I believe andre is what Prince use to be....Prince seems to be stuck in the past.....he needs to realize the 70's and 80's are over and no matter how much he wants things to be like they use to its not going to happen.....

I use to listen to a Prince album and here at least 1 thing i had never heard before.....

Can u honestly listen to Musicology and say the same thing?

When i heard the love below the first time i got the feeling i use to get with prince albums.....
like what happened between kobe bryant and michael jordan in his last season.....jordan saw that the youn g buck was what he use to be and retired.....

Maybe prince should do the same.....
or move to vegas where everyone plays all there old shit to death nightly.....

miles davis would be so dissappointed with prince today....not being a leader and blazing new trails.....

I'm sorry miles.....your boy prince has let u down

thechronic2 said:

What exactly did you listen to on The Love Below that couldn't be directly referenced to the influence or style of another artist in the past? The Love Below was creative and different... but it was certainly not innovative. Nothing new was done on the album. There is a reason that you hear the name of Prince in 90% of the reviews- it's a Prince-inspired album.

Oreochld32 said:

the problem is prince hasn't made an prince INSPIRED album since sign of the times

andre 3000 isn't 1/100 the artist prince was and IS. puleaze.

prince could shit out andre 3000 albums in his sleep if wanted.

i would really like to see if andre's 25th album is anything near as good as musicology.
will he be makin music do you think?, or maybe he'll be pumpin gas, or pimpin ass.

i don't know. on a deserted island, i'd much rather have musicology with me than the love below.
nuff said.
[This message was edited Sun May 2 12:06:12 2004 by HiinEnkelte]

uh...Hiin...what's a "deserted island?"
[This message was edited Sun May 2 12:09:46 2004 by ninarockets]

oh man, you already changed it...oh well.

suggestion for new thread: "How tall is HiinEnkelte?" the peoples want 2 know...
[This message was edited Sun May 2 12:12:08 2004 by ninarockets]

let's see 9 million sold= genius=kobe bryant
200 thousand= former genius=michael jordan

I like Andre, I like Prince, but there are a HELLUVAH lot more pop music artists that are more innovative than either of them right now.

ninarockets said:

it says 'island'! what's wrong wichyoo boy. can't you read?!

(p.s. thx)

thechronic2 said:

THECRONIC2, MA VAFFANCULO....

thechronic2 said:

By that (dumbass) logic you probably think Nsync, eminem or whatever hyped up big seller is pure divine genius...
Sorry to break it to you but "The Love Below" is overrated crap... Nothing innovative on it and nothing original, Andre3000 doesn't even have his own sound...
Not that "Musicology" is any good or anything but it's still better than the pretentious affectation that is "The Love Below"...

Neversin.

Prince will never be replaced. But as of today Andre 3000 is the cat! Yes I would agree. He's that next dude.

Andre is just getting started. Forget about him being influenced by Prince, Parliament/Funkadelic or whomever. They all copy someone even Prince. Andre sounds totally fresh and is going to get better.

Then somebody will replace Andre eventually. And people will be arguing how that artist ain't shit and Andre 3000 is so much better cause he made his big comeback and they think it will last.

Enjoy this year. I've seen this with too many artist, Prince is not getting better musically.

thechronic2 said:

The problem is, you said The Love Below was innovative...it's not. Prince's albums have never been innovative, for that matter...the most you could say is that you used to listen to a Prince album and hear at least a few things that you'd never heard him do before...and within that context, I'd say The Rainbow Children and N.E.W.S. fit that description.

thechronic2 said:

Brotha gets a perm and now he's the heir to the purple throne? I don't think so. I like Andre 3000. His music is more interesting than most of the shit out today. But right now, I still don't think Andre can hold Prince's Purple jock. How can he be more innovative when he bitting Prince's style?

Welcome2daRevolution said:

and PRINCE is still biting james brown 40 years later.....my mother heard musicology in the car yesterday and she thought it was james brown...what does that tell you?

thechronic2 said:

You negelected to mention that TLB/SB is a 2 disc CD which mean that only 4.5 million have actually been sold and that the album came out last fall. Musicology has been out not even 2 weeks.

It's obvous you start threads with the intention of riling people up with your ridiculous and outrageous views. I don't even think you believe the sh!t you type...

I see how you can think Andre is the heir apparent to Prince.

He certainly has Prince's sensibilities when it comes to lyrics, hair, experimental vocal delivery, metaphor, and the idiosyncratic way he dresses.

However, Andre, despite being able to play some instruments, is not a musician. So, he's lacking in that sense.

But for sure, he is pulling off some bold dissension from the usually stale hip hop fare.
I don't know too many, besides the 80's Prince, who could pull it off without being labeled a 'sissy' or being dissed in this age of hard-edge urban music.

