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Thread started 04/30/04 7:27am

TheLodger

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"Call My Name" will be the 2nd single

According to the sticker on my UK Musicology cd
It names the smashes 'Musicology' and 'Call My Name'
Make your own assumptions

For me that's a bad move
It's not single material
'Cinnamon Girl' has the potential to be a HUGE hit!... and a reworked 'Million Days' with less production overkill could be the rocky ballad he always craves


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Reply #1 posted 04/30/04 7:33am

OdysseyMiles

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see what a sticker is supposed to prove. When the songs are mentioned on the cover like that, are those always the singles that are to be released? Is it safe to assume that every time?
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Reply #2 posted 04/30/04 7:37am

Nightcrawler

TheLodger said:

According to the sticker on my UK Musicology cd
It names the smashes 'Musicology' and 'Call My Name'
Make your own assumptions

For me that's a bad move
It's not single material
'Cinnamon Girl' has the potential to be a HUGE hit!... and a reworked 'Million Days' with less production overkill could be the rocky ballad he always craves


~TheLodger~


If you believe in stickers, The Continental would have been a single, too.
See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #3 posted 04/30/04 7:38am

TheLodger

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OdysseyMiles said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see what a sticker is supposed to prove. When the songs are mentioned on the cover like that, are those always the singles that are to be released? Is it safe to assume that every time?


Unfortunately, yes... pretty much
SONY already have the single release schedule penned out, so it makes sense for them and other labels to maximise the usage of the little promo stickers they attach to their products to signify that the lp is already established, albeit through the release of 'great smash singles'

One thing about Prince is that he no idea what makes a great single, or at least he lost that ability to judge so many years ago
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Reply #4 posted 04/30/04 7:39am

TheLodger

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Nightcrawler said:

TheLodger said:

According to the sticker on my UK Musicology cd
It names the smashes 'Musicology' and 'Call My Name'
Make your own assumptions

For me that's a bad move
It's not single material
'Cinnamon Girl' has the potential to be a HUGE hit!... and a reworked 'Million Days' with less production overkill could be the rocky ballad he always craves


~TheLodger~


If you believe in stickers, The Continental would have been a single, too.



I don't believe in them per se, nor god either... but it's more likely (let's say that), that the next single will be as so
I hope the 'sticker' and god have other plans though
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Reply #5 posted 04/30/04 7:46am

whatsurname

y'all are off your head...

Call My Name will be a great release and a big hit....
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Reply #6 posted 04/30/04 7:47am

berko

TheLodger said:

Nightcrawler said:



If you believe in stickers, The Continental would have been a single, too.



I don't believe in them per se, nor god either... but it's more likely (let's say that), that the next single will be as so
I hope the 'sticker' and god have other plans though


Well I went into HMV and VIRGIN (DUBLIN IRELAND) to buy the musicology single and they told me it was pulled so I guess that that ..... so i cant see any futher single if they pull the first.
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Reply #7 posted 04/30/04 7:50am

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Once again it comes to pass that a strong album will be undersold due to poor single release choices. If Prince wants the public to hear his ballads, (or songs of choice)....he should be releasing the more marketable tracks, which will then prompt people to buy the entire album to hear. Poor single choices only dissable the chances of good sales, and therefore music exposure to the masses. He really has a flaw when it comes to releasing tracks. I feel "A Million Days" is worthy of a commercial release. Really, there aren't that many marketable singles on Musicology. I am enjoying the whole work, but it doesn't have singles throughout. Therefore Prince should be releasing the other song apart from the title track that is a potential chart topper. That track is NOT "Call my Name". I think anything to do with Prince and the word 'name' or any subject touching on name issues is an instant public snoozer. After all the positive media, and efforts in promotion, it's a shame to think that people will (possibly) hear "Call my Name" and assume it is representative of what the album offers. The Rainbow Children would have performed so much better if he had released "1+1+1 is 3" as a single. He seems to underestimate the power of a good single these days.
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Reply #8 posted 04/30/04 8:36am

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whatsurname said:

y'all are off your head...

