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PRINCE IS HOT BUT NOT HOT ENOUGH FOR HIP-HOP! Prince is @ number #3 for his second week but far shy of the number #1 position.
Prince has been on fire in recent weeks and the group D-12 sell a half a million copys in its first week. So i ask a few questions Questions 1. How important is hip-hop? 2. what social message does it has to our young generation? 3. Can Prince ever be as hot as a Usher or a emenim in his future career? 4. Can Musicology realistically go double platinum? 5. Is hip-hop changing the way america thinks? 6. Will hip-hop last and/or how long?  | |
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3. Can Prince ever be as hot as a Usher or a emenim in his future career?
4. Can Musicology realistically go double platinum? I'm just gonna answer these two. No, and no. Prince isn't a hitmaker anymore, I don't think he's really in that mindset anymore of being able to know what the vital younger crowds listen to. The ambition and urgency of youth is behind him, too, and he doesn't swear or act overtly sexual enough for today's standards. He had his time in the charts, and as much as I truly love the guy, that time is over now. [This message was edited Wed May 5 22:08:55 2004 by PurpleKnight] The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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BELL6983 said: Prince is @ number #3 for his second week but far shy of the number #1 position.
Prince has been on fire in recent weeks and the group D-12 sell a half a million copys in its first week. So i ask a few questions Questions 1. How important is hip-hop? 2. what social message does it has to our young generation? 3. Can Prince ever be as hot as a Usher or a emenim in his future career? 4. Can Musicology realistically go double platinum? 5. Is hip-hop changing the way america thinks? 6. Will hip-hop last and/or how long? Hey I appreciate your post and I would like to take a stab at answering it. 1. Hip Hop is very important. The problem is we hear all the shit hip hop. I mean honestly cats like Common and Taleb and Mos Def just don't get anywhere near the play they deserve. They are master wordsmith but some jack ass will write a song about sweat dripping off his balls and boom there you have it. 2. That leads me to this point. Currently the only relevance that Hip Hop has it that is teaches us that Pimps are great. Women are Ho's and put on this earth only to be exploited in the worst way possible by men; and that men are ultimately sexual timebombs that just have to go off anytime and anywhere. 3. Yes he already is. Listen everyone has their time to dominate. M is a good MC and Usher is a fantastic performer. You know he does actually sing in the midst of all that dancing. Say what you want but you have to respect him because none of his peer even try that. I think that Prince's resurgence is reserved only for superstars which he is. I can list to you several people who were hot in the 80's and early 90's who won't get this type of resurgence. TTD, Bobby Brown and any and all leading Heavy Metal bands of that period (with the exeption of Metallica) 4. I believe Musicology will go double platinum. When you factor in the concert sales which already have him at gold plus two strong weeks of sales. Add great word of mouth. I am here in Atlanta and I promise you I get into one conversation a day about that album. The cool thing is people who went to the show are telling their friends about the album and I think that it is spawning sales. Also people like being apart of an event. Musicology is the event album of the summer plain and simple. So I really thinkg Musicology will go double P! 5.Yes. I think the best way for me to answer that is to ask did Hip Hop once change the way America thought? Yes there was much more social activism when Hip Hop was at it's CREATIVE strength. Acts like Public Enemy, KRS-One, Grand Master Flash. These guys were fearless and even got videos played on MTV and BET respectively. Hip Hop today is at its FINANCIAL strength. So that makes it influential in that way. I mean whatever rappers wear from throwback jersey's to furs people go out and buy. Hip Hop is in its Reagan excess years imo. Remember me the Busta Rhymes and P Diddy commercial for Covosier (I don't know how to spell that). 6. Yes Hip Hop is here to stay. People have tried to write the artform off since it was born and it aint going nowhere. Now that is not to say it will always be dominate. I mean LA Heavy Metal is still around it just gets no Airplay. But people still listen and they still perform it so it aint dead. Hip Hop one day will be replaced as the dominant music form but I think we are years away from that. Thanks again for the topic. I apologize if my reply is too long. Peace THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!! | |
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chiltonmusic said: Hey I appreciate your post and I would like to take a stab at answering it. 1. Hip Hop is very important. The problem is we hear all the shit hip hop. I mean honestly cats like Common and Taleb and Mos Def just don't get anywhere near the play they deserve. They are master wordsmith but some jack ass will write a song about sweat dripping off his balls and boom there you have it. 2. That leads me to this point. Currently the only relevance that Hip Hop has it that is teaches us that Pimps are great. Women are Ho's and put on this earth only to be exploited in the worst way possible by men; and that men are ultimately sexual timebombs that just have to go off anytime and anywhere. 3. Yes he already is. Listen everyone has their time to dominate. M is a good MC and Usher is a fantastic performer. You know he does actually sing in the midst of all that dancing. Say what you want but you have to respect him because none of his peer even try that. I think that Prince's resurgence is reserved only for superstars which he is. I can list to you several people who were hot in the 80's and early 90's who won't get this type of resurgence. TTD, Bobby Brown and any and all leading Heavy Metal bands of that period (with the exeption of Metallica) 4. I believe Musicology will go double platinum. When you factor in the concert sales which already have him at gold plus two strong weeks of sales. Add great word of mouth. I am here in Atlanta and I promise you I get into one conversation a day about that album. The cool thing is people who went to the show are telling their friends about the album and I think that it is spawning sales. Also people like being apart of an event. Musicology is the event album of the summer plain and simple. So I really thinkg Musicology will go double P! 5.Yes. I think the best way for me to answer that is to ask did Hip Hop once change the way America thought? Yes there was much more social activism when Hip Hop was at it's CREATIVE strength. Acts like Public Enemy, KRS-One, Grand Master Flash. These guys were fearless and even got videos played on MTV and BET respectively. Hip Hop today is at its FINANCIAL strength. So that makes it influential in that way. I mean whatever rappers wear from throwback jersey's to furs people go out and buy. Hip Hop is in its Reagan excess years imo. Remember me the Busta Rhymes and P Diddy commercial for Covosier (I don't know how to spell that). 6. Yes Hip Hop is here to stay. People have tried to write the artform off since it was born and it aint going nowhere. Now that is not to say it will always be dominate. I mean LA Heavy Metal is still around it just gets no Airplay. But people still listen and they still perform it so it aint dead. Hip Hop one day will be replaced as the dominant music form but I think we are years away from that. Thanks again for the topic. I apologize if my reply is too long. Peace you couldn't have said this in any better way, i co-sign!!! I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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chiltonmusic said: BELL6983 said: Prince is @ number #3 for his second week but far shy of the number #1 position.