That Andre is embraced and not rejected says a lot about the man's power as a divergent art force. In that sense, he fills a void for me that this current PRince has left wide open.

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[This message was edited Sun May 2 12:38:11 2004 by SynthiaRose]

PurpleCharm said:

what's ridiculous and outrageous is that you can't accept that prince like mike jordan and everyone else isn't as good in his 40's as he was in his 20's.....
for u to try and argue that prince is still innovative today is insanity

thechronic2 said:

Where in my post did I argue with you? I just checked ya...

PurpleCharm said:

true...no one can argue with me and win...i went to michigan

thechronic2 said:

Let's see. James Brown, Prince, and Andre 3000? Like I said, I like the guy. But at this point he doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the other two. IMO. But if 20 years from now people are biting his style, I will gladly stand corrected.

Welcome2daRevolution said:

okay in 20 years i will be calling u on it too

Byron said:

I disagree Prince was totally innovative. He had a synth funk/new wave sex filled style that was unlike anyone else. You could hear the influences of James, Sly, P-Funk, Hendrix etc. but he definitely had his on "style" that sounded totally him and very futuristic.

Every black artist either imitated or copied him at his height.

Thumparello said:

Difference between "unique" and "innovative", though...

I agree that Prince merged new wave and funk extraordinarily well, but then again so did Kraftwerk and Art Of Noise before him (although both were extremely cold feeling in comparison)...

Prince's only real musically innovative moments were with the use of the drum machine...think of "Something In The Water", for example...

His use of synthsizers in place of horns was pretty creative. I think his sound was innovative. The Time, Vanity 6 and the Prince sound of the 80's was some brand new Funk.

Andre 3000 is the innovator of today. Sure he has some Prince influence but his songs still have their own flavor. I have friends argue with me about Prince. Some think he is nothing but an mosh imitator of past artist. It's all up debate.

I enjoy both artist.

I like andre a lot but there is no one out right now to compare to past or present prince. Andre is amongst the best of the current crop but he is nowhere in any of the great's league just yet. I think he is very promising though. I loved his Dracula's Wedding more than I've like anything in a long time. However, that special thing with Prince was that he did so many things so well, nobody does it like that, nobody no matter how good they are. Listen to some of Dracula's wedding and you can hear sloppiness in the mixing that Prince would never have let pass. Even at Prince's worst moments he wouldn't let such amateurish production technique go. Also, Andre is nearing thirty, not that that's bad but most of the greats have already done their genius stuff by his age and if he ain't done it now he may never. I think he's got the moment and he's got fantastic charisma and likeability which are essential to a pop star but he is much more limited than anyone in the 'great' category. I could very well be wrong but I think that the reason he may have such success is because their is just so much garbage out their right now. It's like when Tyson cleaned out the heavyweight division in the 80's, he was never a great fighter only a talented cat who came along at an advantageous time.
Prince is singular, who else could suck in their stomach and pull off this kind of a comeback when even his own most ardent fans which include most of the people on these posts, had written him off no longer than a few months ago. I bet Prince sits around laughing his ass off at all of us. I always felt and still do that Prince could turn it on at will, meaning that when he wants to enrapture a pop audience he can, it's boring to him probably and that could be the reason he's shown such a disdain for it. He's always played fast and loose with his popularity.

I agree with thechronic2. There isnt much at all that is revolutionary in Musicology. There is nothing new there, either musically or lyrically.We've all seen this before and we should stop acting like we havent. I want to feel inspired, empowered, and compelled to listen to a Prince album a million times (like I have several of his classic albums throughout the years) and unfortunately, Musicology will NOT be one of the records that I throw on 1, 5, or 10 years from now. Its just not going to happen.I want to feel as though I'm apart of a revolution when I listen to a Prince record but with Musicology, I felt like I had to go to the bathroom ....and cry because Im starting to think that our beloved genius is all spent.I shouldnt be listening to N.E.R.D.'s FLY OR DIE or OUTKAST's THE LOVE BELOW/SPEAKERBOXX when there is a brand new Prince disc out, but I am. Sad but true.

Yours Truly,
An eternal Prince fan

Didn't Andre do something other than TLB? I realize this is the only "solo" venture, but I figure if you are going to do any comparison, shouldn't all his ventures be put to the test, though I realize it's rap which makes it difficult for some to do a comparison. I like them before TLB/SB venture, and saw a lot of great potential. Though I don't see Andre as the next Prince, I like that he is willing to step out as his own person and test the boundaries, today's music needs that.

Andre 3000 is the Weird Al of R & B... His songs are novelty songs, that contain no true vocal ability; just affectation...

These songs will NOT be played 25 years down the road to anyone other than his grandkids...

Prince is Prince.

Andre is the "new Prince" like New Coke was the, well "new coke"

Okay, point taken. So true, will it be relevant even 5 years from now?