was an eye opening experience-- this had always been an album that seemd pretty jumbled to me, but listening to it side A to side B to side C to side D broke it up very nicely and made it a unique and delightful listening experience. As a result, the album has jumped up on my list of favorite Prince albums. It is very good.


I've never had this on vinyl, which I can only guess would make it better. Still, I LOVE the flow of this CD. In my book, I rank it with Disintegration (by the Cure) as one of the most cohesive albums I've heard. The songs make sense together to me, and move towards a rockin end!
[This message was edited Tue May 11 11:22:53 2004 by endorphin74]
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Reply #15 posted 05/11/04 11:27am

ThataintFunky

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BorisFishpaw said:

albums that DON'T flow very well...

CONTROVERSY
Do Me Baby should definitely be final track on side 2. Also it seems like it's trying to
mirror the running order of Dirty Mind, but it just doesn't work very well.

AROUND THE WORLD IN A DAY
I think Prince deliberately sequenced this album in an awkward way to try and make it
less accessible. 3rd track in is way too early on the album for all that weirdness that is the
intro to Condition Of The Heart.

RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC
It just seems like a random selection of tracks, no flow at all!

I like the way Controversy is tracked:
Side A is the brilliant side
Side B is the lesser side.
Controversy is a lesser album, stuck between the two masterpieces "Dirty Mind" and "1999" ... but the A-side is as brilliant as those two masterpieces.
If the tracking would be changed, there wouldn't be a half masterpiece.

I like the tracking of "Around the world in a day"
Most sides of the prior albums started with an up-tempo song and ended with a ballad .... both sides of "around the world" end with a creepy song!

I have nothing to say about "Rave"
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Reply #16 posted 05/11/04 12:26pm

ufoclub

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For me, Black Album has the best flow...
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Reply #17 posted 05/11/04 12:30pm

JediMaster

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mrdespues said:

Here's what I think:

Albums that flow well:

Dirty Mind
Purple Rain
Musicology
The Rainbow Children
Parade
Diamonds and Pearls
Come
Batman

Albums that flow ok/pretty good:

Sign O the Times
Lovesexy
The Black Album
1999
For You

Albums that don't flow that well at all:

prince
The Gold Experience
Around the World In A Day
Controversy
Prince

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Of course there are others to mention....but those spring to mind first.

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[This message was edited Tue May 11 1:43:44 2004 by mrdespues]


Interesting. I feel that Come and Batman both sound incredibly jumbled, while TGE flows beautifully. I've always argued that Come would have been better received with a slightly altered tracklist.
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Reply #18 posted 05/11/04 12:31pm

JediMaster

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KingSausage said:

NPS and NEWS flow very well....out of my ass and into the toilet!!!! eek


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Reply #19 posted 05/11/04 12:31pm

VinnyM27

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ThataintFunky said:

BorisFishpaw said:

albums that DON'T flow very well...

CONTROVERSY
Do Me Baby should definitely be final track on side 2. Also it seems like it's trying to
mirror the running order of Dirty Mind, but it just doesn't work very well.

AROUND THE WORLD IN A DAY
I think Prince deliberately sequenced this album in an awkward way to try and make it
less accessible. 3rd track in is way too early on the album for all that weirdness that is the
intro to Condition Of The Heart.

RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC
It just seems like a random selection of tracks, no flow at all!

I like the way Controversy is tracked:
Side A is the brilliant side
Side B is the lesser side.
Controversy is a lesser album, stuck between the two masterpieces "Dirty Mind" and "1999" ... but the A-side is as brilliant as those two masterpieces.
If the tracking would be changed, there wouldn't be a half masterpiece.

I like the tracking of "Around the world in a day"
Most sides of the prior albums started with an up-tempo song and ended with a ballad .... both sides of "around the world" end with a creepy song!

I have nothing to say about "Rave"


Since when is "Let's Work" a lesser song? Or even "Controversy" a lesser album. I think it's on the top half of his albums. Possibly above "Musicology". I'd have to think about that.
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Reply #20 posted 05/11/04 3:18pm

BorisFishpaw

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Personally, I'd have sequenced "Controversy" like this...

side 1:
1. CONTROVERSY (7:14)
2. SEXUALITY (4:20)
3. ANNIE CHRISTIAN (4:21)
4. JACK U OFF (3:12)

side 2:
1. LET’S WORK (6:46)
2. PRIVATE JOY (4:24)
4. DO ME BABY (7:47)

The longer version of 'Let's Work' is my own edit of the 12" version, ommiting the part with
all the samples from other tracks. I'd also drop 'Ronnie Talk To Russia", purely because I've
always seen it more as b-side material.
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Reply #21 posted 05/11/04 4:57pm

jtgillia

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I had always changed Prince albums to include outtakes from album sessions and messed around with the order and what not- until one day, I realized, that I had actually preferred the configurations as Prince originally had them in. I then got rid of all those CD-r's, placed the original CDs back in their cases, and put all the outtakes and extra stuff on their own CDs (I also realized that I just couldn't take a bootleg song being surrounded by an official song because the sound quality is just so different).
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Reply #22 posted 05/11/04 5:34pm

andyman91

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KingSausage said:

NPS and NEWS flow very well....out of my ass and into the toilet!!!! eek


Very funny. I actually think those albums are among the better flowing albums, whatever you might think is flowing.
In fact, most of the "lesser" albums flow well--Come, Chaos & Disorder, the two mentioned above.
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Reply #23 posted 05/11/04 10:56pm

ThataintFunky

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VinnyM27 said:

ThataintFunky said:


I like the way Controversy is tracked:
Side A is the brilliant side
Side B is the lesser side.
Controversy is a lesser album, stuck between the two masterpieces "Dirty Mind" and "1999" ... but the A-side is as brilliant as those two masterpieces.
If the tracking would be changed, there wouldn't be a half masterpiece.

I like the tracking of "Around the world in a day"
Most sides of the prior albums started with an up-tempo song and ended with a ballad .... both sides of "around the world" end with a creepy song!

I have nothing to say about "Rave"


Since when is "Let's Work" a lesser song? Or even "Controversy" a lesser album. I think it's on the top half of his albums. Possibly above "Musicology". I'd have to think about that.


A) "Let's Work" is the best song on side B ... even better than "Sexuality" or "Do Me, Baby"
I just said that the A-side as a whole is much better than the B-side .... "Let's Work" is the only essential song on side B. Therefore, I value side A of "Controversy" as a masterpiece, and I value side B as a lesser side in a brilliant era.

B) "Controversy" sure is in the top 10 of greatest albums .... but "Dirty Mind" and "1999" are far more superior to "Controversy" ... and "Controversy" is stuck between them.

C) Is "Controversy" better than "Musicology"? .... of course, don't need a second to think about that ... but "Controversy" is better than everything released after "Sign O the Times".
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Reply #24 posted 05/11/04 11:38pm

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I don't agree that Musicology flows well at all...
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



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-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #25 posted 05/12/04 1:41pm

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Prince's most cohesive albums (or ones that flow as we're putting it) for me would be:

Dirty Mind
Purple Rain
Parade
Batman
Come

I've listened to these albums and when theyve finished I've got a feel that I've heard an album
that works really well as a whole unit ,as opposed to just a selection of great or good songs.
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