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Thread started 05/04/04 3:55am

blackboab

KAMASUTRA....THE ONLY PRINCE ALBUM THAT HAS TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED ME.

yes, newpower soul wasn't great but it did have some very good moments....the one, come on and wasted kisses. all albums released by prince have always had a few very good numbers and have always been interesting but the kamasutra cd has always been a real disappointment. nothing of any real quality on it. his genius hit a brick wall on this recording confuse
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Reply #1 posted 05/04/04 3:58am

TheFrog

Horrendous, nasty, ugly, painful, embarrassing, mistaken, misguided, depressing, tinny, pooptacular, incomprehensible, indefensible piece of POO !

There, i said it.
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Reply #2 posted 05/04/04 4:32am

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blackboab said:

yes, newpower soul wasn't great but it did have some very good moments....the one, come on and wasted kisses. all albums released by prince have always had a few very good numbers and have always been interesting

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/91607

So 'Newpower Soul' is a Prince album after all?

Make your mind up.

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Reply #3 posted 05/04/04 4:53am

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Is Kamasutra even credited to Prince? I thought it was credited to the NPG Orchestra or something.
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Reply #4 posted 05/04/04 5:02am

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Marrk said:

Is Kamasutra even credited to Prince? I thought it was credited to the NPG Orchestra or something.


That's right.

Call this a Prince album, call Madhouse 8 & 16 Prince albums (which I gladly do).
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Reply #5 posted 05/04/04 5:22am

blackboab

of course "new power soul" is a prince album, he's all over it!!! but he did not want it thought of as an official release, it's a lighthearted party album but it is not an official prince album in the same way that "exodus" or "what time is it?" are not official prince album even though he is all over those recordings. IT IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PRINCE ALBUM wall JESUS H.....
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Reply #6 posted 05/04/04 5:25am

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im talking in the broad sense...he's the main man on kamasutra, even comparing it to jill jones, the family or madhouse, there was good music on those recordings, there ain't none on kamasutra. sad
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Reply #7 posted 05/04/04 5:37am

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The first time you here the "theme" it's like...mmm...not-so-good. The next 2598446596985 times it's, to quote Brando Tha horror ... tha horror!
"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."

My IQ is 139, what's yours?
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Reply #8 posted 05/04/04 6:28am

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Marrk said:

Is Kamasutra even credited to Prince? I thought it was credited to the NPG Orchestra or something.

The performance is by the NPG ORchestra.

The composer and 'primary orchestral arranger' is credited as prince

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Reply #9 posted 05/04/04 9:11am

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Plus: the NPG Orchestra is obviously a synthesizer. I guess it's safe to assume it's Prince playing the keys ...
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Reply #10 posted 05/04/04 9:27am

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Yes folks, he padded out the mail order version of Crystal Ball with... Kamasutra...

Meanwhile, Dream Factory, the 1983 aborted album, the 1989 Rave album, and Roadhouse Garden remain in the vault.

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Reply #11 posted 05/04/04 7:37pm

mrdespues

I actually vaguely like two songs off Kamasutra.

The funky sax one and the one that sounds like Ennio Morricone film music....that's quite nice actually.


































The rest is pure unadulterated rat-infested diarhoea inducing stomach convulsing SHIT.

mad

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Reply #12 posted 05/04/04 7:50pm

Revolution

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I totally agree...I've tried to listen to it twice, and came up short of finishing it both times.

Wasn't this supposed to be his wedding gift to his wife?
If so, no wonder they divorced...
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #13 posted 05/04/04 10:10pm

tritoncin

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sorry, it has grown on me...
I think you're too narrow-minded.
I mean, the man can't be doing Controversy and Purple Rain clones all the time!!

Or maybe you just have ears to funk music?

Who knows
Peace
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Reply #14 posted 05/04/04 11:32pm

XtrueX

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I feel indifferent towards that album.
I don't love it & I don't hate it. It's just there.
I'll say one thing for it though: I've never heard anyone play a pair of scissors on a song before.
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Reply #15 posted 05/05/04 12:00am

Sdldawn

Kamasutra is Prince
NPS is Prince



ITSPRINCE.. I dont give a damn if he even said its not his.. its him. period.


If he said the "symbol" wasnt prince.. some would believe him
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Reply #16 posted 05/05/04 12:08am

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TheFrog said:

Horrendous, nasty, ugly, painful, embarrassing, mistaken, misguided, depressing, tinny, pooptacular, incomprehensible, indefensible piece of POO !

There, i said it.



LMFAO!!!!!

Yup, you said it. I can also tell you from a professional modern/ballet dancer's perspective...it's all those things.

Though I'll agree with MRDESPUES on the two tracks that have a seedling of potential..."Barcelona" and "Cutz"
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Reply #17 posted 05/05/04 12:51am

DOROTHYPARK

The real songs on KAMASUTRA with Eric Leeds on sax (the trax with a beat!) are GREAT! the rest is indeed a filler.

Here and there you can hear Prince using samples of Clare Fisher.
But if he had it done by a real orchestra - conducted by someone else.. Lisa for instance, it would have been far more better.