Prince has been on fire in recent weeks and the group D-12 sell a half a million copys in its first week. So i ask a few questions Questions 1. How important is hip-hop? 2. what social message does it has to our young generation? 3. Can Prince ever be as hot as a Usher or a emenim in his future career? 4. Can Musicology realistically go double platinum? 5. Is hip-hop changing the way america thinks? 6. Will hip-hop last and/or how long? Hey I appreciate your post and I would like to take a stab at answering it. 1. Hip Hop is very important. The problem is we hear all the shit hip hop. I mean honestly cats like Common and Taleb and Mos Def just don't get anywhere near the play they deserve. They are master wordsmith but some jack ass will write a song about sweat dripping off his balls and boom there you have it. 2. That leads me to this point. Currently the only relevance that Hip Hop has it that is teaches us that Pimps are great. Women are Ho's and put on this earth only to be exploited in the worst way possible by men; and that men are ultimately sexual timebombs that just have to go off anytime and anywhere. 3. Yes he already is. Listen everyone has their time to dominate. M is a good MC and Usher is a fantastic performer. You know he does actually sing in the midst of all that dancing. Say what you want but you have to respect him because none of his peer even try that. I think that Prince's resurgence is reserved only for superstars which he is. I can list to you several people who were hot in the 80's and early 90's who won't get this type of resurgence. TTD, Bobby Brown and any and all leading Heavy Metal bands of that period (with the exeption of Metallica) 4. I believe Musicology will go double platinum. When you factor in the concert sales which already have him at gold plus two strong weeks of sales. Add great word of mouth. I am here in Atlanta and I promise you I get into one conversation a day about that album. The cool thing is people who went to the show are telling their friends about the album and I think that it is spawning sales. Also people like being apart of an event. Musicology is the event album of the summer plain and simple. So I really thinkg Musicology will go double P! 5.Yes. I think the best way for me to answer that is to ask did Hip Hop once change the way America thought? Yes there was much more social activism when Hip Hop was at it's CREATIVE strength. Acts like Public Enemy, KRS-One, Grand Master Flash. These guys were fearless and even got videos played on MTV and BET respectively. Hip Hop today is at its FINANCIAL strength. So that makes it influential in that way. I mean whatever rappers wear from throwback jersey's to furs people go out and buy. Hip Hop is in its Reagan excess years imo. Remember me the Busta Rhymes and P Diddy commercial for Covosier (I don't know how to spell that). 6. Yes Hip Hop is here to stay. People have tried to write the artform off since it was born and it aint going nowhere. Now that is not to say it will always be dominate. I mean LA Heavy Metal is still around it just gets no Airplay. But people still listen and they still perform it so it aint dead. Hip Hop one day will be replaced as the dominant music form but I think we are years away from that. Thanks again for the topic. I apologize if my reply is too long. Peace ----- I could not have said it better. Finally someone see Hip-Hop for what it is. | |
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For this generation, P is not hot....HOWEVER...he's well respected. Even amongst the shitty hip-hop generation who may not necessarily go out and buy his stuff and could care less, he gets much props. Just ask Jay-Z, Puffy, 50 Cent, Ginuwine, and yes even Usher, who is a fantastic performer/entertainer. They all look to Prince for inspiration.
I don't think that that necessarily means that P will never make another hit or won't ever have the chance to go platnum. I still think the best is yet to come for our Little Man. However, I don't think that he'll ever match the success of a Purple Rain or a SOTT, and you know what...I'm completely fine with that, as I think he is. P has already left his mark on hip-hop, R&B, rock, jazz, blues, pop, funk...and even country/gospel/classical music. He has nothing left to prove. Finally, let's be realistic, folks. Even Janet Jackson can't sell anymore. Even MJ and Madonna don't do as well and will probably never match the glory days of their past. Why do we put all this pressure on P to sell like Purple Rain??? It's simply unfair to the man. Let him continue to grow. Allow him the respect that he deserves and don't be too hard on him. ALL artists have their heyday and experience artistic decline. It's the natural order of the music business. [NOTE: Stevie Wonder, Patti LaBelle, Smokey Robinson, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel...these artists don't make huge hits and don't sell as much as they used to. The music is not as inspirational as it once was. Funny how they are rarely bashed like P is.] | |
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