Call My Name will be a great release and a big hit....



lol, ur 'name' is quite appropriate!
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Reply #9 posted 04/30/04 8:38am

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Call My Name is fantastic....I've had to make another "Purple Ballads" CD just to make room for it....It's a great single...Urban radio will dig it...Hell I've already heard it on a "quiet storm" show....Don't sleep on the lil' funky man.
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Reply #10 posted 04/30/04 8:38am

TheLodger

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berko said:

TheLodger said:




I don't believe in them per se, nor god either... but it's more likely (let's say that), that the next single will be as so
I hope the 'sticker' and god have other plans though


Well I went into HMV and VIRGIN (DUBLIN IRELAND) to buy the musicology single and they told me it was pulled so I guess that that ..... so i cant see any futher single if they pull the first.



Well, in that case you may be right!
It was pretty much the same with TRC, no singles to speak off, just LOADS of global promo cd singles for airplay
... and 'The Work' was hardly a 'proper' single release
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Reply #11 posted 04/30/04 8:46am

TheLodger

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batman89 said:

Once again it comes to pass that a strong album will be undersold due to poor single release choices. If Prince wants the public to hear his ballads, (or songs of choice)....he should be releasing the more marketable tracks, which will then prompt people to buy the entire album to hear. Poor single choices only dissable the chances of good sales, and therefore music exposure to the masses. He really has a flaw when it comes to releasing tracks. I feel "A Million Days" is worthy of a commercial release. Really, there aren't that many marketable singles on Musicology. I am enjoying the whole work, but it doesn't have singles throughout. Therefore Prince should be releasing the other song apart from the title track that is a potential chart topper. That track is NOT "Call my Name". I think anything to do with Prince and the word 'name' or any subject touching on name issues is an instant public snoozer. After all the positive media, and efforts in promotion, it's a shame to think that people will (possibly) hear "Call my Name" and assume it is representative of what the album offers. The Rainbow Children would have performed so much better if he had released "1+1+1 is 3" as a single. He seems to underestimate the power of a good single these days.


Give that bat a medal!
I'm in total agreement about both 'A Million Days' and '1+1+1 is 3'
It's as if his ear for commerciality has been deafened by his own sense of what is marketable and what is not
This is not to say that he doesn't make mainstream music still, just that he is so out of touch with what the target audience want to hear!

Let's take another recent lp to case, 'Rave'!
Now TGRES was probably the lamest single on there, it had no chance of grabbing the attention of anyone really
He should have stuck to:
1. So Far, So Pleased
2. Baby Knows
3. Wherever U Go, Whatever U Do (if a 3rd single was needed)

Instead we got TGRES and Man 'O' War as a single promo, fabulous... not
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Reply #12 posted 04/30/04 8:53am

Cloudbuster

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I like Call My Name. smile
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Reply #13 posted 04/30/04 8:59am

TheLodger

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Cloudbuster said:

I like Call My Name. smile


That's fine, but will others rush out to buy it if it's released as a single?
I'm not talkin' about you or I, but the wider general public, those who'll watch the video on MTV... will they say, "hell that must be a GREAT new lp, I must rush out and buy the single, and perhaps the lp later"... after all, that is the MAIN purpose of singles, to promote their parent lp
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Reply #14 posted 04/30/04 9:00am

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TheLodger said:

That's fine, but will others rush out to buy it if it's released as a single?


I doubt it. But then the general public hasn't rushed out to buy a Prince single in 10 years. neutral
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Reply #15 posted 04/30/04 9:08am

TheLodger

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Cloudbuster said:

TheLodger said:

That's fine, but will others rush out to buy it if it's released as a single?


I doubt it. But then the general public hasn't rushed out to buy a Prince single in 10 years. neutral



Exactly, and there's a good reason for that
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Reply #16 posted 04/30/04 9:11am

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OdysseyMiles said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see what a sticker is supposed to prove. When the songs are mentioned on the cover like that, are those always the singles that are to be released? Is it safe to assume that every time?


no, those stickers don't mean anything towards future singles. hell, Outkasts cd mentioned the smash hits Hey Ya and Gettomusic, and I ain't seen a video for Gettomusic yet.
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Reply #17 posted 04/30/04 9:14am

Cloudbuster

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TheLodger said:

Cloudbuster said:

I doubt it. But then the general public hasn't rushed out to buy a Prince single in 10 years. neutral



Exactly, and there's a good reason for that


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Reply #18 posted 04/30/04 9:20am

MightBQueen

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y'all are off your head...