BRING LISA BACK... i miss her 'warm' orchestration where it is needed!
Wendy IS already back wink

Is there any official lay-out for the Kamasutra CD? cause i bought it the 5-CD compilation, and was just wondering.. Was it actually ever officially released as an album on it's own?
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Reply #18 posted 05/05/04 12:54am

mrdespues

DOROTHYPARK said:

The real songs on KAMASUTRA with Eric Leeds on sax (the trax with a beat!) are GREAT!


that's only ONE track, so as you said, "the rest is filler".
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Reply #19 posted 05/05/04 5:50am

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Ymaginatif said:

Plus: the NPG Orchestra is obviously a synthesizer. I guess it's safe to assume it's Prince playing the keys ...

Yep - there's keyboards on the album ... but aside from input by Prince, Eric Leeds, and the NPG Horns (Hornheadz), there's another 70 or so musicians credited in the liner notes fo contributing additional horns, strings, harps and percussion, as is Clare Fischer as orchestral conductor and Morris Repass as the orchestra's manager.

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Reply #20 posted 05/05/04 5:52am

Zelaira

No KamaSutra is a Romantic piece of music. It didn't disappoint me at all. Beautiful Music for Love.
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Reply #21 posted 05/05/04 6:16am

Ymaginatif

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langebleu said:

Ymaginatif said:

Plus: the NPG Orchestra is obviously a synthesizer. I guess it's safe to assume it's Prince playing the keys ...

Yep - there's keyboards on the album ... but aside from input by Prince, Eric Leeds, and the NPG Horns (Hornheadz), there's another 70 or so musicians credited in the liner notes fo contributing additional horns, strings, harps and percussion, as is Clare Fischer as orchestral conductor and Morris Repass as the orchestra's manager.

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Really ??? I have to listen to it again then !
Where are these credits, btw ? I don't remember getting much info with the CD in the Crystal Ball box ...
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Reply #22 posted 05/05/04 6:16am

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sorry, I don't want to say the same thing twice (so I edited this message) biggrin
[This message was edited Wed May 5 6:17:30 2004 by Ymaginatif]
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Reply #23 posted 05/05/04 3:39pm

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Ymaginatif said:

langebleu said:


Yep - there's keyboards on the album ... but aside from input by Prince, Eric Leeds, and the NPG Horns (Hornheadz), there's another 70 or so musicians credited in the liner notes fo contributing additional horns, strings, harps and percussion, as is Clare Fischer as orchestral conductor and Morris Repass as the orchestra's manager.

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Really ??? I have to listen to it again then !
Where are these credits, btw ? I don't remember getting much info with the CD in the Crystal Ball box ...

It was originally issued as a cassette tape through the 1-800 NEWFUNK mail order operation.

The liner notes accompany this, complete with a load of twaddle about 'Coincidence or Fate?' regarding Prince changing his name to prince, and he and Mayte being predestined soul-mates.

The CD release came as part of the 'Crystal Ball' 5CD deal in the hockey puck-shaped transparent case - which had no liner notes inside. (The 4CD set had a booklet but no copy of Kamasutra).
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Reply #24 posted 05/05/04 4:40pm

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My edition of Crystal Ball didn't come with it, and I never missed it. I listened to an ex-girlfriend's copy once and it nearly put me in a coma.

Okay, okay, we know it's not an official Prince album. (God, with the semantics!) But is it an unofficial one? I could swear I read something around the time it came out that it was something Prince comissioned it to commemorate his wedding with Mayte. I guess I thought it was mainly a Clare Fisher composition. Someone please clear this up for me- did Prince write this album?
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Reply #25 posted 05/05/04 5:48pm

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It's pretty dayuumm terrible. I can't ever bring myself to play it dead
...:...Must I become naked?
No image at all?
Shall I remain upright?
Or get down and crawl?...:...
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Reply #26 posted 05/06/04 1:22pm

Sdldawn

freakebear.. I love ure avator.. I love bears!
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Reply #27 posted 05/06/04 2:06pm

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Sdldawn said:

freakebear.. I love ure avator.. I love bears!



Somehow, this is perhaps the most fitting response to "Kamasutra."

IGNORE IT. It blows!!!!! lol
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry
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Reply #28 posted 05/06/04 3:08pm

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freakebear said:

My edition of Crystal Ball didn't come with it, and I never missed it. I listened to an ex-girlfriend's copy once and it nearly put me in a coma.

Okay, okay, we know it's not an official Prince album. (God, with the semantics!) But is it an unofficial one? I could swear I read something around the time it came out that it was something Prince comissioned it to commemorate his wedding with Mayte. I guess I thought it was mainly a Clare Fisher composition. Someone please clear this up for me- did Prince write this album?

Composer and Primary Orchestrator: prince

Arranger and Orchestral Conductor: Clare Fischer

Musical Transcriptions: Brent Fischer

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I take that broadly to mean that Prince wrote, as in recorded, the music, and his arrangement was credited as primary orchestration. The music was handed over to Clare Fischer who provided further orchestral arrangement. The score was then transcribed by Brent Fischer for performance by the orchestra.

The 'Coincidence or fate?' liner notes to the cassette release appeared on 'The Dawn' website and in the Prince and Mayte's wedding program.
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Reply #29 posted 05/07/04 5:15pm

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Sdldawn said:

freakebear.. I love ure avator.. I love bears!

Thanks! Can't take credit though- grabbed it off the web somewhere.


And many thanks to langebleu for clearing that up.
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