Call My Name will be a great release and a big hit....


indeed. nod
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Reply #19 posted 04/30/04 9:34am

SassyBritches

TheLodger said:

According to the sticker on my UK Musicology cd
It names the smashes 'Musicology' and 'Call My Name'
Make your own assumptions

For me that's a bad move
It's not single material
'Cinnamon Girl' has the potential to be a HUGE hit!... and a reworked 'Million Days' with less production overkill could be the rocky ballad he always craves

i couldn't agree more. call my name could kill the momentum of this record. not that it isn't a great song...i love it, personally. but i'm already a prince fan and expeext that sort of sound from him. if i was a kid listening to pop radio, i'm sure i'd wanna hear upbeat, catchy cinnamon girl rather than ANOTHER soul ballad.
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Reply #20 posted 04/30/04 9:40am

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Cinnamon Girl should be the single. He is gonna fuck it up again. waaaaa
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #21 posted 04/30/04 9:42am

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He can't just pander to R&B radio. He has to get the rock audience back.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #22 posted 04/30/04 9:43am

Handclapsfinga
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2freaky4church1 said:

Cinnamon Girl should be the single. He is gonna fuck it up again. waaaaa



neutral
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Reply #23 posted 04/30/04 9:49am

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Keep in mind everyone , the Musicology tour runs thorgh September so he has already committed to promoting this album for the next 4-5 months minimum. Dont panic thinking the release to radio of Call My Name will be the end all of this album.

Call My Name is a good release ....to R&B radio only...it will go nowhere on Pop

A Million Days is a good release ... to Pop radio only ...it will go nowhere on R&B

and that is how they will be released and marketed eventually . Evidently Sony is going to give Musicology a shot on Pop radio first but I will be surprised if they do not follow that up with A Miilion Days (or Cinnamon Girl).
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Reply #24 posted 04/30/04 9:53am

TheLodger

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dumbass said:

OdysseyMiles said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see what a sticker is supposed to prove. When the songs are mentioned on the cover like that, are those always the singles that are to be released? Is it safe to assume that every time?


no, those stickers don't mean anything towards future singles. hell, Outkasts cd mentioned the smash hits Hey Ya and Gettomusic, and I ain't seen a video for Gettomusic yet.



Maybe so, but 'Hey Ya' WAS a single, so 1 out of 2 ain't bad goin'
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Reply #25 posted 04/30/04 9:56am

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SassyBritches said:

TheLodger said:

According to the sticker on my UK Musicology cd
It names the smashes 'Musicology' and 'Call My Name'
Make your own assumptions

For me that's a bad move
It's not single material
'Cinnamon Girl' has the potential to be a HUGE hit!... and a reworked 'Million Days' with less production overkill could be the rocky ballad he always craves

i couldn't agree more. call my name could kill the momentum of this record. not that it isn't a great song...i love it, personally. but i'm already a prince fan and expeext that sort of sound from him. if i was a kid listening to pop radio, i'm sure i'd wanna hear upbeat, catchy cinnamon girl rather than ANOTHER soul ballad.



Exactly, he needs to cut another lp in the vain of SOTT meets Dirty Mind
Get some guitar in there man
When he does "white rock", he does it oh so well!
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Reply #26 posted 04/30/04 9:56am

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hah! at Prince. Cry little wusssy. lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #27 posted 04/30/04 9:57am

TheLodger

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2freaky4church1 said:

He can't just pander to R&B radio. He has to get the rock audience back.


Yep, see my post above
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Reply #28 posted 04/30/04 9:58am

Handclapsfinga
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Exactly, he needs to cut another lp in the vain of SOTT meets Dirty Mind
Get some guitar in there man
When he does "white rock", he does it oh so well!

"he needs to"...why?
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Reply #29 posted 04/30/04 9:58am

Handclapsfinga
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2freaky4church1 said:

He can't just pander to R&B radio. He has to get the rock audience back.

"he has to"...why?
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